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May DC Commandos

Im so happy that FreeDC stats is back up. :) It has restored balance to the force!

The gap to #9 in the vault is now less than 800 points. And the next two spots after that are much closer. Crunch On!

EDIT: I moved my i7 to Aqua for the next few days. We should be able to get another spot or two in the next week or so.
 
metallicafan said:
Im so happy that FreeDC stats is back up. :) It has restored balance to the force!
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I was suffering stats withdrawal. :D

I'm slowly switching the NFS@home boxen over to other projects. One is running Yoyo, and I'm going to start some Aqua on it too. Another started OGR-27 (first time I've ever run it, so there's some stats lag on Free-DC, but I did join the team). A third is running Wieferich@home -- too bad the client software development seems to have stagnated, but if I don't touch it hope it will work OK. I'm planning to switch the SR-2 (#1 NFS computer at the moment :eek: ) over to GIMPS soon.

That 800-point gap might take a while to close, but we can do it.
 
It was rough missing those stats. My X6 is currently crushing Aqua@home while the weather remains cool. Aqua just gave me a huge WU that says its going 300+ hours (might assume for one core) or something because the deadline is August 8th or something and its already running high priority. My other WUs have been much smaller. Going to crunch on it and see how it moves because I am very curious. Its some called Quantom Redline Simulation or something very similar. I am already over 100k in a little over two days so there are major points to be earned.

Sazan - Hows that DB going? Would even be curious on an excel sheet to see your formulas and calculations.
 
Not having stats was killing me!
Sazan, Glad to have you running some OGR-27, we can definitely use the help there as well as putting your SR-2 on GIMPS should rip through those WUs.

I still have a c2d running NFS that I need to switch I just keep forgetting because it is in my roommates room. I'll most likely switch to Aqua@home to help out.
 
metallicafan said:
props to Jathanis for keeping our position in Spinhenge. Sazan - refresh my memory: What is this list showing? The projects we can gain the most in with the least amount of work?

Crunch on!
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Thanks - I was still here, but fighting a now dead 9600SGO in F@H, so I figured I'd hold down that project until a June push was announced (my excuse for being to lazy to move projects)... On the bright side, I'm close to 1M points on that project, so woot there!

As for the list, I worked out a spreadsheet a while back, but the easy rule is that the more teams participating in a project, the less points for moving up a place, but the easier to move up. And likewise, the less teams, the harder, but more points... If you're curious, the actual DC Vault formula is: Project Score = 10000 - ((Position - 1) * (10000 / Total teams). So you can see that few teams equate to a big denominator in that formula, which is what makes it easier to move up. I'm stopping there, as I've had to much Guinness today to explain it further! :D

The key to moving up is a combination of A) lots of teams in the project, B) lots of inactive teams above us, and C) not much gap between us and those inactive teams. That's how we can kick the most ass! I'd say that Aqua, Cosmology, SIMAP, Yoyo, and Docking, in that order, look to be the easiest way to add Vault points via BOINC, and Weiferich and OGR-27 are easiest for non BOINC, do to the combo of lower scores and the fact that we have lower ranking, so have more room to move up.
 
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Delivering a huge OGR-27 bump tomorrow. 616k Gnodes already done and the day is not over yet - maybe i can get the 1 million day done - even though daily prognosis doesn't say so.

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Great work on OGR-27, TheMTZ. I see I'm showing up in the team stats now. I really like the distributed.net client software, having never run it before.

My internet connection was down this morning, but I don't think I was idle too long. I just fired up GIMPS on the SR-2, so all machines are off NFS@Home and we should see a nice GIMPS bump a month from now.

I'm glad Free-DC is back (again) and I can see the Wieferich@home progress. It's about what I expected, which means we should overtake a team in about 2 months, and another 2 months after that, if the output remains steady. W@H does take a little bit of babysitting to make sure it's running at 100% but otherwise it's a decent project for a dedicated box.

My power bill was pretty high last month, but I'm hoping that was due to the end of the Einstein@home GPU push. I'll see how it looks this month. The temp is supposed to hit 100 degrees later this week, so hopefully my A/C can keep up.
 
Looks like Aqua had a few scoring glitches. It would seem they have them fixed now so it looks like we should gain back the 4 spots we have "dropped" in Aqua over the past two days. :) I've had my i7 shutdown for most of the past 2 days as we have had 100F heat. Should be cooler for the near future though so it is back on now.

Sazan - Is the W@H client about the same as when we ran it in the past? Like as far as stability and installation? Scoring any better than before?
 
I was worried you were done TheMTZ. Nice drop in points!

metallicafan, The only way we will make a decent hit in W@H is if we can get about 8+ people dedicated for at least 2 months. The project has a huge curve for team places. The points would be huge as well about 300+ for vault points.
 
SazanEyes said:
I really like the distributed.net client software, having never run it before.
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I'm using it for almost 10 years now and i really like it. In my opinion it's a lot easier to come around with than the folding client. They also provide a personal packet proxy which i really miss with folding.

