Lone Industries L2: Dual slot version of L1 anyone?

[reactor451]

I'm using a A-10 7850K with that motherboard (also a 95w CPU) and a mSATA drive for boot. I've got a shuriken big 2 rev.b CPU cooler with a 25mm PWM fan on top. Powered by a HD Plex 160w PSU.

Its certainly possible, I dont have experience with a GPU though. My temps are pretty solid, never pass 65C even under heavy gaming, while still staying only barely audible

A-10 7850K, very tempting. I was hoping to do some gaming under Linux (Steam OS) and I heard the AMD linux drivers just weren't what they are on Windows Still I could get that and have enough money for a licence.

I was also looking at the Shuriken but first dismissed it since it looked kinda thin. Hearing your experience changed my mind tho. I might look into getting one myself

Thanks for both of your replies, I think I'll be going with this build soon.

 

[Stevo_]

Double post

 

[Stevo_]

A-10 7850K, very tempting. I was hoping to do some gaming under Linux (Steam OS) and I heard the AMD linux drivers just weren't what they are on Windows Still I could get that and have enough money for a licence.

I was also looking at the Shuriken but first dismissed it since it looked kinda thin. Hearing your experience changed my mind tho. I might look into getting one myself

Thanks for both of your replies, I think I'll be going with this build soon.

Almost suggested that A10, but not having ever used one wasn't sure of performance etc compared to discrete GPU. I think there are quite a few people that have used the big shuriken in small builds with great success. You can get quite a bit of power in these small cases, here's my L2, loaded up with 3770K, gtx 750 ti, 2 SSDs, HD Plex 160W, have tortured it for over an hour ~135 watts at the mobo. Prolimatech 140mm on an AXP100.

 

[Pyotr_Parker]

A-10 7850K, very tempting. I was hoping to do some gaming under Linux (Steam OS) and I heard the AMD linux drivers just weren't what they are on Windows Still I could get that and have enough money for a licence.

I was also looking at the Shuriken but first dismissed it since it looked kinda thin. Hearing your experience changed my mind tho. I might look into getting one myself

Thanks for both of your replies, I think I'll be going with this build soon.

I'm using mine with Windows 10, so i cant speak to linux drivers, but performance is pretty good, I dont game, but i wanted some decent GPU power for videos.

Has anybody VESA mounted their L1/2/3? im thinking of doing that so the only exposed wires are a single USB ethernet and power.

 

[loneindustries]

I have a few non-black L3 cases left that I was thinking of having re-anodized in black. I have been wanting to try hard anodizing, so just wondering if anyone would be interested in a hard black anodized L3?

UPDATE: Only one grey L3 left, so won't be worth re-anodizing after all. Still, if you think it'd be worth paying more for hard anodizing in the future, let me know. I'd personally like to give it a try. Hard anodizing is more durable, and is supposed to have deeper colors.

 

[eggDK]

Oh no! I've been putting off buying an L3 for a while, waiting for funds to come my way.. but now seeing that sold out note on the shop is making me regret my hesitation.. Will there be other chances to buy a LoneIndustries case in the future?

 

[loneindustries]

Oh no! I've been putting off buying an L3 for a while, waiting for funds to come my way.. but now seeing that sold out note on the shop is making me regret my hesitation.. Will there be other chances to buy a LoneIndustries case in the future?

There's always a chance, but currently I have no plans to produce more cases. That may change once we get into winter.

I am also seriously considering dropping the Lone Industries name.

 

[Blorgon]

There's always a chance, but currently I have no plans to produce more cases. That may change once we get into winter.

I am also seriously considering dropping the Lone Industries name.

It might be nice to start a new thread for the next version, too (if another version happens, of course).

For what it's worth, I like the name. Why are you thinking of dropping it?

 

[loneindustries]

It might be nice to start a new thread for the next version, too (if another version happens, of course).

For what it's worth, I like the name. Why are you thinking of dropping it?

I'll be sure to start a new thread for any future cases. Wish I would've for the L3.

Glad you like the name. The main reason why I've been thinking about dropping the name is because I worry about the negative connotations the name has. I was going more for the positive connotations... but not sure how many people get it.

