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Mass Effect 2

As posted in the MS 09 press conference thread, this is my most anticipated game. 2010 doesn't come soon enough.

I love the music in that trailer. Adds a nice level of excitement. Reminds me of completing Mass Effect one and feeling like, "ya, I kick ass" lol.
 
Yeah I'm really looking forward to this game. I just really hope i get to port my other level 60's over from the first one. My biotic with his AR is really fun :).
 
I've played mass effect more than any game in years. I think 13-14 play throughs, and maxed achievements. This is SO day one it's not even funny :)
 
Technoob said:
I've played mass effect more than any game in years. I think 13-14 play throughs, and maxed achievements. This is SO day one it's not even funny :)
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damn that's a lot of playthroughs. I ran through the game 3 times. Enjoyed it every time. Although the side missions were kinda of dumb, but sounds like they are improving that big time for ME2

I really hope some of the early game decisions effect the end game outcome more. I kept thinking not gassing that bug creature into extinction would come back to haunt me or I would get help from them, but it didn't effect anything either way. I was sorely disappointed with that.
 
ClearM4 said:
damn that's a lot of playthroughs. I ran through the game 3 times. Enjoyed it every time. Although the side missions were kinda of dumb, but sounds like they are improving that big time for ME2

I really hope some of the early game decisions effect the end game outcome more than the first. I kept thinking not gassing that bug creature into extinction would come back to haunt me or I would get help from them, but it didn't effect anything either way. I was sorely disappointed with that.
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I'm usually not much of a completionist at all...it's the only game I've even got more than half the achievements on, just loved playing this game.
 
I'm still on my first run through Mass Effect. It's a great game and I'm seriously stoked for the sequel. I now have 3 must buys for 2010: Mass Effect 2, Deus Ex 3 and Diablo 3. :D
 
ClearM4 said:
I really hope some of the early game decisions effect the end game outcome more. I kept thinking not gassing that bug creature into extinction would come back to haunt me or I would get help from them, but it didn't effect anything either way. I was sorely disappointed with that.
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Yeah I let the queen go and hopefully that decision plays out in this game or the third game. Hopefully it be in a good way as well.
 
Lazy_Moron said:
Yeah I let the queen go and hopefully that decision plays out in this game or the third game. Hopefully it be in a good way as well.
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The way the developers were initially talking about Mass Effect I thought your decisions would more dramatically affect the game-play throughout the game, but after playing the game I now realize they were talking about the character development and conversations (which was quite fun to mess around with) and not so much the games main storyline which only attained subtle changes.

My favorite decision was what to do with the counsel's spaceship towards the end. lol, had to reload that save like 4 times. :)

BTW I have watch this watch like 10 times so far...... Is it 2010 yet?
 
I just hope ME2 isn't a buggy POS like the first. I'm still on my first run-through because it BSODs me so often it's ridiculous. It took me 7 restarts to make it through my first landing after you make Spectre.
 
ClearM4 said:
My favorite decision was what to do with the counsel's spaceship towards the end. lol, had to reload that save like 4 times. :)

BTW I have watch this watch like 10 times so far...... Is it 2010 yet?
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I killed off the counsels ship :D Sorry but if some alien race that is known to kill off all people in the galaxy is about invade, 4-5 people can die.
 
ME1 was great. I've play through it twice and my wife has, too. Those damned side missions for collecting minerals and whatnot are torturous, though. In my second playthough I couldn't bring myself to do that again.
I'll hope that ME2 keeps those type of missions to a minimum.
 
My biggest question is, if you do more than 1 playthrough in ME1, will only the decisions you made during the last playthrough count? I played through being good for my first one and really want to play through again being bad. But when I play ME2, I don't want the decisions I made during my bad playthrough to carry over.
 
All great comments above!!! Mass effect was one of the best games I ever played.I also wish you decisions would affect the world a little more later in the game not just you and your party. And my god was the game buggy!! I played on the 360 version and there were parts I avoided just becuase they would always freeze and the texture pop in was terrible. And yeah the mineral collecting was excruciating. More fleshed out planets, decisions need to affect the world more and fix some of the technical issues and we have a masterpiece on our hands. Is it 2010 yet?
 