On a side note: "Gnodes Yesterday: 997,590". The OGR-27 gods must seriously hate me to make it that close to a million.
 
metallicafan said:
Looks like Aqua had a few scoring glitches. It would seem they have them fixed now so it looks like we should gain back the 4 spots we have "dropped" in Aqua over the past two days. :)
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I wondered what was going on there. Good news.

metallicafan said:
Sazan - Is the W@H client about the same as when we ran it in the past? Like as far as stability and installation? Scoring any better than before?
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It's the same. The most recent beta client is more than a year old. I'm running a Gulftown now instead of Phenom II x4, so that bumped my points output, but progress is still slow. However, we should move up in W@H before Muon1, so that's why I started running it again. At 1500 points/day, it takes 67 days to gain 100K points, which is the gap with the next team (and another 100K gap after that). I think my older quad was only getting around 500/day. I would appreciate any help, and I see Eric just joined.

TheMTZ said:
I'm using it for almost 10 years now and i really like it. In my opinion it's a lot easier to come around with than the folding client. They also provide a personal packet proxy which i really miss with folding.

On a side note: "Gnodes Yesterday: 997,590". The OGR-27 gods must seriously hate me to make it that close to a million.
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I think most established DC projects have better software than F@H, which is somewhat mystifying. Too bad on missing a million, but you can always try again. :D Still, we should see a nice jump today when the stats update.
 
Nice work TheTMZ! Got the 1M after all. :)

Sazan - I'll move my i7 over for some W@H cycles later this month. Maybe with a few more CPUs we can speed up the process!
 
It's nice to see a couple [H]'s in the Muon1 top 100 list.
The Commandos seem to be popping up all over the place!
 
Mr. Pedantic said:
Congratulations :)

I think I'll need more than my 2 machines to catch up with you :p
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Unfortunately I don't get to use the hexcore at work as often as I used to (we have a co-op on the expensive machine, figure that out ><). My average during the week is ~86kPPD from just my workstation. So you're definitely higher production than I am normally!

Some time in the near future though we're ordering a testbed for new workstations and I should be getting that one to do some "is it actually faster, and is it worth it" testing. There's been talk of holding out till the new SB xeons hit dell, which would be awesome.
 
The Muon1 DPAD stats are borked on the DC Vault, but until they're fixed we have jumped up to #8. :p
 
I am really thinking about trying to do a long haul project for next month such as GIMPS or W@H. I normally change my mind too often about what projects I wanna focus on though :p
 
If we could get multiple people on GIMPS, I think we could make some decent gains. I don't know how much we could do on W@H in a month, but I would welcome the company. :)
 
Thought I'd see if the Commandos are still lurking, as its been quite around lately. :)

Sazan you still working on W@H? I'll come join you with my i7 if you are since Aqua@home is down. Just when we were starting to make some decent progress there too!
 
I am planning on trying to work on GIMPS over the month of july. I have been quite busy with my job recently (yay for overtime :mad:).

I did however just buy a new 24 port gig switch that I am working on configuring :)
 
Well I thought I was on W@H, but when you mentioned it I saw that my box was off. Just fired it up again. This box is running WHS 2011 RC, so at some point I need to switch to another OS. My BOINC box is running both Aqua and Yoyo, so luckily it kept working, although I have two Aqua units waiting to upload.

My i7 920 has been down for about a week with I think a bad hard drive. It was running GIMPS. I have a backup and some spare drives, but I just need to find time to work on it. My SR-2 is also crunching GIMPS, and should finish mid-July. It causes a bit of desktop lag so I'll switch the SR-2 to something else, maybe OGR.
 
Well, I hit 1M pernts in Spinhenge, So I've been thinking about giving either Enigma or Cosmology a run for a while until the next big BOINC team push - those are two of the lowest, and Cosmo has a lot of room to move up... My two quads alone should be able to gain us 75-100 Vault points a month for the next few months, depending on the points per WU...
 
The Enigma project has been a bit flaky lately (server issues), but hopefully it's stable again. I'm approaching 1M in Yoyo, so maybe I can join you.
 
Yeah, I can't say I think too much more of the Cosmo server - almost half of my WU show up as Error while Downloading... I'm going to give this a few days to see where it evens out, as it looks like I should be able to pull between 6-7K ppd with my farm, then report back with my results.
 
Are the Cosmology WU's still using a boatload of RAM like they used to?
 
The three units currently running on my non-dedicated machine are 674,912K, 340,532K, and 415,808K. All in all, not too bad, as I remember them being 800M to a gig last time I was running it. On this box, I only run 3 cores on BOINC so the wife doesn't complain about the machine bogging down, and with XP 32 bit, the total load, including having 2 separate accounts logged in, is 2745M.

