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LSI HBA recognition issues

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NukeULater

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Hello,

I recently purchased an LSI 9211-8i HBA to add more hard drives to to my computer. Yet for some reason, I cannot seem to get this card to be recognized by windows. I am running it in a pcie x16 slot on my Abit ix38 quad gt which has a Intel X38 chipset. When the card is installed its power LED's are lit so it must be getting power. Am I correct thinking that I should be able to hit ctrl + i or something along those lines to get into the cards raid settings? Would a bios setting prevent that from occurring?

I am really stumped with this card, I've never had an issue quite like this.Thanks for the help in advance. System specs are in my sig.
 
That card and its cousins have notorious compatibility issues. If you don't see its BIOS at startup, it's probably incompatible. But you should try other PCIe ports.

I own an IBM M1015 which is the same card, if I put it on my P965 based computer, it doesn't even boot. It's working fine on two X58 based configurations, however.
 
You could try to disable on board sata on bios. Some mobo bios have conflicts with raid card either hba or assitted raid or hardwae raid. Had been that situation recently and by disable onboard sata all issu with lsi and adaptec raid gone..

The problem could bd I/o and interrupt conflicts with rom/bios in raid card
 
cantalup said:
You could try to disable on board sata on bios. Some mobo bios have conflicts with raid card either hba or assitted raid or hardwae raid. Had been that situation recently and by disable onboard sata all issu with lsi and adaptec raid gone..

The problem could bd I/o and interrupt conflicts with rom/bios in raid card
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I just tried disabling the onboard sata and it still will not recognize the card. I have also tried all of the PCIe ports on my motherboard. Nothing. It seems I am out of luck with this card.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a more compatible HBA card with two SFF-8087 ports? Would the HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL or SUPERMICRO AOC-SASLP-MV8 fair any better? I do need 3TB support.
 
Those few boards that I have tried LSI based cards on and didn't work, the Supermicro MV8 did
 
NukeULater said:
I just tried disabling the onboard sata and it still will not recognize the card. I have also tried all of the PCIe ports on my motherboard. Nothing. It seems I am out of luck with this card.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a more compatible HBA card with two SFF-8087 ports? Would the HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL or SUPERMICRO AOC-SASLP-MV8 fair any better? I do need 3TB support.
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did you try to disable all onboard peripherals in your mobo BIOS? do not disable USB in your BIOS, if you are using USB Keyboard.

during rebooting, you should se the raid ROM/BIOS displays "blabla.... loading XXX" samething...
If you see that, the raid card is detected.

I think AOC-SASLP-MV8 chipset is Marvell ..., do not know 2720SGL. those could utilize the same chipset from Marvell.

could not suggest you further more...

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mine is Gigabyte Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#ov
I had to disable onboard sata(from AMD Chipset) to make raid cards work (M1015 aka LSI 2008 chipset, Adaptec 4805 aka intel iop that pretty old which supports max 2T HD, and P410/P212 aka PMC Sierra with HP modification).
 
Have you made sure you have updated your BIOS to latest version?

If a 9211-8i isn't being recognized I think you need to fix than rather than try other HBA's... it's a very common card/chipset so if it isn't working something is seriously wrong.
 
Are you running at least 4d13 as your BIOS (4d14 would be preferable). 4d13 fixed some Pcie contention issues.
 
If you aren't going to use RAID, you should return the LSI and purchase an AOC-SASLP-MV8 (or the updated SAS2 version) which is very popular as a HBA for JBOD. I believe the AOC also passes SMART which I can't seem to get. I just bought an IBM M1015 (which can be flashed to the LSI 9211-8i IT and IR modes) but before that, I read a lot of reviews which had a lot of compatability issues with motherboards so it can be a real hit or miss.
 
cantalup said:
did you try to disable all onboard peripherals in your mobo BIOS? do not disable USB in your BIOS, if you are using USB Keyboard.

during rebooting, you should se the raid ROM/BIOS displays "blabla.... loading XXX" samething...
If you see that, the raid card is detected.
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This machine is pretty stripped down as it is. Most of the onboard peripherals are turned off. Although I did take your advice and tested this, still nothing.

mwroobel said:
Are you running at least 4d13 as your BIOS (4d14 would be preferable). 4d13 fixed some Pcie contention issues.
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I am running BIOS 4d14.

FrostBite said:
If you aren't going to use RAID, you should return the LSI and purchase an AOC-SASLP-MV8 (or the updated SAS2 version) which is very popular as a HBA for JBOD. I believe the AOC also passes SMART which I can't seem to get. I just bought an IBM M1015 (which can be flashed to the LSI 9211-8i IT and IR modes) but before that, I read a lot of reviews which had a lot of compatibility issues with motherboards so it can be a real hit or miss.
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I would prefer to have some form of RAID. Right now I don't need it, but as soon as drive prices fall my data might be moving to a raid 1+0 array.
 