 

[Aibohphobia]

I think the name's fine, I think of The Lone Ranger or Lone Starr when I hear the work Lone.

 

[niksus]

It sounds depressing to me. But after a few successful projects it's becoming a brand. So it's kinda difficult decision.

 

[andgo]

The GTX 950 seems to be nearing release. But no word of a low profile version yet. It will require a single 6 pin power connector, just like the GTX 960.... Might this indicate that there won't be a low profile version?

 

[Siba]

The r9 nano is announced, and AMD stated they may be allowing custom designs. Here's hoping for HHHL r9 nano that will fit in this case!

 

[rawrr]

I don't know man... Compared to the 750 ti and even the 950 (which notably does not have an LP release), the Nano seems a lot more demanding to fit on such a small PCB with a smaller fan.

 

[andgo]

They could probably fit the Fury on a low profile PCB because of HBM, and it could probably be adequately cooled if clocked low enough.

But there is no way AMD is going to create such a niche card when they could put the same chip on a larger PCB and charge a much higher price for it.

 

[loneindustries]

I think the name's fine, I think of The Lone Ranger or Lone Starr when I hear the work Lone.

It sounds depressing to me. But after a few successful projects it's becoming a brand. So it's kinda difficult decision.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll probably just leave it alone (no pun intended). Maybe through marketing (logo, writeup, etc) I can help put a positive spin on the name.

I've created a waiting list for the next batch of L3 cases, and includes colour preference. I'll probably use this to gauge interest as well:

http://eepurl.com/bxCLsn

 

[rawrr]

Anodized red would be sweet...

 

[nitrobass24]

Went to pull the trigger on two of these, but I see they are sold out.

Joined the waiting list...heres to hoping.

 

[loneindustries]

Anodized red would be sweet...

For something like red/green/blue, I'd probably only need three or four people to do it. Most people are saying they want black, silver, or grey.

Went to pull the trigger on two of these, but I see they are sold out.

Joined the waiting list...heres to hoping.

Thank you! I'm pretty optimistic that there will be another batch of cases. Before I do a batch I like to evaluate things, to see if there's anything that can be improved.

 

[chaego]

For something like red/green/blue, I'd probably only need three or four people to do it. Most people are saying they want black, silver, or grey.



Thank you! I'm pretty optimistic that there will be another batch of cases. Before I do a batch I like to evaluate things, to see if there's anything that can be improved.

Would you be able to offering different color side covers ones with vents and ones without? Originally you only offered extra covers without vents. I wouldn't mind buying two new silver covers for my black frame.

 

[raymondo]

For something like red/green/blue, I'd probably only need three or four people to do it. Most people are saying they want black, silver, or grey.

Is there an overview which colours are most popular? So one could favor the one most promising to be made if one doesn't want a black or silver one

 

[Stevo_]

There's always a chance, but currently I have no plans to produce more cases. That may change once we get into winter.

I am also seriously considering dropping the Lone Industries name.

I think the name is fine, never gave it a thought as far as dissuading me from buying a case from you. If anything I would get away from the case naming style, there's far too many letterdigit cases, L3, M1, S4, A4, and so on not to mention the big brands, ugh!

 

[iFreilicht]

I actually like the brand name a lot, and the LONE logo in particular, I'd be sad to see that name go. But I do agree that there are too many cases named in this fashion, but it kind of fits with the minimalist flair the whole lone brand has.

 

[loneindustries]

Would you be able to offering different color side covers ones with vents and ones without? Originally you only offered extra covers without vents. I wouldn't mind buying two new silver covers for my black frame.

I can't really guarantee that I could do that at this point. Would you like some photos of a black case with silver side panels on it?

Is there an overview which colours are most popular? So one could favor the one most promising to be made if one doesn't want a black or silver one

In descending order: Black, Grey, Silver

I've only seen one request for red, and one for blue. I'd like to try bronze, but it's much more expensive to try. I'd also like to try hard anodizing for black. However, unless I can get my anodizer to rack my side panels another way, I may have to seriously consider not offering anodized black again (due to visible racking marks). I also don't want to go back to powder coating, so this is a difficult issue for me.