It does seem to be giving me less points per core than I thought it would, but it may take a few days yet to build up...
 
any new plan on what to push on for July? I switched back to folding for june to get my numbers back up but plan to switch back to the DC Commandos for July and maybe August. I'm thinking about moving all 3 of my cpus' to Gimp and the 2 GPU's to GPU Grid or Prime Grid.
 
question about gimps and prime95 software. I just started it up today and noticed that while its using 4 workers with 2 logical cpus per worker, my system cpu usage is only 50%. am i missing a setting somewhere? my cpu is a 2600k that was working fine folding bigadv until i stopped today.

thanks
 
Some work units (trial factoring for example) do not support multithreading. You might want to set "type of work" to either double-check or first time tests, or double the number of worker windows. The advantage to trial factoring WUs is that they are very quick. Double-check WUs should take about a week to complete, and first time tests take a month or more.
 
finally figured that out. My workers were set to 4 with each having 2 threads but each worker was not using both threads fully. i set the number of workers to 8 to use 1 thread per worker. didnt mess with the work assignments since i dont know that they are. I now have a 2600k, 1090T and 955 on Gimps with lots of worker bees chugging away.
 
Kinda drifting on my own with Rosetta@Home for BOINC. I'll keep checking in to see if there is a "surge" on a particular project. So many projects to choose from .......
 
Well, blew a stick of memory (I think) last night on my main machine, so half my BOINC and all my folding will likely be offline for the weekend. Here's hoping I can go figure out which stick it is and pull it quick before leaving for the weekend without pissing off the wife for "wasting time"...
 
dmaine said:
finally figured that out. My workers were set to 4 with each having 2 threads but each worker was not using both threads fully. i set the number of workers to 8 to use 1 thread per worker. didnt mess with the work assignments since i dont know that they are. I now have a 2600k, 1090T and 955 on Gimps with lots of worker bees chugging away.
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In the Test menu, click on Status. That will tell you what is currently running. I checked our team page on the GIMPS web site and it looks like you're running LL, which is multithreaded. You might have been thrown off because I think GIMPS runs a quick single-threaded WU (NF-PM1 in the results) before starting the main LL WU. There's no problem with running them single-threaded, but they'll take twice as long to finish.

And thanks to you (and Eric E) for helping out with GIMPS.
 
My main desktop is having issues with GIMPS currently. It only wants to run with 50% utilization, I just don't have time to look into it yet. My6 server is currently running it 24/7 so it should be good but I want my i7 to be stable and run with it at 100%
 
etothe3ric said:
My main desktop is having issues with GIMPS currently. It only wants to run with 50% utilization, I just don't have time to look into it yet. My6 server is currently running it 24/7 so it should be good but I want my i7 to be stable and run with it at 100%
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In the Test menu, can you go into PrimeNet menu and add something in the "optional computer name" field? It'll let me see which of your machines is which. All the team WU assignments are visible at http://www.mersenne.org/tworkload/ (after you've logged in). FYI, Kali is my SR--2 and Chandi is the i7 that's offline.

Are all of your workers active? It looks like you have fewer WUs than cores.
 
Looks like I just had the wrong number set for the worker windows. It had 4 not 8. Also, what type of work do you normally set? I just set it up as "Whatever makes the most sense" for now because I didn't really know which tests are the best to do.

I added the optional field name as well the i7 is "Greenland i7", my server is "Canada".
 
Looking good everyone! I see that we have a few more people on GPUGRID. Welcome back sbrug and dmaine!
 
In GIMPS, I like to choose my work because some is single-threaded and some is multi-threaded, and depending on what you choose, you may have to adjust your worker windows.

If you just say "whatever makes the most sense" you'll probably get Lucas-Lehmer (LL), a.k.a. First time check. If you want to try to find a prime, this is what you want to run. Otherwise, I think they take too long (a month or more) to complete so I avoid them unless I plan to run GIMPS long-term. These are multi-threaded so worker windows should bet set to # of physical cores, and multi-threading should be set to 2 if appropriate (on systems without hyperthreading, keep it at 1).

My current favorite is Double check (LL-D). These take about a week (give or take a few days, since they can vary in size) and the points seem to scale nicely. These are multi-threaded like LL.

If you only want to run GIMPS briefly, choose Trial Factoring (TF). These are very quick (a few hours generally) but they are only single-threaded, so you'll want as many worker windows as you have threads.

There are a couple other options, but they seem to be specialized. One other type is P-1. If you're running LL you'll often get a P-1 WU to run first, and these are single-threaded. They're relatively quick so just let them run and eventually the LL will start. You don't always get them -- I've completed 13 LL but only 10 P-1.

As far as the big teams, most run LL, there's a decent amount of LL-D, and a little bit of TF.

Points are measured in GHz-days so they're pretty consistent. A faster computer has more GHz, so the WU takes less days. LL seems to be 80-95 GHz-days and LL-D is about 19-25 GHz-days. I haven't done any analysis on whether different CPU architectures get better points. I've always run on i7s in the 3.5GHz range.

If you make some changes in the client (like reducing the number of worker windows) and abandon some WUs, you can go onto the website and unreserve that work so it can be assigned to someone else. I think the WUs do have deadlines, but they seem to be pretty long, so it's better to clean things up manually.
 
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