• Some users have recently had their accounts hijacked. It seems that the now defunct EVGA forums might have compromised your password there and seems many are using the same PW here. We would suggest you UPDATE YOUR PASSWORD and TURN ON 2FA for your account here to further secure it. None of the compromised accounts had 2FA turned on.
    Once you have enabled 2FA, your account will be updated soon to show a badge, letting other members know that you use 2FA to protect your account. This should be beneficial for everyone that uses FSFT.

My nForce 780i Experiences

FrgMstr

FrgMstr

Just Plain Mean
Staff member
2FA
Joined
May 18, 1997
Messages
58,135
From the [H] News Page.
Had two new nForce 780i motherboards out on the bench this morning that I have been working with since about 5am. All has not been well. My first 780i board is DOA. Tried three different CPUs, three sets of RAM, and two different video cards in three different slots to no avail. My second has posted and is loading an OS, but will not set to the 1600MHz FSB that is sees the Yorkfield chip specifies. It will only run at 1333. Oddly enough I don’t see where to change this in the bios as the option is grayed out, and my trip through the supplied PDF manual (no paper manual to have in your hand while tweaking) shows BIOS screens that in no way reflect what I am seeing on the motherboard. I have one more 780i board left here to get to, and I will let you know how that goes as well. Obviously when we have figured out the issues we will get into specifics.
Click to expand...

Update: Third 780i board up and running, it is of reference design too, and I do now see where to set the FSB settings. (They have their own page even though they are shown on CPU page as well. No sure why they would not just be all together.) This 780i board did not correctly set the BIOS to default settings for the Yorkfield QX9770 either, but it did easily run the CPU once it was set up properly. This board however locks up in BIOS when I try to open the CDRom boot menu and is not booting easily to load Windows. Quite frankly, I just don’t have these petty issues with Intel chipset motherboards.


Update: NVIDIA just called and let me know that the 780i is NOT VALIDATED for 1600MHz FSB to support QX9770, so the issues I am seeing with it not auto-configuring for the CPU are the way it should be. Our ASUS board, which is DOA, does specifiy 1600MHz FSB Support.
 
It's a damn shame that Nvidia can seem to produce one outstanding video card after another, but then when it comes to Intel motherboard chipsets, their efforts just flat... suck. :confused:

Almost as if there were two different companies named Nvidia.
 
the even number nvidia chipsets seem to do well, ie nf2, nf4, nf6, while the odd numbers dont do too tough. this is across both cpus, of course.
 
"Almost as if there were two different companies named Nvidia."


Technically, there are...

The mobo dept is nowhere near as good as the graphics dept.

Reminds me of my org...
 
Are you running the latest BIOS? Maybe there was a fixed recently released. I dont have this board personally but its worth a shot. Hope you get it running well!
 
Hey NVIDIA, just give us support for SLi on Intel chipsets already. You guys are obviously not doing a very good job in the motherboard department. If you can't get it right, people will begin to hate you and not buy your products. You really don't want to see that happen now do ya?
 
Im not surprised at all. I ran a Nvidia board once and never again.. They really should give up on trying to support Intel CPU's since Intel does an outstanding job with that already.
 
the even number nvidia chipsets seem to do well, ie nf2, nf4, nf6, while the odd numbers dont do too tough. this is across both cpus, of course.
Click to expand...

:p NV-13 should be a motherF**ker, if they stay in the business that long.

I just cannot get over how these companies will risk their brand reputation putting out rushed product with hopes of "fixing" it later. And wth happened to final functional testing ?

re the intel: LOL try to get AHCI working on an XPsp2 board.
 
D4hPr0 said:
Im not surprised at all. I ran a Nvidia board once and never again.. They really should give up on trying to support Intel CPU's since Intel does an outstanding job with that already.
Click to expand...

I have yet to use any Nvidia board since the NF4 but I never had an issue with my NF2, NF3 or NF4 chipset and loved them all :confused:. I'm expecting a 6 series in the mail today so we'll see how that goes.
 