I think the name is fine, never gave it a thought as far as dissuading me from buying a case from you. If anything I would get away from the case naming style, there's far too many letterdigit cases, L3, M1, S4, A4, and so on not to mention the big brands, ugh!

Thanks for the feedback. The letter-digit naming is just one less thing to worry about.

I actually like the brand name a lot, and the LONE logo in particular, I'd be sad to see that name go. But I do agree that there are too many cases named in this fashion, but it kind of fits with the minimalist flair the whole lone brand has.

Thank you, I appreciate that. At this point I've decided to keep using the name. It's a hassle to change it, and confusing for people also.

Also, with summer holidays over now, and also with some of the positive feedback I've received lately, I'm feeling much more inclined to produce another batch of cases. With the poor Canadian Dollar no doubt affecting the price of metal, I'm a little concerned with how I'm going to keep pricing down. However, on the plus side, that low Canadian Dollar also translates into cheaper pricing for the majority of my customers (US and international).

I am also considering producing a HDPLEX 160W bracket to sell separately, and/or include. This would also increase the cost a little, but may be a welcome addition. I still highly recommend the PicoPSU, but the HDPLEX 160W is good to have as an alternative.

 

[Shockwave818]

Having built 2 Lone cases - I'm a huge fan of the aesthetic. However, I am not a fan of external power bricks!

Any chance of fitting in one of these Meanwell AC/DC power supplies? They go for ~ 60 bucks. A bit more than a power brick, but smaller, and potentially more reliable.

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2164252.pdf

Also - I may have missed it, any reason why we got rid of the 80mm fan mounts up top from the L1/L2?

 

[iFreilicht]

Wait, if you don't anodize or powder coat, how else do you paint the cases?

I think a bracket for that converter would be a nice accessory, but it shouldn't be bundled with the case.
There have been builds using a FlexATX PSU inside an L2 IIRC, but I'm not sure if that's something you want to support OOTB.

 

[loneindustries]

Having built 2 Lone cases - I'm a huge fan of the aesthetic. However, I am not a fan of external power bricks!

Any chance of fitting in one of these Meanwell AC/DC power supplies? They go for ~ 60 bucks. A bit more than a power brick, but smaller, and potentially more reliable.

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2164252.pdf

Which PSU and bricks have you used again?

Looks like the EPP-300 could fit, but I'm not sure how you'd wire one of those up?

Wait, if you don't anodize or powder coat, how else do you paint the cases?

I think a bracket for that converter would be a nice accessory, but it shouldn't be bundled with the case.
There have been builds using a FlexATX PSU inside an L2 IIRC, but I'm not sure if that's something you want to support OOTB.

I'll have to choose one or the other. With anodizing (black in particular) there may be tiny visible rack marks on the edges of the side panels. They can be hidden using a permanent marker, or anodizing touch up pen, so it may be an acceptable compromise. Powder coating has similar racking marks, but they're in different places which are usually covered.

 

[loneindustries]

Here's an image of a 2.5 inch drive bracket and HDPLEX 160W bracket all-in-one I've been considering. Can be rotated 180 degrees, and also allows the HDPLEX 160W to be mounted in four positions.

Pros:
- Simple, one piece design makes it easier to include by default.
- Brings back the original C-shape style bracket found in the L1.
- Not noticeable if HDPLEX 160W is not used.

Cons:
- More expensive than two-piece L3 2.5 inch drive bracket.
- If you're not using any 2.5 inch drives, then has some features not used.
- Not sure how many people will actually use an HDPLEX 160W.

For those using an HDPLEX 160W, how is your double sided tape mounting holding up? What do you think?

 

[iFreilicht]

There are other small DCDC converters, too. Maybe you should include mounting holes for those as well to increase the versatility of this bracket. Also, having a bracket like this means that it's easily moddable to fit basically anything into the front the user wants just by drilling some holes.
I think this greatly increases the functionality of the case. If it doesn't cost more than 10 bucks to include, then you should think about including it by default, else make it an accessory.

