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Linux Edges Out MacOS on NetMarketShare

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Linux has trumped MacOS in NetMarketShare’s latest desktop operating system report: its market share was at 3.37% last month, while MacOS was at 5.94%. Now, Linux is on top at 6.91%, with MacOS falling behind at 6.78%.
 
Jim Kim said:
This will be the year that linux overtakes windows.
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According to this graph, ChromeOS is the by far the most used OS ever!

If you look at the other graph of Desktop by Version and add up all the versions of OSX that are available, it comes out at almost parity with Linux (6.91% vs 6.77%).
 
MacOS is to Operating Systems as Bitcoin is to Currency You Can Actually Buy Shit With.
 
Googles ChromeOS distro is going to push the needle going forward. I fully expect the stat sites will report Linux around 20% at least by the end of 2018. What will be fun is seeing the stat sites that refuse to count ChromeOS as a distro will continue to show Linux with 3-5%.
 
As someone who has been a daily linux driver for over a decade I still call BS. I've met literally 3-4 other persons who use Linux even briefly as a desktop OS and I work in tech circles. Where are these people and maybe it is counting servers as desktop since there is no real differentiation there.
 
JosiahBradley said:
As someone who has been a daily linux driver for over a decade I still call BS. I've met literally 3-4 other persons who use Linux even briefly as a desktop OS and I work in tech circles. Where are these people and maybe it is counting servers as desktop since there is no real differentiation there.
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Not in the states, is where they are.
 
Jim Kim said:
This will be the year that linux overtakes windows.
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No, but it will be the year windows continues shooting itself in the foot while adoption of 10 remains at a stand still.

Overall windows is in decline, so it's now just a question of whether MS is willing to make some concessions and pull back on the stick as hard as they can to control the descent, or continuing to keep the nose pointed at the ground and inviting destiny to come early.
 
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JosiahBradley said:
As someone who has been a daily linux driver for over a decade I still call BS. I've met literally 3-4 other persons who use Linux even briefly as a desktop OS and I work in tech circles. Where are these people and maybe it is counting servers as desktop since there is no real differentiation there.
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Laptop? Linux all the way (Ubuntu MATE right now).

Desktop? No, sorry. Windows 7 rules that roost for me.

Just as a note, my job isn't remotely IT related.
 
DPI said:
No, but it will be the year windows continues shooting itself in the foot while adoption of 10 remains at a stand still.

Overall windows is in decline, so it's now just a question of whether MS is willing to make some concessions and pull back on the stick as hard as they can to control the descent, or continuing to keep the nose pointed at the ground and inviting destiny to come early.
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Windows 10 is what got me to switch to Linux. Due to the collusion between Intel and Microsoft and their "Windows 10 only on 7th gen chips." I think not. My new laptop with a 7th gen chip got wiped and a fresh install of CentOS. I am now looking to migrate my desktop from Windows 8.1 to Linux + VFIO for gaming. Way to go Satya Nadella. I'm starting to think he's worse than Ballmer.
 
Their stats are all over the place and at this moment it's showing Linux dropping to 0% market share, I wouldn't trust those stats at all, and it just changed again literally in the span of a minute or so to about 4.9%.

That site must be hammered today from posting those stats and their shit is breaking. :D
 
DPI said:
No, but it will be the year windows continues shooting itself in the foot while adoption of 10 remains at a stand still.
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It's almost as if Microsoft wants windows to fail.

I've been running into more problems with Windows 7 updates and slowdowns.
Meanwhile Windows 10 updates keep causing other problem by making random changes that cause certain apps not to run.
 
JosiahBradley said:
As someone who has been a daily linux driver for over a decade I still call BS. I've met literally 3-4 other persons who use Linux even briefly as a desktop OS and I work in tech circles. Where are these people and maybe it is counting servers as desktop since there is no real differentiation there.
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These stats must be artificially inflated by bots and scrapers or something. You can't have that much change in margin over just a month.
 
Since being reviewed the figure has dropped to a more reasonable, and believeable, 4.9%.

Remember when IBM was untouchable with underhanded business tactics?
 
JosiahBradley said:
As someone who has been a daily linux driver for over a decade I still call BS. I've met literally 3-4 other persons who use Linux even briefly as a desktop OS and I work in tech circles. Where are these people and maybe it is counting servers as desktop since there is no real differentiation there.
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Funny, I have experienced the contrary.

My company has over 20K computers thorough out the country alone and is a 90+% windows based, yet, I have bumped into a lot of Linux installs, used in production desktops.

That alone should tell that they are indeed out there.

Now, they are still outnumbered by the Macs we have, so perhaps you do have a point in there.

Now, lets say that the published numbers are correct, I will like to see which excuse would Adobe and microsoft use to continue holding on releasing photoshop or office on linux.

At this point, the market share excuse is not valid, if is real.
 
Year of the Linux Desktop! Woooooo. ROFL.
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Next you'll tell me there's a port of the Witcher 3 for Linux...

The witcher 2 has a port but not the Witcher 3....

I'm still forced to use Windows if I want to play most games.
 
I know zero people that run Linux, a few that run MacOS, and the rest are Windows.
I myself have ran Linux briefly, once 10 years or so ago, and last year when I was trying to get an Alienware M9700 laptop going.
I do have a MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, but they usually just sit around with no real use.

