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fallnangl

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ok heres the deal its from my first sytem on my sig. One of my maxtor 120gb drives just strarted acting funny. i click on it and it takes like 45-55 secs for me to even get a response from it. the other maxtor works fine. what the heck could the problem be is the disk dying?/ any help is appreciated. thanx in advance
 
1) back up everything you wanna save, because it will get lost in the next steps.
2) go HERE and download the powermax.exe file and create a floppy from it.
3) run the "low level format" utility (this will take a VERY long time, so it may be best to do it before going to sleep or before heading to work/school).
4) if 3) was successful, run the full drive diagnostic test to make sure that the drive is still ok.
5) if the test says the drive is good, repartition and reformat it, then put your stuff back on it...if it's bad, RMA it or buy a new one
 
errr...you dont think zeroing the drive is a bit extreme as a first step? :p
1st Check the event viewer
Start > Run > (type) compmgmt.msc > Event Viewer > System
post any warnings or errors
then click the Device Manager > expand IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers >DClick the channel the drive is on > Advanced Setting Tab > Current Transfer mode for both devices (if there are 2) should be Ultra DMA Mode
if not post that

lets just start there
im going to sleep, but you can download the diagnostic from the HDD manufacturer
that xXaNaXx linked and run the diagnostic (but dont zero the drive)
post any errors here

then download the latest chipset driver for the mobo
(it has the busmaster driver)

then post your system specs, HDD and device configuration
Primary Channel master\slave, secondary channel master\slave
, mobo, any SATA ect

now even if you get errors on all of those, its still not necessarilly the HDD
it could be the cable, or the busmaster driver could be corrupted
or the filesystem

so do those four things first and we will rule a few things out
I'll be back tommorow afternoon (Rocky Mnt Time) ;)
 
thanx for replies..i have already run the the component services and from the beginning when i ifrst got the drive it has always said online (with errors) googled that phrase and nothing reallypopped up. as for my data already backed up. when it started acting up i started buring dvds of data. so how cani check to c whats going on with since windows isnt telling me me anything or what the fubar is going on with it??/
 
dandragonrage said:
Never run a low level format. If the drive is screwed, it won't help anyway.
Click to expand...

actually thats not entirely true
a "fake" low level format which is actually a zero fill, gives the drive a chance to lockout bad sectors and will clearup some issues that a normal format doesnt seem to
I base that on empirical evidence, its just a zero fill anyway and so will do no harm
but is extreme for a first measure :p

a "true" low level format is impossible to do to a modern drive outside of the factory
the areal density is just too high, and the servo burst patterns and environmental stability required to write them just beyond an offsite capability


lets try this again :rolleyes:
go to the event viewer > system > dclick any error > get the Event ID and the Source
then use http://www.eventid.net/search.asp
and
are they enabled for UDMA?
and did you run the manufacturers diagnostic? if so what did it say?
what are your system specs?
what is the physical configuration?

Im afraid I have to insist if Im going to help you
lets rule out the obvious and try a few easy things first ;)
 
Ice Czar said:
actually thats not entirely true
a "fake" low level format which is actually a zero fill, gives the drive a chance to lockout bad sectors and will clearup some issues that a normal format doesnt seem to
I base that on empirical evidence, its just a zero fill anyway and so will do no harm
but is extreme for a first measure :p

a "true" low level format is impossible to do to a modern drive outside of the factory
the areal density is just too high, and the servo burst patterns and environmental stability required to write them just beyond an offsite capability


lets try this again :rolleyes:
go to the event viewer > system > dclick any error > get the Event ID and the Source
then use http://www.eventid.net/search.asp
and
are they enabled for UDMA?
and did you run the manufacturers diagnostic? if so what did it say?
what are your system specs?
what is the physical configuration?

Im afraid I have to insist if Im going to help you
lets rule out the obvious and try a few easy things first ;)
Click to expand...


ok to answer questions
1.no erros
2.udma is enabled
3.yes diagncvs were run/no errors
4.specs are at the bottom system 1
5.ok 2 hdd on 1 channel the trouble some maxtor on an ide contoller card on pci(SIIG is manufacturer) has latest drivers as well.
 
Come to think of it, I had a problem just like this with a Maxtor 40GB drive. I just ended up replacing it with a WD800JB and my whole system's performance came back to normal.
 
fallnangl said:
ok to answer questions
1.no erros
2.udma is enabled
3.yes diagncvs were run/no errors
4.specs are at the bottom system 1
5.ok 2 hdd on 1 channel the trouble some maxtor on an ide contoller card on pci(SIIG is manufacturer) has latest drivers as well.
Click to expand...

Aha..so the problem drive is on a PCI card?
are you overclocked?
with a divider or is the AGP\FSB locked?
have you tried the card in different slots?
there could easily be a PIRQ Routing issue
(which wouldnt show up in an isolated DOS environment)
have you tried the HDD on the mobos IDE channels?
have you tried removing the card through the add remove hardware wizard or device manager and forcing a new copy of the driver on reboot?
What OS are you running and what Service Pack?
there are some SCSI issues with some of them,
and IDE Controller cards use SCSI Drivers
Is the drive write cache enabled?
 
I had an 80gig maxtor that was acting up. Was causing slow boots even showed a corrupted
hard drive name. checked everything in windows , used powermax , said to contact maxtor , got pissed , looked at cable noticed that the cable wasnt in tight pulled it off shoved it back in and bam it worked fine and still is.
 
dandragonrage said:
Never run a low level format. If the drive is screwed, it won't help anyway.
Click to expand...

Ice Czar said:
actually thats not entirely true
a "fake" low level format which is actually a zero fill, gives the drive a chance to lockout bad sectors and will clearup some issues that a normal format doesnt seem to
I base that on empirical evidence, its just a zero fill anyway and so will do no harm
but is extreme for a first measure :p
Click to expand...

I'll second Ice Czar. The WD 60 GB drive I'm currently running on failed all kinds of chkdsk and Data Lifeguard tests, reporting anything from unrecoverable bad sectors to multiple SMART failure. The WD diagnostic program went so far as to demand immeadiate RMA. A low level format fixed all problems. Saved me two weeks without a hard drive.
 
ok i freaking shut the hdd down and then formatted it; crossed my fingers and now its back to working fine. dont know what the fu** was wrong but its fixed for now definatyl gonna get a new hdd cause now im paranoid that this one is gonna die i really appreciate all the help to resolve this issue. :)
 
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