 

[Siba]

How much would it increase the price by? This would have helped a ton with my previous build, the hdplex is kind of just hanging off the wires hahaha

Would it be possible to get one for my current grey L3 at a reasonable cost?

iF has a great idea with additional holes for even more compatibility and options. Maybe include a few slotted holes also, for repositioning anything that would fit in that area?

The lack of high performance half height cards is killing me right now

 

[loneindustries]

There are other small DCDC converters, too. Maybe you should include mounting holes for those as well to increase the versatility of this bracket. Also, having a bracket like this means that it's easily moddable to fit basically anything into the front the user wants just by drilling some holes.
I think this greatly increases the functionality of the case. If it doesn't cost more than 10 bucks to include, then you should think about including it by default, else make it an accessory.

Not a bad idea, but I'm not aware of any alternatives to the PicoPSU that are as good as the HDPLEX 160W (or larger 250W)?

How much would it increase the price by? This would have helped a ton with my previous build, the hdplex is kind of just hanging off the wires hahaha

Would it be possible to get one for my current grey L3 at a reasonable cost?

iF has a great idea with additional holes for even more compatibility and options. Maybe include a few slotted holes also, for repositioning anything that would fit in that area?

The lack of high performance half height cards is killing me right now

Price increase would be less than $10 I would guess, but I'm already counting on having to produce more parts to offset all the price increases I'm likely to encounter.

I would like to offer the bracket to existing customers. Quantities would be limited (I'm guessing maybe 10 extra).

Do you have an add-on card right now?

 

[Siba]

No addon card at the moment, I don't even have a build planned out yet - just got the case due to the limited supply for any future builds

Ideally I would like to get at least a mid-high range gpu for gaming in the case, but that may be a year or more off in the future

If a bracket is offered, it would be ideal to support more than just one type of psu, maybe make it more flexible with different hole configurations that can be adapted to fit with some ingenuity? Doesn't need to be perfect fit for every solution out there

 

[Shockwave818]

Which PSU and bricks have you used again?

Looks like the EPP-300 could fit, but I'm not sure how you'd wire one of those up?

I've used the picoPSU, both the 12v input and the wide range input (after I discovered that the 12v model simply passes power through). With the 12v model, I used a big expensive brick from the pico retailer, and with the wide range version I used a 19v Dell laptop brick.

The EPP-300 would only negate the need for the brick, I'd still need a DC/DC PSU (Pico). I would wire it from a IEC plug on the rear of the case to the EPP-300, then to the DC/DC PSU.

 

[chaego]

Here's an image of a 2.5 inch drive bracket and HDPLEX 160W bracket all-in-one I've been considering. Can be rotated 180 degrees, and also allows the HDPLEX 160W to be mounted in four positions.

Pros:
- Simple, one piece design makes it easier to include by default.
- Brings back the original C-shape style bracket found in the L1.
- Not noticeable if HDPLEX 160W is not used.

Cons:
- More expensive than two-piece L3 2.5 inch drive bracket.
- If you're not using any 2.5 inch drives, then has some features not used.
- Not sure how many people will actually use an HDPLEX 160W.

For those using an HDPLEX 160W, how is your double sided tape mounting holding up? What do you think?

I'm using a HDPlex 160W and looking at this I can tell you the HDPLEX mounting spots may be too close to the Hard drive mounts I would push the hard drive mount a bit further down otherwise the Sata cables will interfere with the HDPLEX PSU.

Right now I don't even use any double side tape on my HDPLEX 160 as the cables are kinda long and it pushes the PSU against the wall of the case so it stays put lol

PS I would love to see some pics of the black case with side silver panels I always loved that imac aluminum and black look.

 

[loneindustries]

If a bracket is offered, it would be ideal to support more than just one type of psu, maybe make it more flexible with different hole configurations that can be adapted to fit with some ingenuity? Doesn't need to be perfect fit for every solution out there

I've added support for the HDPLEX 250W with minimal changes, but I can't see adding holes without a specific purpose. The bracket has no clearance behind it and the front of the case, so holes by themselves wont do much good. I'm using countersunk holes. If someone wanted to modify the bracket and needed holes, it's very easy to drill holes where they need them.