This is why we use nothing but Intel retail motherboards in all the PC's we build at work unless the customer is adamant about SLI or something that requires non-Intel chipsets. Intel boards on the whole are freakishly stable and I can usually have a replacement for a defective board cross shipped to me the next day if one is bad and I don't have to give up a credit card to do so. Say what you want, but Intel has the best partner support in the business.
 
Yeah this 680i will be my last nvidia motherboard; probably last nvidia video card purchase for good- i am going to wait for either intel x48+ the ati solution to work itself out or the all intel solution to emerge b4 my next upgrade. No longer will nvidia get any $ from me period and I hope their company crumbles because of its inadequate testing!
 
not trying to troll or anything but I really think nvidia should have just stuck to doing amd based chipsets. It seams they have had more problems getting their intel based chipsets stable than their amd. Hmmmm soundstorm.
 
Update: NVIDIA just called and let me know that the 780i is NOT VALIDATED for 1600MHz FSB to support QX9770, so the issues I am seeing with it not auto-configuring for the CPU are the way it should be. Our ASUS board, which is DOA, does specifiy 1600MHz FSB Support.
 
Someone's an early riser. 5am?? :eek:

Anyways, cool you have these new boards for testing. They sound kind of crappy though. One of the worst things you can do as a company: Send a product DOA to one of the biggest review websites in the world. Eeeeeeediots :p Guess shit happens though.
 
Regardless after the Quad 45nm not being supported by the 680i mobo... I will no longer support the Nvidia based boards... I will go with an Intel based board...

Cannot believe I spent 200 plus on a mobo that I can't even move to the next quad core processor! LIVID!!! :mad::mad::mad:

EVGA support staff pretty much said FU in their email:

Cut for your enjoyment:

Question (12/12/2007 7:29:52 AM): Answered By Charles G (12/11/2007 11:46:19 PM): David unfortunately there is nothing we can do about making it compatible to the 45nm quad-core CPUs, we did state that it would be compatible with future CPUs and it is with the 45nm duel core CPUs it would just need a BIOS update for that but compatibility is out of our hands at this point for the quads.

Charles EVGA Tech Team

This is not acceptable. Will EVGA be offering a credit if/when we want an upgrade... If I went with Asus or any Non-Nvidia based board I would be fine to run the new 45nm quad cores... something needs to be done or you are going to risk losing a customer for ever! I am extremely unhappy with this situation!

Answered By Nicolas M (12/13/2007 12:34:07 AM): Hi David, The board did not claim it would run 45nm CPUs at the time of your purchase and it was not until recently that it was announced that it would be compatible with the Wolfsdale Duo Core chips through BIOS updates. Unfortunately, it will not be compatible with the quad core CPUs. We do not have any information about upcoming products until the release.

Regards, EVGA Tech

--------------------

Gimme a break! That's like saying well your socket 478 is not valid for the XYZ version of the processor. Its absolute BS and they hosed a large enthusiast market!
Am I missing something here? Core 2 Quad is still what the Yorkfield is called no? It is still a 775 processor is it not?
See pdf http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/GPUCPUCompChart.pdf
Yorfield is Core 2 Extreme see here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115035

Thus if you read their pdf it does include that model! WTF!
 
5 am... holy cow...
But I'm glad someone as reliable as Kyle is doing this! I can't wait for a full blown review of all the problems that lie ahead.
 
Citizen86 said:
Someone's an early riser. 5am?? :eek:

Anyways, cool you have these new boards for testing. They sound kind of crappy though. One of the worst things you can do as a company: Send a product DOA to one of the biggest review websites in the world. Eeeeeeediots :p Guess shit happens though.
Click to expand...

Maybe they're just trying to lower our expectations so when it does hit retail outlets, it will appear not to suck, even though it does.
 
coynatha said:
Maybe they're just trying to lower our expectations so when it does hit retail outlets, it will appear not to suck, even though it does.
Click to expand...