If they can fix the texture popping, the mako and the side quests this will be one of the best games ever.
 
Loved Mass Effect. Hated the Mako. Looking forward to Mass Effect 2.
 
I honestly didn't mind the Mako that much, I just hated the way they handled the missions with it.
I wouldn't care if they kept it around...just make the missions less repetitious. A first person aiming perspective might've also been nice at times, too.
 
Weird, I played the PC version and loved driving the Mako. The people talking about hating the mako, PC or xbox360 version?

Also, I had almost no technical problems with the PC version (maybe 3 or 4 freezes with ~60 hours played, 3 playthroughs). Oblivion was much worse. Great games can be forgiven much easier though. :)
 
ClearM4 said:
Weird, I played the PC version and loved driving the Mako. The people talking about hating the mako, PC or xbox360 version?

Also, I had almost no technical problems with the PC version (maybe 3 or 4 freezes with ~60 hours played, 3 playthroughs). Oblivion was much worse. Great games can be forgiven much easier though. :)
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360 - for me it wasn't so much that the mako was hard to drive or anything, but if you did all the side missions and landed on every planet (to get the ally achievements), there was just too much of driving the damn thing up and down unnecessary mountains.
 
Am I the only person who thinks FINALLY being able to launch explosives will be nice? I hated how so many enemies could launch rockets, yet I never could...hmm.

Can't wait for ME2....notice how Kaiden and Ashley (and the other guy you could kill...can't remember his name...the one with the pointed head...) are all missing from the trailer...
 
rampantandroid said:
Can't wait for ME2....notice how Kaiden and Ashley (and the other guy you could kill...can't remember his name...the one with the pointed head...) are all missing from the trailer...
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Talking about Wrex? Both Ashley and Wrex are alive at the end of my ME1 playthrough. Try it again, there's ways to save Wrex. But they're probably being careful with who they put in trailers. That person who never played ME1 will eventually say "Don't buy this game. They didn't put all the characters in like they showed in the trailers!!!!111"
 
Version_3 said:
Talking about Wrex? Both Ashley and Wrex are alive at the end of my ME1 playthrough. Try it again, there's ways to save Wrex. But they're probably being careful with who they put in trailers. That person who never played ME1 will eventually say "Don't buy this game. They didn't put all the characters in like they showed in the trailers!!!!111"
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I put a bullet through that Wrex bastard's head. He was stealing way too many of my kills
 
Version_3 said:
Talking about Wrex? Both Ashley and Wrex are alive at the end of my ME1 playthrough. Try it again, there's ways to save Wrex. But they're probably being careful with who they put in trailers. That person who never played ME1 will eventually say "Don't buy this game. They didn't put all the characters in like they showed in the trailers!!!!111"
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Ashley and Wrex lived in mine as well....but the point is, that he can POTENTIALLY die, and Bioware has said save game files from ME1 will be used for ME2. So when you play ME2, if you import your saves, Ashley will be alive and Kaiden dead.
 
rampantandroid said:
Ashley and Wrex lived in mine as well....but the point is, that he can POTENTIALLY die, and Bioware has said save game files from ME1 will be used for ME2. So when you play ME2, if you import your saves, Ashley will be alive and Kaiden dead.
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Saving Wrex requires either a lot of charm or intimidate in order to activate the option in the dialog tree that defuses the situation.

That said, Mass Effect was my PC game of the year last year. I've always been a fan of Bioware's work and even the second rate sequels they handed off to Obsidian a la NWN 2 and KotOR 2. While the universe they crafted might be entirely derivative from other sci-fi works, I find that I really like the scenario and the story. Most other futuristic spacetravel media always seems completely implausible to me, but the entire story behind the mass effect and the way it affects human history is very compelling to me.
 
krameriffic said:
Saving Wrex requires either a lot of charm or intimidate in order to activate the option in the dialog tree that defuses the situation.