The EPP-300 would only negate the need for the brick, I'd still need a DC/DC PSU (Pico). I would wire it from a IEC plug on the rear of the case to the EPP-300, then to the DC/DC PSU.

Very interesting, thanks for the info. I like that you could combine it with the PicoPSU for minimal wiring.

I'm using a HDPlex 160W and looking at this I can tell you the HDPLEX mounting spots may be too close to the Hard drive mounts I would push the hard drive mount a bit further down otherwise the Sata cables will interfere with the HDPLEX PSU.

Right now I don't even use any double side tape on my HDPLEX 160 as the cables are kinda long and it pushes the PSU against the wall of the case so it stays put lol

PS I would love to see some pics of the black case with side silver panels I always loved that imac aluminum and black look.

The bracket positions the SATA connectors opposite the HDPLEX 160W.

I tried the silver/black at work the other day, and it looked okay. I'll try to get some pics next week, or do a quick rendering.

 

[keeif]

I just stumbled up on this... this is really cool!

I'm curious, what is the possibility of adding a front HD audio I/O? Or just a headphone jack? Or is there anywhere I can purchase these and modify the case to fit it? Has anyone done this?

I have a few different headphones I like to swap around so it's something I'd like to have. I've also noticed the rear jack on the asrock z97e-itx isn't as powerful and is more flat sounding than the front panel jack.

I'm very interested in building one and have subscribed to your mailing list. I'm a bit tired of large, heavy cases that feel like anchors. I think I could survive on an i3 and 750 Ti and the next generation of GPUs are looking promising for low power builds.

 

[loneindustries]

I just stumbled up on this... this is really cool!

I'm curious, what is the possibility of adding a front HD audio I/O? Or just a headphone jack? Or is there anywhere I can purchase these and modify the case to fit it? Has anyone done this?

I have a few different headphones I like to swap around so it's something I'd like to have. I've also noticed the rear jack on the asrock z97e-itx isn't as powerful and is more flat sounding than the front panel jack.

I'm very interested in building one and have subscribed to your mailing list. I'm a bit tired of large, heavy cases that feel like anchors. I think I could survive on an i3 and 750 Ti and the next generation of GPUs are looking promising for low power builds.

Hi,

I appreciate your interest, and for subscribing to the mailing list.

I don't have any plans to add front audio jacks to this particular design. You may be able to find a "panel mount" headphone/audio jack to add to the case. You could certainly mod the case, and mount something at the front or back. I would suggest the back, as it may be hard to find an audio jack that will look good on the front.

Here's some I found. If you find something that's worth recommending, let me know:

http://ca.mouser.com/Connectors/Aud...?P=1z0yy6b&Keyword=Neutrik+phone+jack&FS=True

http://www.digikey.ca/product-searc...t=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25

http://www.jameco.com/1/3/panel-mount-audio-jack

 

[keeif]

Oh, nice! This is what I was thinking:

http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...=sGAEpiMZZMv0W4pxf2HiV3fTUvSc3cBd2jSbOSYtPwc=

It would be a bit trickier to mount - probably would have to use an adhesive but looks a lot better than the ones with the nut and thread.

Here are some more examples:

http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Au...onnectors/_/N-778cv?P=1ywoz7sZ1yzrwr8Z1z0yy6b

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/st...F+Audio%2FVideo^prodPage~15^page~SEARCH%2BNAV

I was hoping to mount it on the front. As I said, I like to swap headphones and I find it a bit tedious to reach behind and locate the plug. Looks like there's plenty of room below or above the drive with the Picos.

And I wonder about the wiring. Any sort of special shielding to prevent interference to be worried about?

Silverstone also sells these:

http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-A...qid=1452029266&sr=8-6&keywords=hd+audio+panel

I was thinking you could maybe strip out the audio jacks and it includes the wires and connectors. Or maybe even just velcro it on the side.

 

[loneindustries]

Audio interference could be a possibility. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about it to be of much help. I'd search around and see what you can find. Using shielded wiring couldn't hurt, but I'm not sure if it's necessary.

 

[iFreilicht]

To counteract interference, Intel has specified how an audio front panel has to implement filtering:

Not the easiest thing to do, but if you want good front audio, you should probably do it like this.