mem prices

Discussion in 'Memory' started by _l_, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. _l_

    _l_ Limp Gawd

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    I realize it was announced that mem prices would rise due to shortage due to cell phones but cell phones use a much smaller casing than PC sticks so why the increase in PC prices, I mean, is it the same mem chip in a larger case compared to cell phone mem?

    Also, DDR3 has not changed in price much so are they using DDR4 in cell phones today and that's why DDR4 prices are way too high ($280 for 16GB)?
     
  2. Luke M

    Luke M Limp Gawd

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    The chips are different, but they are made by the same companies in the same factories, so one affects the other.
     
  3. sinisterDei

    sinisterDei Gawd

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    Yes, cell phones swapping to DDR4 was a major contributing factor.

    And while cell phones don't use that much DDR4 compared to say a high end desktop, in a four person household there is likely 1 PC that is a candidate for running DDR4, but everyone in the family has a damn cell phone. The volume on them is significant, and unlike say memory sold for a computer, there is no possibility of reuse - when the phone goes in the pool, the DDR4 dies with it.

    In addition to that, there are other sources. High end servers can consume multiple terabytes of memory per server, and lots of clients built high end servers around the Xeon v2/v3 (Sandy/Ivy bridge) era and are just now replacing them. Those servers all used DDR3 in the past, but the newer platforms running DDR4 can get double or quadrouple the memory density per server. Buddy of mine works for HP as a sales engineer, and he's in the middle of a quote for one of his customers to sell twenty server nodes with 8 TB of memory *each*. Those twenty servers alone will consume as much DDR4 as 10k desktops with 16GB of RAM, if my math is right. AMD has also finally moved to DDR4, so whatever subset of the market that was still purchasing AMD based systems are on the DDR4 train now.

    Lastly, everything I've read has said that memory manufacturers have *not* ramped production to try and equal demand; they're not opening up more DDR4 factories. There are I'm sure lots of reasons for this, but I cannot imagine the memory vendors were happy when 32 GB of DDR4 sold for $120 (which is what I paid for mine) and I'm sure they're all very sad to be selling it for $400 instead nowadays.
     
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  4. _l_

    _l_ Limp Gawd

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    Excellent reply, thanks
     
  5. Joust

    Joust [H]Lite

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    Pretty much. A shame for the consumer, though.
     
  6. freddy419

    freddy419 n00bie

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    Nobody cares about the consumer