That said, Mass Effect was my PC game of the year last year. I've always been a fan of Bioware's work and even the second rate sequels they handed off to Obsidian a la NWN 2 and KotOR 2. While the universe they crafted might be entirely derivative from other sci-fi works, I find that I really like the scenario and the story. Most other futuristic spacetravel media always seems completely implausible to me, but the entire story behind the mass effect and the way it affects human history is very compelling to me.
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Getting Wrex his Family's armor also is key to not killing him.

I do like Bioware a lot, and look forward to ME2...
 
rampantandroid said:
Getting Wrex his Family's armor also is key to not killing him.

I do like Bioware a lot, and look forward to ME2...
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Yeah, the saving wrex is actually not about having high charm or intimidate, because none of the dialogue options in that scenario have the red or blue text. Anyone can save wrex even if they don't have high charm/intim skill, because it's one of the few conversations that are meant to be unlockable by anyone.
 
Technoob said:
Yeah, the saving wrex is actually not about having high charm or intimidate, because none of the dialogue options in that scenario have the red or blue text. Anyone can save wrex even if they don't have high charm/intim skill, because it's one of the few conversations that are meant to be unlockable by anyone.
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QFT. I actually felt pretty bad killing him with my renegade character (I have one paragon, one renegade saved) he was always so badass in firefights.
 
rampantandroid said:
Getting Wrex his Family's armor also is key to not killing him.

I do like Bioware a lot, and look forward to ME2...
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Well I guess I didn't play it through enough different times to see it done any other way. I had a ton of intimidate and a red dialog option pop up to save him. First time I played it I just wound up killing him.
 
Technoob said:
Yeah, the saving wrex is actually not about having high charm or intimidate, because none of the dialogue options in that scenario have the red or blue text. Anyone can save wrex even if they don't have high charm/intim skill, because it's one of the few conversations that are meant to be unlockable by anyone.
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From the Mass Effect Wiki:

After Wrex finds out that Shepard is going to try to destroy a cure for the genophage on Virmire, he threatens to kill the commander. He is either shot by Shepard, if you choose the Renegade option, or by Ashley (either on Shepard's orders or her own initiative). Alternatively, if your Charm/Intimidate skill is high enough (or if you've done Wrex's side quest to help him recover his family armor), he can be calmed down, enough to reaffirm his hatred for Saren and rejoin the squad.
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I had Mass Effect on day 1 after reading all the hype. Got it for a birthday present. I just got around to beating it a few months ago. I would say the story is decent at best. Better than most stuff that has come along in the past few years, still Kotor had a better storyline overall. The thing that attracts me to Mass Effect is the different species and different races with different agendas intertwined in a big conflict.

I did not take Wrex on my first play through and did not do a lot of the side missions. I was a chick and named it after my girlfriend Michelle and I made sure that I was a total bitch throughout the game (hope she does not read this :))
 
i played through the game 3 or 4 times in a row. i loved it so much after i beat it that i just loaded up a new game with new class and keep right on trucking. it's still the only game i have 1050 gamerscore on.

the story wasn't nearly as interesting as the universe they created for it. not super original (all aspects of mass effect come from borrowed sci-fi concepts) but fun in the way they tied them together.

it moves quickly, and the sidequests, while time consuming (in a bad way re: mako) and its an easy RPG to pick up and play for periods of time as short as 15-20 minutes, but doesn't get old or boring when playing it for hours at a time either.

if there are good incentives to preorder, i might do that. otherwise i'll have it first day it's out
 
ClearM4 said:
^--- I knew I shot that bastard Wrex myself. Technoob trying to confuse me. :p

My Ashley was a useless B#%&. I was hot on the blue thing.
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haha, I stand very corrected. I need to go replay for a 15th time now :D

Interesting also in that every time I play things go differently, one of the many things I love about the game.
 
