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More Swiftech Cheapness

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scwam said:
They should raise the minimum working age in Macau to 6. Maybe we would get blocks that at least look better. Asians get better hand dexterity after they've had a few thousand hours of writing their characters.

What is this racist crap ? This has no place in a discussion about SWIFTECH'S quality control and standards. You should get a banning for saying something like that.
 
i knew Bill would show up sooner or later. Thanks Bill for gracing us with your presence and insults once again! Since you believe that all of us here at [H] are "idiots" why dont you just stay over at Procooling even though you piss off most of them too...
 
like an idiot, you fuss about the source - and ignore the content
ignore me (if you are not an idiot, what is the point in responding ?)

address the issue
 
I actually am impressed with Swiftech which is why I've chosen to load my system with their parts. Sure the inside of the Apogee may not look as pretty as the rest of it, but why does it need to?

It is an effective design that does it's job well.

I think it has great asthetics without dominating your case, actually I would prefer a less flashy mounting plate but I know you can't sell anything today without it being "blinged up".

There were no loose shavings in my block, and as for the rough cuts around the edges of the pins they do nothing to hamper the performance of the block, or endanger the life of your system. They are an acceptable cost cutting measure. My first block cost almost twice as much as the apogee.

It also seems to be the only block on the market without a cheap clear acryllic top that will age and crack.
 
BillA said:
like an idiot, you fuss about the source - and ignore the content
ignore me (if you are not an idiot, what is the point in responding ?)

address the issue
I read your link. You think Gabe is a lying pig huh? Have you met gabe? talked to him? Can you show where he has lied? I agree with you that this "quality" thing is overblown but what is the need to call everyone an idiot? Just stick with the substance and leave out the insults...you will sound more convincing.
 
12 Axes said:
I actually am impressed with Swiftech which is why I've chosen to load my system with their parts. Sure the inside of the Apogee may not look as pretty as the rest of it, but why does it need to?

It is an effective design that does it's job well.

I think it has great asthetics without dominating your case, actually I would prefer a less flashy mounting plate but I know you can't sell anything today without it being "blinged up".

There were no loose shavings in my block, and as for the rough cuts around the edges of the pins they do nothing to hamper the performance of the block, or endanger the life of your system. They are an acceptable cost cutting measure. My first block cost almost twice as much as the apogee.

It also seems to be the only block on the market without a cheap clear acryllic top that will age and crack.

Good post...they fixed the "shavings" problem for the most part. I have yet to see someone show me shavings from an mcw60...even if you do, I would like to see if 2-3 times before I find it to be a problem...the apogee had this but was fixed fairly quickly.
 
scwam said:
They should raise the minimum working age in Macau to 6. Maybe we would get blocks that at least look better. Asians get better hand dexterity after they've had a few thousand hours of writing their characters.

What an idiotic comment.
 
Steeeeve said:
I read your link. You think Gabe is a lying pig huh? Have you met gabe? talked to him? Can you show where he has lied? I agree with you that this "quality" thing is overblown but what is the need to call everyone an idiot? Just stick with the substance and leave out the insults...you will sound more convincing.
I was the VP Engn and own 1.6M shares of (worthless) stock
other questions ?
 
Bill, I agree with a lot of what you have to say and I can completely see where you get your views of Swiftech from, but if you left out the insults and people would take you much more seriously :cool:
 
pleeeze, I post here only for fun
those who do not know me can go elsewhere to learn

and this is a REALLY trashy thread eh ?, no way I could lower it

those who bash the Chinese do not know them
 
Steeeeve said:
Good post...they fixed the "shavings" problem for the most part. I have yet to see someone show me shavings from an mcw60...even if you do, I would like to see if 2-3 times before I find it to be a problem...the apogee had this but was fixed fairly quickly.
mione does not have shavings inside of it. I just opened it and it seemed clean. There are some broken pins at the edges, but those are the really small ones.
 
Steeeeve said:
I read your link. You think Gabe is a lying pig huh? Have you met gabe? talked to him? Can you show where he has lied? I agree with you that this "quality" thing is overblown but what is the need to call everyone an idiot? Just stick with the substance and leave out the insults...you will sound more convincing.

After reading this post the vast knowledge here comes forth.Unfortunately someone comes along and proves Bill's point gawd I hate that.
 
Ok everybody needs to calm down. This turned from a complaints about the MCW60 to bashing swiftech then to foreign QC. Lets not start any racist things here.

BillA said:
pleeeze, I post here only for fun

As the old saying goes, If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all.


As far as this post goes, what are other peoples opinions on the MCW60(primarily)/MCW30/Apogee since those three components were swiftechs first at foreign QC. Lets not bash country's workers cuase their just doing their job. If swiftech really wanted quality, they would have kept the parts made in america which is what they were/are doing. Everyone just needs to chill before this lovely :rolleyes: thread gets locked.
 
Bill's a bit harsh but im glad to hear his opinion, especially since he used to be one of the main guys over there at Swiftech. The main point is appears to be that we are used to quality products with high QC. It dont matter where these blocks are made from, all in all its about the QC. Some places overseas have better QC than the states and vice versa. So far the MCW 60 and Apogee still dont seem up to par with previous blocks from Swiftech.
 
DangerIsGo said:
Ok everybody needs to calm down. This turned from a complaints about the MCW60 to bashing swiftech then to foreign QC. Lets not start any racist things here.



As the old saying goes, If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all.


As far as this post goes, what are other peoples opinions on the MCW60(primarily)/MCW30/Apogee since those three components were swiftechs first at foreign QC. Lets not bash country's workers cuase their just doing their job. If swiftech really wanted quality, they would have kept the parts made in america which is what they were/are doing. Everyone just needs to chill before this lovely :rolleyes: thread gets locked.
learn to read before posting
it is the parts made is the US for Swiftech that their non-existant QC failed to detect/correct

no QC related problems with the Chinese parts
the source of components has no necessary bearing on their 'quality'

"If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all."
???? bullshit
gonna ban all posters with a problem ?

I will desist as I think my point is understood by most
have at it
 
BillA said:
I was the VP Engn and own 1.6M shares of (worthless) stock
other questions ?
Now you have even less credibility...you got canned or left and now you are mad at Gabe. Is that an accurate statement (and it wasn't meant to take a shot at you). Also, can you give some examples of "lies"?

Your story checks out by the way

Swiftnets.com said:
2003: William Adams joins Swiftech as VP engineering, and develops a comprehensive testing facility unmatched in the industry

I also wonder about your 7% ownership in this seemingly worthless stock. Secondly, why hasn't Swiftech filed with the SEC? Are they not publically traded or do there profits stink that badly?
 
BillA is a millionaire!

That is if he could find someone who wanted 1.6M shares in Swiftech at the going rate of 0.67 a share.
 
idiots are unable to master google
even the ignorant can learn (unless they are stupid)

post like a fool and you will be so treated
not you E354
 
Bill, you bring nothing but insults and a bad attitude. In fact i dont recall ever reading a post that you made here or at Procooling that wasnt adversarial in some way. If you only post here for "fun" aka insulting others, then dont.
 
read the link above
ignorance and prejudice is preferable to my 'bad attitude' ?

people like you have made the H into what it is today
do stay and inoculate more kiddies to yap w/o a fact
or cut the crap and get real

'your' forum, your choice (by your actions); presently you are working on killing the messenger

what did you do to improve this thread ?
 
Budwise said:
i dont recall ever reading a post that you made here or at Procooling that wasnt adversarial in some way.
well then you do far too much typing, and not enough reading
 
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