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Didn't AMD themselves confirm this a long time ago?AMD may indeed be preparing 20nm GPUs for 2015.
You realize that the GPU manufacturers hands are tied with regards to process node availability, right? Neither AMD nor NVIDIA own a fab, so they have to rely on what TSMC and GloFo make available, as well as compete with other vendors for production slots.If the next cards AMD rolls out aren't 20nm, they're losing me as a customer. End of story.
All of this bantering back and forth from the rumor mill isn't helping the situation.
Didn't AMD themselves confirm this a long time ago?
"20nm in 2015" could mean 1 year from today. Obviously they're preparing 20nm for that time frame.
Sure, but if AMD puts out another 28nm series of cards it means Nvidia will be beating them to the punch. Unless you think AMD will launch the 300 series as 28nm, and then another 300/400 refresh on 20nm *before* Nvidia does anything?You realize that the GPU manufacturers hands are tied with regards to process node availability, right? Neither AMD nor NVIDIA own a fab, so they have to rely on what TSMC and GloFo make available, as well as compete with other vendors for production slots.
If the next cards AMD rolls out aren't 20nm, they're losing me as a customer. End of story.
All of this bantering back and forth from the rumor mill isn't helping the situation.
Didn't AMD themselves confirm this a long time ago?
"20nm in 2015" could mean 1 year from today. Obviously they're preparing 20nm for that time frame.
I think people get too hung up on the knobs and bolts... Really: if it runs my games faster and doesn't turn my room into a sauna, I'm happy! I don't care if it's made on 60nm, if it beats out the old tech, what does it matter?
The reason to rush out the 6 mo old tech is so hopefully I can have the performance of a 290x, the power usage of a 270x, and it will only be 6.7 in long. I am starting to get tired of these super long power hungry graphic cards just so we can have some great graphics. You would think that with shrinking die sizes they could start implementing some serious power savings.
The reason to rush out the 6 mo old tech is so hopefully I can have the performance of a 290x, the power usage of a 270x, and it will only be 6.7 in long. I am starting to get tired of these super long power hungry graphic cards just so we can have some great graphics. You would think that with shrinking die sizes they could start implementing some serious power savings.
The reason to rush out the 6 mo old tech is so hopefully I can have the performance of a 290x, the power usage of a 270x, and it will only be 6.7 in long. I am starting to get tired of these super long power hungry graphic cards just so we can have some great graphics. You would think that with shrinking die sizes they could start implementing some serious power savings.
My question is what are the limits of chip size and will density go up?
Hawaii is extremely dense, but i want more.
http://wccftech.com/amd-taped-radeo...loyee-lists-development-300w-25d-hbm-gpu-soc/
The Radeon R9 380X: World's first 300w 2.5D SOC using stacked die High Bandwidth Memory and silicon interposer.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8874/amd-executive-shakeup-byrne-laforce-and-naik-leave-amd
"All told, 3 AMD executives are leaving the company today: GM of Computing and Graphics Business Group, John Byrne; Chief Marketing Officer, Colette LaForce; and Chief Strategy Officer, Raj Naik."
Something is definitely going on over there.
If the next cards AMD rolls out aren't 20nm, they're losing me as a customer. End of story.
All of this bantering back and forth from the rumor mill isn't helping the situation.
Didn't AMD themselves confirm this a long time ago?
"20nm in 2015" could mean 1 year from today. Obviously they're preparing 20nm for that time frame.
http://wccftech.com/amd-taped-radeo...loyee-lists-development-300w-25d-hbm-gpu-soc/
The Radeon R9 380X: World's first 300w 2.5D SOC using stacked die High Bandwidth Memory and silicon interposer.
Is that even something to brag about?
I thought they proposed LESS power consumption with the new chips.
Some people are going to need separate power supplies.
Is that even something to brag about?
I thought they proposed LESS power consumption with the new chips.
Some people are going to need separate power supplies.
well, if it's 2x as fast as a 290x, then 300W wouldn't bother many people.
Is that even something to brag about?
Separate power supplies for a 300w TDP?Some people are going to need separate power supplies.
If true, technically yes. But I doubt it is true, except for maybe a halo card with the hybrid cooler.
Remember, not all the TDP is from the GPU chip itself all the subsystems and power filters use power as well.
Separate power supplies for a 300w TDP?
Remember Fermi? Remember Hawaii? Remember every dual GPU card ever made?
Wasn't there a Voodoo 5000 or something like that , towards the end of the 3dfx line , that had an external connector for power coming directly from an AC adapter as at the time power supplies weren't really ramped up for that kind of wattage ?
Anyway even as a member of team green for years I have been on team red with the 9700/9800 series. I'd love to see ATI come out swinging with something more powerful than Nvidia , not just on par for cheaper or whatever , to force Nvidia to counter and speed things up also.
Just better all around when both sides are one upping each other more frequently.
That's why case fans and watercooling were invented.
lol seriously. People have become too babied these days to remember what we used to put up with in days of old. I mean god forbid we hear the slight whisper of a fan under constant full load for hours on end, or someone call the fire department if a chip designed for 98-105C runs hotter than 70C at any time, much less reaches 80C. Suddenly it's like the world is ending.
If it can run off 2 six pin headers, I'll buy. Otherwise I'll wait till it's a little more efficient.