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Microsoft XNA.... OMG!!!!

Anyone who makes blind decisions based on loyalty to a brand and doesn't have all the facts probably wastes alot of money.

Companies do not deserve loyalty. I'd wait until the benchmarks are in and go from there.
 
Originally posted by gb25
And the exceptionally more impressive Unreal3 engine was being showcased on the next gen ati hardware as well.
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Taken from Hardocp.com:
The gang at Pop Culture Shock confirmed the Unreal 3 demo was running on the NV40 at the Game Developers Conference (GDC). This is certainly of interest to those people planning on upgrading to the NV40 when it is released. I am surprised that no shaky-cam video of the Unreal 3.0 demo has hit the net yet.

Naturally, a current generation card wouldn't be able to show the effects of such an engine, and for that task, the NV40 was used. Upon entering the room of the showing, you couldn't help but see the sign nVidia had boasting that the technology being demoed was running on future generation nVidia technology. We have confirmed with nVidia that Unreal 3 was indeed running on the NV40 to be launched April 13.


Care to comment gb25?
 
Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Taken from Hardocp.com:
The gang at Pop Culture Shock confirmed the Unreal 3 demo was running on the NV40 at the Game Developers Conference (GDC). This is certainly of interest to those people planning on upgrading to the NV40 when it is released. I am surprised that no shaky-cam video of the Unreal 3.0 demo has hit the net yet.

Naturally, a current generation card wouldn't be able to show the effects of such an engine, and for that task, the NV40 was used. Upon entering the room of the showing, you couldn't help but see the sign nVidia had boasting that the technology being demoed was running on future generation nVidia technology. We have confirmed with nVidia that Unreal 3 was indeed running on the NV40 to be launched April 13.


Care to comment gb25?
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And in the next room over the same demo was being shown on the R420. This does not prove anything.
 
MAN! I saw those demos and nearly wet myself!


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....well, ok...not really. Looked good and all...but I don't think it's anything that can't be accomplished on today's hardware.

Although, they should have had that car slam into that dinosaur at 320Kph and make a bloody mess. Blood, spit, teeth, and ass flying all over...you know....the stuff good games are made of :)
 
That XNA demo was dull. I don't see what's so much more grand about it than DirectX, for all I can tell those videos could be prerendered.
 
I saw this over at Beyond3d as well..

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11124&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

When visiting Epics meeting room at GDC I got the chance to see their new engine on NV40 and R420.

It looked like they were showing NV40 at 640x480 and it was very choppy with very low detail.

I was very impressed with R420 as it was obviously running with a much higher framerate and at 1024x768 or higher. The details in the models was much higher and it was very smooth. The only issue I notice were some minor artifacts which Epic put down to 24-bit FP.

It was very cool to see both parts but the R420 was by far the more impressive of the two. Epic claimed they are both equal in performance but would not show me their FPS counter. I believe this was NV marketing dollars speaking because I spent 20 minutes viewing each showing and the delta was clearly evident.

Anyone else here get the chance to see both? As far as I could tell ATI is gonna rule!!!

The ATI card looked like a 9800XT using the exact same board layout. I did not see the NVidia card but rumors around the show claimed it has two power connections, requires a 500W power supply and is extremely hot. Maybe NV should bundle a power supply with the board, instead of Doom3

I can't wait to get a chance to play with an R423 and PCI Express. Hopefully ATI will send boards out to developers soon!!!

ATI was also promoting hardware Normal Map Compression. What I heard sounded extremely cool and simple to use. No specs yet though.
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This is why I stay out of the Video Card Forum.
*runs back to Overclocking&Cooling, Strictly AMD, and Cool Cases*
 
yes there are no AMD fanboys in the strictly AMD forum, nope, none, none at all.:rolleyes:
 
Mark can be the queen of fucking england. If all he has to say 99% of the time is "This is bullshit" I'm not going to expect much from him and I'm only taking what he says with a grain of salt.
 
Originally posted by mcryptic
yes there are no AMD fanboys in the strictly AMD forum, nope, none, none at all.:rolleyes:
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There are always dumbasses in all forums. I just find that there are much more in the Video Card forum. I could probably post a XGI thread in here and it would turn into ATI vs. nVidia.
 
Originally posted by emorphien
Mark can be the queen of fucking england. If all he has to say 99% of the time is "This is bullshit" I'm not going to expect much from him and I'm only taking what he says with a grain of salt.
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You can trust Mark Rein, he hates rumors, and trys to get truthful information out as quick as possible. He is very involved in trying to hear the voice from us gamers.
 