FrostBite said:
If you aren't going to use RAID, you should return the LSI and purchase an AOC-SASLP-MV8 (or the updated SAS2 version) which is very popular as a HBA for JBOD. I believe the AOC also passes SMART which I can't seem to get. I just bought an IBM M1015 (which can be flashed to the LSI 9211-8i IT and IR modes) but before that, I read a lot of reviews which had a lot of compatability issues with motherboards so it can be a real hit or miss.
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speaking of M1015:
I bought on Ebay, and flashed to the newest firmware from LSI.
M1015 set all unconfigured HD as jbod, which I do not need to flash to IT :D.
Linux can detects and loads the module without issue and see all the drives in sdX.

as I know, some mobo BIOS conflicts with RAID/HBA pci-ex card.
Which mobo is not giving conflicts? just pick and test... :| let your lucky works...
 
NukeULater said:
I would prefer to have some form of RAID. Right now I don't need it, but as soon as drive prices fall my data might be moving to a raid 1+0 array.
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It's another subject in itself, but I am finding that people are starting to move to software RAID like ZFS, unRAID, and FlexRAID which all have really matured in the last few years; even WMS has duplication/RAID 1. Some do reccomend LSI 2008 though. These have really upped the game, especially coming from crappy Intel ICHX.

Unless you are going to RAID 0 4x SSD's...
 
MarkL said:
Have you made sure you have updated your BIOS to latest version?

If a 9211-8i isn't being recognized I think you need to fix than rather than try other HBA's... it's a very common card/chipset so if it isn't working something is seriously wrong.
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It's common but is an enterprise product, made to run on workstation/server boards.

The problem with a lot of desktop motherboards is that they "optimize" the PCIe ports, support things like crossfire and SLI, have switches to redirect PCIe lanes depending on what is connected, and that can cause problems with some cards.
 
Aesma said:
It's common but is an enterprise product, made to run on workstation/server boards.

The problem with a lot of desktop motherboards is that they "optimize" the PCIe ports, support things like crossfire and SLI, have switches to redirect PCIe lanes depending on what is connected, and that can cause problems with some cards.
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that could be true :|

the mobo (gigabbyte 990FXA with 5 pci-ex 16X,16X or 8X, 4X, 4X, and 1X) that I bought has a divider to switch from single 16X to dual 8X 8X pci-ex.
I posted my issue to gigabyte tech support that Raid card does not recognized any attach HD, They suggested to disable onboard Sata. It solved my problem that I tried to solve for a week.

indirectly They mention that this/my mobo for consumer product not for server product that not optimized for non-consumer "RAID"card.

that made me curious when I plugged any RAID card to my old mATX AMD AM2 mobo from Asus that only have 1X pci-ex and 16X pci-ex(Raid card on this slot). the raid card can detect any HDs that attached to the raid card.

at the end of my conclusion that cause issues :
1) mobo design
2) BIOS
3) luck!!!

I took AMD route due on cheaper CPU( discount) and desktop Mobo(discount and rebate), support ecc unbuff memory.
Was taking intel i3 which support ecc unbuff with server/workstation mobo (C20X chipset), but the price is much more than AMD Route.
 
Many LSI cards have had issues with "some" Intel boards for years now. If you've got an Intel system, do not buy an LSI-based card unless you can verify beforehand that it works with your motherboard... IMO, anyway. And then there are boards that do stupid things like give you 8 or 16 downstream channels but only 1 upstream. i.e. some PCI-E sockets are pretty much only useful for video cards, and sometimes boards don't support anything else at all. It's kind of a crappy situation if you can't find reports of how your motherboard works with the RAID card you want beforehand.
 
Ive got two m1015's ... one is in IT mode and the other isnt, the one in IT mode refuses to work in my asus e35M1-I- doesnt even let the machine boot but the other one appears to work fine
 
I got one of the M1015 i order today, still gather parts for my nas/server all in one

decide to give the card a go with my UD5. read all these horrible experience about LSI and gigabyte no working

i was happy to see the LSI at post like it tells you if you want to enter web bios CRTL H and something else CRTL + I i get some kind of command line

in web bios i couldn't use my mouse it was a usb -> ps2 adapter

in windows installed mega raid storage manager cannot see the raid card

i see a raid card in windows device but it just cannot get a driver :/

the firmware on the card was 20.16 1-0061

what are you suppose to see if m1015 is compatible with your motherboard at post?

does supermicro motherboard fully support M1015 see lots of people on the forum use this set up

I'm thinking about either Intel DQ67EP or supermicro X9SCV-Q

thanks
 
I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't boot at all if it didn't work with your motherboard, at least that was as far as I read before I bought mine; if you saw the LSI post, it should definately be working. As for the drivers, I found them by looking for "m1015 drivers" on Google, took about 2-3 websites, but I was able to find the drivers for Windows 7. If you can't find it at all, feel free to PM me and I can email you what I have.
 
