I talked to Franz and it looks like ill be getting another 120 evo so i can finaly run water the the hd loop here is a pic of how it fits. it almost like TNs FF case but my rad is a 120evo and the fan is mounted to an evo grill. i ended up having to move the 120 rad that i had to the top of the case because i cant run my sound card and the evo360 at the same time. i may just ditch the sound card and mount up the 360evo and say the hell with it.