Originally posted by creedAMD
You can trust Mark Rein, he hates rumors, and trys to get truthful information out as quick as possible. He is very involved in trying to hear the voice from us gamers.
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To me, assuming the guy was telling the truth, when he said the demos he saw ran better on the ATI than the nVidia system, that is his truth. Not necessarily a rumor, but also not the whole story (whether he was lying is another issue).

If mark cannot respond to that in any manner other than that of a 12 yr old, he's not earning my trust. I expect to see better than that, more information, more objectivity, and a little maturity before I'm going to take someone seriously. You may have other experiences with what he says, but I don't, and until I do I'm not going to take much stock in what he said (or the guy he was arguing with).
 
mark probably can 't say anything about the cards because he's under a NDA. He probably can't publicly state that the cards performed equally.
 
Originally posted by angrybusdriver
Uh, I hate to break it to you, but nVidia has fanboys too.
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Yaa, but being a nVidia fanboy nowdays is harder. Kinda like being a Minnesota Vikings fan. Only ones left are the diehards.

Budwieser should make a beer ad for them..."Hats off to you Mr. nVidia GeForce Fanboy....without you, there would be no misinformation and poor purchasing choices.....you buy junk when no-one would even consider buying one if it was free after rebate..."

Hmm...looks over post and realizes himself is a fanboy....DOH....:)

Bottom line is that I don't care what the hell the next gen cards can do cause I'm keeping my G9700-ProM alot longer than just a year and a half. Sorry, but forking out $400 for a video card once a year just isn't my cup of tea, espeicially since it will still work just fine for any games coming up, unlike the FX's....RimShot :D
 
Originally posted by Stanley Pain
Hrrm, this is a bit disturbing.

MS "makes" one of the standards for an API (DX).

Now if we start seeing "partnerships" here, this might lead to a split in standards. Nvidia going one way ATI going another. I dunno, the outcome could get messy.

Power to ATI for landing a deal like that though. I guess MS likes ATI for following DX specs with there R3XX series.

-- just watched the videos. Pretty impressive if that's all real time. Perhaps r4xx series has hardware TruForm now?
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You do know that ATI and MS wrote most of the books on how to effectively use shaders and DX8-9 effects right?

He is very involved in trying to hear the voice from us gamers
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Of course he does, just like how car manufacturers like to hear from people who are giving them money or are going to give them money in exchange for some sort of car
 
Nvidia Vs. ATI, its like a never ending story :D

Those videos are sweet and I am just in aww :eek:

As long as either one of these cards can make my system work, I don't really care about anything else, hehe. Once the next generation of video cards are out, we will know how good they are anyway.

But damn, those videos still look sweet and that lady too ;)

-rahul
 
Originally posted by sicde@th
Nvidia Vs. ATI, its like a never ending story :D

Those videos are sweet and I am just in aww :eek:

As long as either one of these cards can make my system work, I don't really care about anything else, hehe. Once the next generation of video cards are out, we will know how good they are anyway.

But damn, those videos still look sweet and that lady too ;)

-rahul
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Agreed.

Anyways, about the ATi Vs. Nvidia, gotta love it sometimes.:) The Never Ending Story.:p
 
Originally posted by emorphien
To me, assuming the guy was telling the truth, when he said the demos he saw ran better on the ATI than the nVidia system, that is his truth. Not necessarily a rumor, but also not the whole story (whether he was lying is another issue).
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It becomes a rumour when you post on it a public and popular message board. And would you get off your bloody white horse, don't hold people to standards you yourself have no problem breaking. Or as The Christ said, judge not lest ye be judged you hypocrtical ass. The way Mark goes about sharing is viewpoint is independent of the truthful matters behind them.

Secondly, I sure would be pissed off as hell if some punk on a message board went around spouting bullshit on matters that related to me. Also, if you'd bothered to read the post instead of spouting your crap you would have noticed that no 2 people were allowed to view the demonstration on the seperate machines so as to cut down on the ATI vs Nvidia war mongering [that's why gamespot, ign, homelan, ect didn't make any comments whatsoever about the ATI demo]. Hence, the original poster was 'full of bullshit' as Mark pointed out. So you'll have to forgive Mark for using the word bullshit as that is an automatic ticket to hell, do not stop and collect $200.

As someone else on these forums once mentioned, if you want pink bunnies to pat you on the head for every comment that you make while rainbows shoot out your ass...don't use the fucking internet.
 
Originally posted by M4d-K10wN
The only reason i like nVidia right now is because it has good OpenGL support. Oh, also i guess i sympathise to it because it's the underdog. If i didn't want to play so many OpenGL-based games, i would go with a 9800 pro.
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huh ??



yes, that's why them ati cards must do so well in prof opengl applications...
 
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