FrostBite said:
I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't boot at all if it didn't work with your motherboard, at least that was as far as I read before I bought mine; if you saw the LSI post, it should definately be working. As for the drivers, I found them by looking for "m1015 drivers" on Google, took about 2-3 websites, but I was able to find the drivers for Windows 7. If you can't find it at all, feel free to PM me and I can email you what I have.
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i tho the driver was the storage matrix like from IBM here god i feel stupid lol

PM you

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how you guys cool your raid cards

small fans mounted onto the heatsink or large fans blowing air to it

or watercool lol
 
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They should not require any cooling beyond what they come with, unless its made for a proprietary system (PERC for example)
 
The M1015 is really hot without cooling, remember the original servers it comes with have big fans blowing at full blast and those servers are used in air conditioned rooms. So I put a 40mm fan on mine.

Watercooling it, well, I could, but it seems overkill.
 
Im not sure how hot you are talking, Ive got one in a case with a single 120mm fan and its fine. I even ran one for a brief time without the heatsink at all.
 
i touch the heatsink with my finger it felt hot

my intake fans is all the way in the front of the case and goes through hdds / cable then to the pci area

i trying to think of a way to mod a 120mm at slow speed infront of the card
 
Yeah, in a well ventilated case without much hardware, I guess it would be OK with just the heatsink (removing it seems a little crazy, though). In my case it's at the top of my BTX case, no airflow going there at all, and not much air anyway since the main components are watercooled, and the hard drives are segregated from the rest of the hardware in this Lian Li.
 
watercooling more for bling factor than anything. I have done an ARC-1880, and an 1882. also a 9265.
but for the 9211 you wont need it. not that you really need it anyways. just cool when your bored.
 
FrostBite said:
I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't boot at all if it didn't work with your motherboard, at least that was as far as I read before I bought mine; if you saw the LSI post, it should definately be working. As for the drivers, I found them by looking for "m1015 drivers" on Google, took about 2-3 websites, but I was able to find the drivers for Windows 7. If you can't find it at all, feel free to PM me and I can email you what I have.
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w00t thanks frostbite got them working

my drive is detected under windows after using the drivers you sent me,i also try the drivers on the lsi 9240 they work great too

i plug my crucial m4 into my m1015 seq speed is better than my on board intel sata 2 but the 4k and 4k64thrd

intelsata2m4.jpg


m1015m4.jpg


going to try to flash it to IR mode as it is better for windows?

who said LSI doesnt work on gigabyte :p
 
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I would read up the pro's and con's of running it from stock, LSI IR or LSI IT; the decision itself is based on what you are trying to do.
 
i decided to use my intel x58 sata2 controller for my new ssd m4 in raid 0. it will be easier to update the firmwares but loose bit of sequential read/write performance

also with intel raid on, you cannot see M1015 drives in bios if intel sata was in IDE mode it was ok

you can still see them in windows either selection you make (IDE/RAID) just not in bios

and flash my m1015 to IT for my other normal hdds

m1015ir2m4.jpg


intelx58sata2raid0m4.jpg


intelx58sata2raid0m42.jpg


raidm1015ir.jpg
<-- RAID 0 on IR

I try to do raid 0 on stock IBM M1015 the 4k write was so slow i had to cancel it
 
Balance: Intel Matrix RAID and the LSI card don't work together because the CMOS does not allocate enough memory (working memory, not CMOS storage space) for both option ROMs to run at once. Real server boards are less likely to have this problem. Some consumer boards don't even have enough memory allocated to OPROMs to even run the newer versions of Intel Matrix RAID (as it bloats up when they add features - it's about 119KB currently)
 
I just picked up a new 9211-8I!

At first, had trouble flashing it from IR to IT (apparently it's tricky on the new 6gb/sec version of the cards)...

After this, I couldn't get in to the BIOS either with or without drives
I could boot the system as long as NO drives were connected to the card
With drives connected, it would freeze during POST...

Popped it in another system, had issues with that system too, finally got it working after removing a video card... Went in to BIOS, and told it to work only with OS, and NOT BIOS...

Popped card back in first system, working AOK! I still see the LSI stuff during POSt, however it states itself that it is disabled... When the linux kernel boots it takes over and loads everything up and detects the drives.
 
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