Hah. Or maybe Kyle woke up too early, spilled his 2nd cup of coffee on his brand new Asus board, swore to himself, and wrote up that he tried 3 different CPU's, video cards, etc., but the goddamn thing is DOA?? :eek:

JK kyle, JK :eek:
 
Looks to me like some nvidia hating here........first putting down the Tri-SLI on Wednesday night and now bashing the new 780i boards.....

I'm really disappointed in this first glance at the 780i board......I was hoping then 780 would not have the same rough start as the 680i, but it looks like same-old same old.

It is getting frustrating trying to figure if spending the money on an nvidia based chipset is really worht it, given all the bios updates you have to do before the board is stable, and then not supporting top line CPUs......arrrrgh.:eek:
 
Nvidia doesn't support 1600fsb but the Reference board (Evga?) runs it...Is this on the same page as Corsair 620 not supporting GTX's but in reality it will?

magoo said:
I'm really disappointed in this first glance at the 780i board......I was hoping then 780 would not have the same rough start as the 680i, but it looks like same-old same old.

It is getting frustrating trying to figure if spending the money on an nvidia based chipset is really worht it, given all the bios updates you have to do before the board is stable, and then not supporting top line CPUs......arrrrgh.:eek:
Click to expand...

Agree!
 
Citizen86 said:
Hah. Or maybe Kyle woke up too early, spilled his 2nd cup of coffee on his brand new Asus board, swore to himself, and wrote up that he tried 3 different CPU's, video cards, etc., but the goddamn thing is DOA?? :eek:

JK kyle, JK :eek:
Click to expand...

I think possibly it ended up with some urine on it though. ;) :eek:
 
Blazemore said:
Nvidia doesn't support 1600fsb but the Reference board (Evga?) runs it...Is this on the same page as Corsair 620 not supporting GTX's but in reality it will?
Click to expand...

Well, no official 1600Mhz FSB support so in the world of specifications, I am overclocking the motherboard to run the CPU at stock. Keep in mind as well that the QX9770 has not been launched for sale yet. And from what I gather, Intel is not handing over tons of sample for NVIDIA to test with.
 
Well this is very disappointing, I feel so stupid for buying this 680i, as of now the 780i aint lookin so good, and the 680i I got can't even OC quads! It's the NF-63 one, wish I had of known that before I bought it...
 
Sunin said:
Regardless after the Quad 45nm not being supported by the 680i mobo... I will no longer support the Nvidia based boards... I will go with an Intel based board...

Cannot believe I spent 200 plus on a mobo that I can't even move to the next quad core processor! LIVID!!! :mad::mad::mad:

--------------------

Gimme a break! That's like saying well your socket 478 is not valid for the XYZ version of the processor. Its absolute BS and they hosed a large enthusiast market!
Am I missing something here? Core 2 Quad is still what the Yorkfield is called no? It is still a 775 processor is it not?
See pdf http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/GPUCPUCompChart.pdf
Yorfield is Core 2 Extreme see here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115035

Thus if you read their pdf it does include that model! WTF!
Click to expand...


EVGA can only go by what NVidia tells them. NVidia on the other hand can only go by what Intel tells them, so if somewhere along the line Intel changed something that made NVidia's chipset incompatible, it's not NVidia's or EVGA's fault. Intel is the source point for it all, so to me they are the ones who ought to be blamed for the issue.

Does that make it all better? Nope.

Is that the risk you take in enthusiast hardware? Yep.

I'm running an EVGA 680i board and I've not had one issue with it, some aren't so lucky.

I'm hoping the 780i ends up working out well, but if not, I'll just hang on to my stable 680i for now and wait out a cycle.
 
Oh boy, looks like I'm in for a repeat experience of the 680i SLI chipsets with the 780i SLI. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah I am one of the people that have had multiple 680i failures 3 to be exact.... We are now moving me into a 780i and I have to say this thread scares the shit out of me... :(
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top