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List of future Intel microprocessors

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firas

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from here, and this 1 is good

I reformated it:

Desktops (click to maximize)



notebooks:



I wonder why people call’em penryns! The only place I can find Penryn is in the mobile family :confused:
The desktops are Wolfdale ,Yorkfield…etc

What exactly does “unlocked clock multiplier” mean? Is it related to OC?
And why it’s available in the Extreme models only?
I noticed in the Core 2 Extreme "Yorkfield XE" the Mult is 8x, but other models (that should have a locked clock multiplier) have 8.5/9.5 Mult

I think it’s obvious from the list that the choice would be between Q9450 and Q9550 :D
 
What exactly does “unlocked clock multiplier” mean? Is it related to OC?
And why it’s available in the Extreme models only?
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yes, on the Extream models you can raise the mulitplier UP. On the others the default is the mulitplier you listed and that is the highest multiplier that can be set. They can be adjusted down, but NOT up.

A higher multiplier lets you run the cpu faster with a lower FSB. Typically this makes it easier to overclock the cpu.

So when you shell out > $1000 for an Extream you dont feel quite as sick to your stomach when you hear your wallet scream. It is really their only major difference over the slower chips (along with some warm fuzzy that Intel has tested them at high speed). There has to be some distinction, for instance I have my E6300 OCed beyond the stock clock speed of the Extream that was in the same family, Better performance for $800 less. (This is comparing OC to stock so is not quite fair but my wallet did not care).

Very nice chart. Thanks ! Most dont have the multiplier listed so yours is very useful.
 
firas said:
I wonder why people call’em penryns! The only place I can find Penryn is in the mobile family :confused:
The desktops are Wolfdale ,Yorkfield…etc
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"Penryn" is the codename for Intel's 45nm process and covers all of the 45nm CPU's.
 
this is only a list of "future" intel processors, and that one is available now (although in a way it's not available because of the "extreme" price)
 
firas said:
I wonder why people call’em penryns! The only place I can find Penryn is in the mobile family :confused:
The desktops are Wolfdale ,Yorkfield…etc
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I'm guessing because Penryn was developed first, and Wolfdale/Yorkfield is based off of that development.
 
Code: 
Core 2 Duo E8190 		2667 MHz 	6144 KiB 	1333 MT/s 	8x 		65 W 	LGA 775 	January 2008 		$163
Core 2 Duo E8200 		2667 MHz 	6144 KiB 	1333 MT/s 	8x 		65 W 	LGA 775 	January 2008 		$163
WTF
all rook same
 
ZXQ said:
No fucking price cuts anywhere in the future :( AMD needs to get in the game
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Exactly!The lack of competition is against everyone's interest.Even the industry's sooner or later.

So, even if you are an Intel fanboy better hope AMD gets in the game soon.
 
mjz_5 said:
wouldn't lower FSB cpu's be easier to overclock?
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not really.

Well, it depends on how the manufacture puts out a CPU series...

Say rumor got out that a new flagship Intel chip came out, and of course it would have a main stream counterpart. Well, if someone discovered that the only difference between the two chips was intel underclocking the mainstream chip, then, sure, the lower FSB would be easier to overclock.

But, that'll never happen.

(please dont nit pick my post. I really dont wanna go into batch qualities and all that jazz.)
 
Very good list OP. Descriptive and easy to read. Cookie to you.

They whole core based 45nm linup is called penryn because, well, because thats what the 45nm line was first talked about under. Same as the core based 65nm linup was discussed under the merom name. Thats what was talked about first. Same as the Nehalem/45nm lineup is being talked about as Nehalem, but we know the desktop (bloomfield) server, mobile names (which escape me at the moment).

Unlocked clock multi means you can adjust the multiplyer. The clock is equal to FSB * multi, and the only difference between parts of the same linup are the multis being used for each bin. Unlocked multis allow the user much more freedom in overclocking. So instead of using 500*8 to reach 4.0Ghz you can do something more reasonable like 400*10 to reach the same result.

DemonDiablo penryn is the mobile part codename. The server line has 2 names, one for 1 way and another 2+ way, IIRC. I dont remember either of them off the top of my head.

Eradan- I dont see the Q9650 on there either. Should be a 3.0Ghz (3.16?) part IIRC.

/me can hardly wait for bloomfield.
 
Menelmarar said:
Code: 
Core 2 Duo E8190 		2667 MHz 	6144 KiB 	1333 MT/s 	8x 		65 W 	LGA 775 	January 2008 		$163
Core 2 Duo E8200 		2667 MHz 	6144 KiB 	1333 MT/s 	8x 		65 W 	LGA 775 	January 2008 		$163
WTF
all rook same
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E8190 will not support virtualization or contain Intel's Trust Execution Technology.
 
BillParrish said:
yes, on the Extream models you can raise the mulitplier UP. On the others the default is the mulitplier you listed and that is the highest multiplier that can be set. They can be adjusted down, but NOT up.

A higher multiplier lets you run the cpu faster with a lower FSB. Typically this makes it easier to overclock the cpu.

