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Jim Williams, the MPAA's chief technology officer and senior vice president, says internet service providers need to filter out pirated material.

Jim Williams, the MPAA's chief technology officer and senior vice president, said on Thursday that it's in the best interests of Internet providers to sift through data traveling across their networks and interrupt transmissions that violate copyright law. "Much of the Internet is being clogged up with stolen goods," Williams said at a technology policy conference here.
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I agree, but don’t stop there! Every person leaving the grocery store should be strip searched for stolen items. If you have P2P software installed on your PC…automatic jail time. If you watched the trailer for a movie, you should have to pay for the footage you just watched, regardless whether or not you actually go to the movie. I’m sorry….was I ranting?
 
I guess he doesn't understand how the interweb works. How would the ISP differentiate what is legal and what isn't? They can't. Comcast tried doing it and look what happened.
 
the MPAA/RIAA (because they're in cahoots too!) needs to have a big tall steaming cup of STFU.

Anyone want to take bets on when they become a government agency? I mean they've lobbied to have laws change to their favor, why stop there.
 
To monitor every little packet going in and out, to see if it is legal or not?

effin amazing. Talk about MICRO Managment...

Hell when all that MICRO managing going on, you will end up SLOWING the net down cause your constanly watching everything that goes in and out..
 
Damn interwebs and its small tubes.
We will need some digital drain-o to deal with this clog if this keeps up.
 
I just can't see this working for them. With everything encrypted, what are they going to do then? Block encrypted traffic? Good luck with that.
 
Of cours the MPAA wants somone else to do their job.....
 
How would it be done though? Wouldn't the file sharing programs just start using encryption? You couldn't block all encrypted traffic since there are tons of legitimate encrypted traffic going over the net all the time (heck, almost any time you even log into a website).

Not like they can block any traffic that the ISP doesn't recognize because that would break things like online games that all transfer information in different ways. The MPAA talks like this is all just a matter of the ISP's being willing to do it, and completely ignores that ISP's would have to spend millions (maybe even billions) to buy all the equipment needed to analyze every packet of data crossing their networks all over the world. Then it could all be undone by one person finding a way around whatever hardware the ISP's deploy. What if the processing power of the hardware wasn't sufficient to process any kind of fix they come up with to block the workaround? ISP's just scrape all the hardware, throw it in a big pile in China and volunteer to pay for all new, faster, more capable, equipment?
 
El oh effing el.

Let's see them implement billions of dollars of hardware to do this and cost everyone assloads of money and slow down the efficiency of the intarwebs...... will this hardware also have the capability of breaking hundreds of thousands of encrypted keys instantaneously? Oh MPAA... you don't want this battle :)
 
I thought we where talking about the MPAA wanting to have all ISP filter, not some peoples issue with a president.. :rolleyes:


It amazes me that, people always need to blame the president. Funny how you guys never blame congress.

Anyways back on topic please.
 
Steve said:
Jim Williams, the MPAA's chief technology officer and senior vice president, says internet service providers need to filter out pirated material.

I agree, but don’t stop there! Every person leaving the grocery store should be strip searched for stolen items. If you have P2P software installed on your PC…automatic jail time. If you watched the trailer for a movie, you should have to pay for the footage you just watched, regardless whether or not you actually go to the movie. I’m sorry….was I ranting?
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No Steve, no. They need to do a very good job at filtering ALL MPAA related traffic. It would relieve the BW headache and get rid of all the MPAA crap at the same time.
 
Dew said:
No Steve, no. They need to do a very good job at filtering ALL MPAA related traffic. It would relieve the BW headache and get rid of all the MPAA crap at the same time.
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Oh so /signed
 
What? We should suffer with terrible and expensive internet speed just so a middle man with a poor business model can survive a little longer?
 
This is not realistically possible, I don't know who's the technology adviser for these people but I have a feeling that either such a person doesn't exist, or is some tramp that wanderd off the street and in to their office looking for his alien mind ray protection hat and got dragged into the whole mess.

Most warez is distributed using bit torrent which not only splits the entire download into thousands of chunks but most of the time the content is compressed before hand, on top of that a lot of the time the packets are encrypted, and this is BEFORE people make an effort to block such connection monitoring.

