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John_Keck

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Arabic and Cyrillic domains have been enabled by ICANN. This will lead to hundreds of millions of people that are unfamiliar with Latin letters being able to go online more easily.
The first complete Cyrillic address is http://президент.рф/, meaning "president.rf" for the office of the president of the Russian federation. While the "http://" part remains in Latin characters, users will not have to type them to reach their destination.
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more easily ?

I highly doubt it..

this is a horrible idea to enable such thing..

imagine what happen when those computer who have no multi-language support, and can't even get the word right to the website...

pretty damn stupid if you ask me.. ICANN must be getting shit load of money to do this..
 
shansoft said:
this is a horrible idea to enable such thing..

imagine what happen when those computer who have no multi-language support, and can't even get the word right to the website...
Not being able to access a website isn't horrible. Imagine not being able to access the web at all.
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What could possibly go wrong..

For me it is working in the forum:
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but not working on the front page:
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shansoft said:
more easily ?

I highly doubt it..

this is a horrible idea to enable such thing..

imagine what happen when those computer who have no multi-language support, and can't even get the word right to the website...

pretty damn stupid if you ask me.. ICANN must be getting shit load of money to do this..
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i'm guessing if you could read a non-latin character language, you'd have it installed on your computer. if you didn't understand... wtf you complaining about? boohoo you won't be able to read some emo russian 13yr boy's blog.
not everything revolves around english.
 
hl3395 said:
i'm guessing if you could read a non-latin character language, you'd have it installed on your computer. if you didn't understand... wtf you complaining about? boohoo you won't be able to read some emo russian 13yr boy's blog.
not everything revolves around english.
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if a web address is in japanese, and I can read them, but the PC doesn't support typing or reading it correctly.
doesn't it mean I am fucked? :rolleyes:
 
This will lead to hundreds of millions of people that are unfamiliar with Latin letters being able to go online more easily.
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It will also make it eaiser for people to spoof webpages and spread malware and viruses.

Who hasn't used non Roman letters to spell things that look like Roman letter words. This is a crazy bad idea IMHO.
 
Wicked. The URL mentioned in the OP is doing what 'hellokeith' mentioned. Also in my URL bar it shows up as: "http://xn--d1abbgf6aiiy.xn--p1ai/"
 
shansoft said:
if a web address is in japanese, and I can read them, but the PC doesn't support typing or reading it correctly.
doesn't it mean I am fucked? :rolleyes:
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Not really, it just means that you should install japanese support on your OS... then you would be able to read it, and even type it.
 
MindTwist said:
Not really, it just means that you should install japanese support on your OS... then you would be able to read it, and even type it.
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what if I am in pub place like library?

which I go there a lot.. :rolleyes:
 
shansoft said:
what if I am in pub place like library?

which I go there a lot.. :rolleyes:
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Then you should probably be asking them to install support for that language, or be doing it yourself. I pretty much doubt noone else can do anything about it, if you want to type in japanese and are using a computer that doesn't support it... But anyway, I doubt that would have anything to do with this news subject.
 
Isn't HTML and any computer code solely in English?

Curious though are the keyboards in the respective languages? Can I get a keyboard and type in UK English as oppose to American English?;)
 
Hopefully this will make it easier to block non English sites. Maybe it will be easier to block spam and phishing sites. Or maybe harder... :confused:
 
necrosis said:
It will also make it eaiser for people to spoof webpages and spread malware and viruses.

Who hasn't used non Roman letters to spell things that look like Roman letter words. This is a crazy bad idea IMHO.
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You are correct, but there is a limitation. Mixing language sets is not supported. So if you want to use Cyrillic characters in the domain name, you can use only Cyrillic characters. Same for the other new supported languages. So the masquerade opportunity will be for strings of characters all in a single language that combined resemble a word or phrase in another language. So it will take some extra creativity on the part of hackers to find matching combinations.
 
From a filtering and security standpoint, I think this is a horribly bad idea. The web has worked just fine with Latin letters.

I wonder how many programs that parse links or handle URLs are not designed for this? Beside the domain redirection, there is plenty of opportunity for new software bugs as well.
 
VA Supremacy said:
Isn't HTML and any computer code solely in English?

Curious though are the keyboards in the respective languages? Can I get a keyboard and type in UK English as oppose to American English?;)
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Yes you can. It has an extra key and a few in different places.
 
necrosis said:
Wicked. The URL mentioned in the OP is doing what 'hellokeith' mentioned. Also in my URL bar it shows up as: "http://xn--d1abbgf6aiiy.xn--p1ai/"
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yep, that's how the DNS handles it (DNS only works w/ latin chars)
 
shansoft said:
if a web address is in japanese, and I can read them, but the PC doesn't support typing or reading it correctly.
doesn't it mean I am fucked? :rolleyes:
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No. It means you can't see the address. Since you're PC doesn't support the characters, and the website would probably mostly be in such characters, you wouldn't be able to read the website anyway.

You could always upgrade your computer to support a language you need to use. That's actually easier than requiring every non English speaker to learn a new language so that you can avoid having to upgrade your computer.
 
darkpaw said:
From a filtering and security standpoint, I think this is a horribly bad idea. The web has worked just fine with Latin letters.

I wonder how many programs that parse links or handle URLs are not designed for this? Beside the domain redirection, there is plenty of opportunity for new software bugs as well.
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So because it took too long to do it should never be done because catching up would be hard?
 
Wow. A surprisingly large amount of butthurt people here.

shansoft said:
more easily ?

I highly doubt it..

this is a horrible idea to enable such thing..

imagine what happen when those computer who have no multi-language support, and can't even get the word right to the website...

pretty damn stupid if you ask me.. ICANN must be getting shit load of money to do this..
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Wait. Do you realize how little sense you are making? If your computer has no multi-language support, you wouldn't even be able to read the website in the first place.
 
This is indeed a horrible idea and all this is going to turn into a mad house. So much for unifying and standardizing the domain names. Not that there's even a need for multi-language domain names anyway.
 
necrosis said:
in my URL bar it shows up as: "http://xn--d1abbgf6aiiy.xn--p1ai/"
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explanation:
A domain name consists of a series of "labels" (separated by "dots"). The ASCII form of an IDN label is termed an "A-label". All operations defined in the DNS protocol use A-labels exclusively. The Unicode form, which a user expects to be displayed, is termed a "U-label". The difference may be illustrated with the Hindi word for "test" -- परीका -- appearing here as a U-label would (in the Devanagari script). A special form of "ASCII compatible encoding" (abbreviated ACE) is applied to this to produce the corresponding A-label: xn--11b5bs1di.
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zkostik said:
This is indeed a horrible idea and all this is going to turn into a mad house. So much for unifying and standardizing the domain names. Not that there's even a need for multi-language domain names anyway.
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This is just a small layer of icing on the IPV6 cake that is baking.
 
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