Technoob said:
haha, I stand very corrected. I need to go replay for a 15th time now :D

Interesting also in that every time I play things go differently, one of the many things I love about the game.
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Oddly, I'm on my second play through and things are going roughly the same (I got the whole arguement over which romantic interest you have in the comm room after Noveria, I had not seen this before...)

But I tried playing some other classes, and just keep coming back to soldier...infiltrator was OK at best...I missed the massive regenerative abilities of the soldier; I think playing the game on hardcore is actually done best with the soldier.

But seriously: The ending battles of the major missions suck on hardcare. Ending the mission to get Liara is a pain...the Krogan just charges you...and your teammates die right away. Then you die, and have to sit through the elevator animation and dialog with the krogan. Again. And again. And AGAIN.

Then Noveria (did that last night) and I had to replay the battle with Benezia 4-5 times, sitting through the damned dialog every time. That shit got old. Really old. Bioware: Autosaves after lengthly dialogs, please? Put a few second delay in there so you don't load into a firefight, but don't make me suffer the cutscene every time.

I'm thinking I may get the game for PC and try a play through and see if the Mako is actually enjoyable for once...and enjoy the lack of texture pop-ins.
 
the game started pretty difficult on hardcore, but got pretty easy by the end. it really depends on how you build your character. i played through with everything but the sentinal (i actually might have used sentinal but i don't remember)

the two strongest characters are the soldier with the lift skill, and the adept with the assault rifle bonus. soldiers just spam immunity and fire away, adepts spam barrier and fire away. the lift skill works on everyone, including the final boss. so lift em up, shoot away, rinse and repeat.

i liked infiltrator a lot, its a bit slower in the gameplay, but take your time to disable the weapons, blast the shields, etc...
 
Dome said:
the game started pretty difficult on hardcore, but got pretty easy by the end. it really depends on how you build your character. i played through with everything but the sentinal (i actually might have used sentinal but i don't remember)

the two strongest characters are the soldier with the lift skill, and the adept with the assault rifle bonus. soldiers just spam immunity and fire away, adepts spam barrier and fire away. the lift skill works on everyone, including the final boss. so lift em up, shoot away, rinse and repeat.

i liked infiltrator a lot, its a bit slower in the gameplay, but take your time to disable the weapons, blast the shields, etc...
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Getting better guns has certainly helped...once I actually stopped and did all of my talents right (I had like...4 points to spend on teammates) and redid my gun loadouts a little, I did much better. For the Benezia mission I had Ashley and Garrus...Garrus proved totally worthless and died a few times (yay for Unity?) and Ashley served as a meat shield and maybe got a kill or two. I guess I need to play around with getting Wrex on my squad, see if he fairs better. Hardcore seems to be much more about your skill, and less about your teammates...other than sending your teammates into places to get killed while you pick off enemies.
 
rampantandroid said:
Oddly, I'm on my second play through and things are going roughly the same (I got the whole arguement over which romantic interest you have in the comm room after Noveria, I had not seen this before...)

But I tried playing some other classes, and just keep coming back to soldier...infiltrator was OK at best...I missed the massive regenerative abilities of the soldier; I think playing the game on hardcore is actually done best with the soldier.

But seriously: The ending battles of the major missions suck on hardcare. Ending the mission to get Liara is a pain...the Krogan just charges you...and your teammates die right away. Then you die, and have to sit through the elevator animation and dialog with the krogan. Again. And again. And AGAIN.

Then Noveria (did that last night) and I had to replay the battle with Benezia 4-5 times, sitting through the damned dialog every time. That shit got old. Really old. Bioware: Autosaves after lengthly dialogs, please? Put a few second delay in there so you don't load into a firefight, but don't make me suffer the cutscene every time.

I'm thinking I may get the game for PC and try a play through and see if the Mako is actually enjoyable for once...and enjoy the lack of texture pop-ins.
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Biotic is my favorite class. Charging krogan? Lift or push :)

When I beat it on insane my regular party was ashley and wrex beefed up as shooters and me as full biotic. I'd send everything flying, they'd blow it away. Usually had one using shotty one with assault rifle.
 
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