The analogy about searching people leaving stores is a good one, not only because it's so absurd it's laughable, but also demonstraits the core problem with doing so, imagine the man power needed to do this for all stores 24x7

Why are these people so utterly retarded?
 
the-one1 said:
I guess he doesn't understand how the interweb works. How would the ISP differentiate what is legal and what isn't? They can't. Comcast tried doing it and look what happened.
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What happened to Comcast? Were they forced to stop their asinine filtering?! :O

I want the MPAA and the RIAA to just GO AWAY and be gone, then, I'll start buying music and movies again :)
 
BREAKING NEWS FLASH: MPAA AND RIAA WANTS THEIR CAKE, AND TO EAT IT TOO.

MORE ON THIS AT 11.
 
Anyhow, to keep this on topic...

I dont even see how this is technically feasable on such a large scale. How to they expect to differentiate between copywrited and non-copywrited material? Just not going to happen. They are just blowing steam up the ass of the technically uneducated in an attempt to scare them. Just another example of some clueless exec trying to act like he/she knows what their talking about.
 
Speaking of stealing,when is the MPAA going to pay me back all the money I wasted on their god awful movies?:mad:
 
Personally, I think this is a fantastic idea!

Now, ISPs can start to employ additional manpower to monitor every single packet traversing their networks. The exciting part is that the additional manpower will increase our service costs! How awesome is that?

.... or maybe, just maybe, the MPAA can do something useful for once. I've got an idea, how about they do something that will require movie theaters to do something about the problem with cell phones and people talking during movies. Maybe they can actually threaten to kick these people out?

Just a thought (and one from a huge movie buff). It costs too damn much to see a movie in a theater to have to deal with people that insist on talking (on the phone or to each other).
 
ZenDragon said:
Riiiight, hahahaha.
You got me on that one! lol

Are you done?
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Yeah I am actually, I'm not here to try and continue towards a flame war as you appear to be.
Try continuing on with your later post and getting back on the topic.
 
Why do I mentally liken this request to Bush asking Bin Laden to politely turn himself in? Or the PRC asking nicely asking Taiwan to recognize them as rightful government of China?

Why does anyone even care what the MPAA has to say when they don't have their lawyers backing them up?
 
Even un-encrypted. The ISp would have to let you completely download the entire "copywrited" work then a human at the isp would determine if its copywrited. but by then you already have it.

Encryption just makes it impossible.

Won't happen
 
Unoid said:
Even un-encrypted. The ISp would have to let you completely download the entire "copywrited" work then a human at the isp would determine if its copywrited. but by then you already have it.

Encryption just makes it impossible.

Won't happen
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/signed
 
Does anyone here read User Friendly? Today's is especially fitting.

I wonder if the RI/MPAA will ever admit that they really can't do shit. I mean, look at the war on drugs. That's a legitimate public problem, that has a lot of the publics backing to end, and we still don't seem to have made a lot of progress. (That may have been a stretch, in which case I took a page from the MPAA's handbook!)
 
Jesus, the internet sure is getting clogged with retarded forum arguements. Maybe we should have ISPs filter their traffic for futility.
 
Never will happen. Encryption, only reason necessary. It is obviously a BS scare tactic, you can't sell your music online without encryption, realistically. Oh wait, I forgot, we are all supposed to buy outrageously priced dated media like CDs and DVDs, my bad. :)
 
hmm... freedom of speech... we need to be more communist and take that away too.

loved your rant steve=)
 
Oh this is a great idea, I'm sure every ISP just can't wait to be responsible for the information going through their service.
"Much of the Internet is being clogged up with stolen goods," Williams said at a technology policy conference here. "Basically you have a bunch of free riders who are hogging the bandwidth (and taking) it away from legitimate consumers."
lol... I don't even know where to start with that statement.
 
Ok, first off, this will never happen. Packet sniffing is considered a breech of privacy. Port filtering, though miff's off some customers is ok because incoming data is not peeked at, the port is just blocked. Besides, even a small ISP would have a hell of a time sorting all the packets of info that goes out and comes in from their customers. If they tried to filter out all of it, our net access would be slower than 56k. Plus, how can they tell that its pirated? Names? Encryption? Please, all that can be changed.

In other words, as others have stated, this guy is an idiot. Plain and simple.
 
they may want it but the fcc said no it not an isp's business to help out another industry where they do not get one red cent from even comcast is dropping its p2p blocking rules what the guy said is pointless
 
ISPs don't the content and under the DMCA their not to held accountable, So the MPAA/RIAA will get no where fast, As they've found with Comcast, Verizon, etc. :p :)
 
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