So when you shell out > $1000 for an Extream you dont feel quite as sick to your stomach when you hear your wallet scream. It is really their only major difference over the slower chips (along with some warm fuzzy that Intel has tested them at high speed). There has to be some distinction, for instance I have my E6300 OCed beyond the stock clock speed of the Extream that was in the same family, Better performance for $800 less. (This is comparing OC to stock so is not quite fair but my wallet did not care).

Very nice chart. Thanks ! Most dont have the multiplier listed so yours is very useful.
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From now and forward its different. Have yet not seen any Yorkfield ES or not do over 470-480FSB.
Thats means the Extreme is worth the money since no mainstream Yorkfield can reach where the extreme can do an easy walk to and not even push the FSB or memory at all.
Wolfdale is easy to clock over 500FSB but it will be just as Conroe when duos hit high but quads show power at lower speeds.
With 1600FSB on next gen CPU it will be even more difficult to do good speeds on cheap CPU:s, meaning hit where extremes can walk to.
 
GLSauron said:
Very good list OP. Descriptive and easy to read. Cookie to you.

They whole core based 45nm linup is called penryn because, well, because thats what the 45nm line was first talked about under. Same as the core based 65nm linup was discussed under the merom name. Thats what was talked about first. Same as the Nehalem/45nm lineup is being talked about as Nehalem, but we know the desktop (bloomfield) server, mobile names (which escape me at the moment).
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Weren' t the first round of NGMA processors referred to as Conroe rather than Merom before launch?



E.R said:
From now and forward its different. Have yet not seen any Yorkfield ES or not do over 470-480FSB.
Thats means the Extreme is worth the money since no mainstream Yorkfield can reach where the extreme can do an easy walk to and not even push the FSB or memory at all.
Wolfdale is easy to clock over 500FSB but it will be just as Conroe when duos hit high but quads show power at lower speeds.
With 1600FSB on next gen CPU it will be even more difficult to do good speeds on cheap CPU:s, meaning hit where extremes can walk to.
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That is until we get boards that are hitting 600-800MHz FSB's easily.
 
E.R said:
From now and forward its different. Have yet not seen any Yorkfield ES or not do over 470-480FSB.
Thats means the Extreme is worth the money since no mainstream Yorkfield can reach where the extreme can do an easy walk to and not even push the FSB or memory at all.
Wolfdale is easy to clock over 500FSB but it will be just as Conroe when duos hit high but quads show power at lower speeds.
With 1600FSB on next gen CPU it will be even more difficult to do good speeds on cheap CPU:s, meaning hit where extremes can walk to.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say "Extreme is worth the money." A regular CPU + good aircooling will be 30-50% of the price and get you 90-95% of the performance.
 
IMO, spending $1500 on just a CPU is nuts. The way the technology moves you won't be able to even take advantage of it's power until something better and cheaper comes out. If you're filthy rich go for it, I would, but other than that you're not investing your money wisely.
 
Intel seems to be already showing signs of market monopoly.

The quad cores Yorkfields listed have a lower multi with higher FSB of 1333 ...relating to lower OC's on these 45nm chips. Its well established fact that most of these new chips can do close to 4GHz and above on air cooling.

Most well built mobos can handle 450 FSB for daily use .. with 480-490 seemingly the limit on most. Anything higher requires more voltage w/ more heat o/p, and is not a smart move.

Take the 'value' quads for instance..
Q9300 --> 450 x 7.5 = 3375
Q9450 --> 450 x 8.0 = 3600

While these are good OC's they are nowhere close to the best that these chips can do. Seems like a subtle way of telling you to upgrade that spanking new mobo...
 
ryan_975 said:
Weren' t the first round of NGMA processors referred to as Conroe rather than Merom before launch?
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Old thread but Ill bite.
As I recall the Merom name was used for a very long time. Then we heard about the Conroe name and people started switching to using that for about 3-6 months before release. Maybe its just because I was focusing on the mobile sector.

Kind've like how we've heard nehalem for a long time, but now people are starting to use the proper names, bloomfield, lynnfield, clarksfield, auburndale, (-field being the quads, -dale being the duals,) etc.
 
though its old I’ll add another list I made recently

Enthusiasts Most Wanted CPU’s:
processorshq5.jpg


Delete E6850 for the Q6600
Delete Q6600 B3 for the G0
Delete Q6700 cuz performance difference doesn’t worth the price
Delete Q9550 for the same reason

remaining (65nm):Q6600 (GO)

remaining (45nm):Dual:
E8400 and E8500
Quad:
Q9300 and Q9450

$50 is a serious number and does make a difference is choosing a CPU
but in the Q9300/Q9450 case this price difference shouldn’t make a problem cuz Q9450 is too sexy to waste for $50
 
GLSauron said:
Old thread but Ill bite.
As I recall the Merom name was used for a very long time. Then we heard about the Conroe name and people started switching to using that for about 3-6 months before release. Maybe its just because I was focusing on the mobile sector.

Kind've like how we've heard nehalem for a long time, but now people are starting to use the proper names, bloomfield, lynnfield, clarksfield, auburndale, (-field being the quads, -dale being the duals,) etc.
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Wow, I didn't even notice the date. It popped up in "New Posts" so I read it and responded.

I don't seem to remember hearing about Merom until March or April of 2006, while Conroe I'd heard of in late 2004, albeit still under the Netburst roadmap.
 
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