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Zepher said:
I know zero people that run Linux, a few that run MacOS, and the rest are Windows.
I myself have ran Linux briefly, once 10 years or so ago, and last year when I was trying to get an Alienware M9700 laptop going.
I do have a MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, but they usually just sit around with no real use.
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Please tell me you snapped that pic with your Android Phone... as the irony would be wonderful.

I know plenty of people running Linux desktops... so there we offset.
 
ChadD said:
Please tell me you snapped that pic with your Android Phone... as the irony would be wonderful.

I know plenty of people running Linux desktops... so there we offset.
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iOS phone.
 
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Zepher said:
I know zero people that run Linux, a few that run MacOS, and the rest are Windows.
I myself have ran Linux briefly, once 10 years or so ago, and last year when I was trying to get an Alienware M9700 laptop going.
I do have a MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, but they usually just sit around with no real use.

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I know that personally I'm now convinced that Linux will never go anywhere as a result of this single comment [not].
 
It was actually 13 years ago when I first tried Linux,

look how old those machines are,
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I run a IT Support company with a varied user base and have yet to see a pure Linux desktop machine in the wild, other than one I built for shits and giggles and used for 10 minutes before I found something better to do.

I'm sure they are out there though.
 
Zepher said:
It was actually 13 years ago when I first tried Linux,

look how old those machines are,
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I'm impressed by your Linux history, but it's no longer 2003 and a great many skeptics get stuck in the past when it comes to Linux. The main thing that impresses me about that pic is the Amiga 3000T, I'd give my left arm for that machine.

Do I personally know anyone that uses Linux? Surprisingly, yes I do! Is there evidence that Linux awareness and adoption is growing? Yes there is. Did the CEO of MS claim the other week that Windows usage is actually declining? Yes he did.

If we forget about Adobe for a second, as the skeptic in me can't help but believe that they're being 'looked after' to keep their software away from Linux, the amount of software available cross platform between macOS, Linux and Windows is amazing. Not only that but alternative office suites are improving all the time to the point where I personally have no use for MS Office anymore and there are now so many gaming titles thanks to Valve that I honestly haven't got the time to play them all - And video drivers have improved to the point where the Nvidia packages are now on par with their Windows counterparts and the AMD Mesa drivers aren't far behind.

Apple are pricing macOS out of the marketplace, I know that personally I use a 2012 Mac Mini as it's one of the best Macs ever made and it's not going to last forever - When it dies, chances are my use of macOS will die with it as there is no way I'm paying the overinflated prices for Apple hardware that cannot be expanded.

Globally, OS usage is beginning to shift - And I, for one, find it very exciting. A great many people I talk to now know of Linux, that was never the case just five years ago.
 
As long as Windows rules the business/enterprise PC segment, it will rule all other PC segments. Consumers mostly operate off of continuity/familiarity between home and work PCs.
 
BulletDust said:
The main thing that impresses me about that pic is the Amiga 3000T, I'd give my left arm for that machine.
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You can keep your arm, but I would take cash for it. It's sitting in the attic waiting for someone to buy it.
 
"Linux" is really too vague a description to be meaningful. I imagine this scenario:

"Linux" finally achieve status where you can buy a computer at BB with "Linux" pre-installed. Since it is cheaper, the mindless computer user buys it. Not sure how to use it, but knowing it is Linux, you call up your buddy who "knows" "Linux."
You: Hey, I just got this new computer with Linux on it, but I really don't know what to do. I'm at the desktop screen, but I can't figure out how to get to any programs!
Friend: Ok, look for the little footprint thing at the lower left corner and click on it.
You: I don't see a footprint. I see what looks like a K over a gear
Friend: Oh, snap! You're using KDE. I only use GNOME, and don't know KDE at all. Sorry bro, I can't help you!

Let me know when a single Linux desktop distribution achieves market share over OS X, and then I'll take notice.
 
Someone didn't like September results, they have been removed :)
 
nutzo said:
It's almost as if Microsoft wants windows to fail.

I've been running into more problems with Windows 7 updates and slowdowns.
Meanwhile Windows 10 updates keep causing other problem by making random changes that cause certain apps not to run.
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I think Microsoft is counting on the fact most people ignored closed eco systems that spy on you like iOS and Android.

But the change in the windows OS is much more pervasive and obvious. It's like switching from an electric trimmer to a razor blade that will eventually nickle and dime you, despite how nice it is.

I thought about switching off to linux. I really don't have time for much gaming any more. But I do love my steam when it's there. So the big computer is only used for word processing, surfing, plex, compiling, and steam. I can replace 3 of 5 with linux easy.
 
jardows said:
"Linux" is really too vague a description to be meaningful. I imagine this scenario:

"Linux" finally achieve status where you can buy a computer at BB with "Linux" pre-installed. Since it is cheaper, the mindless computer user buys it. Not sure how to use it, but knowing it is Linux, you call up your buddy who "knows" "Linux."
You: Hey, I just got this new computer with Linux on it, but I really don't know what to do. I'm at the desktop screen, but I can't figure out how to get to any programs!
Friend: Ok, look for the little footprint thing at the lower left corner and click on it.
You: I don't see a footprint. I see what looks like a K over a gear
Friend: Oh, snap! You're using KDE. I only use GNOME, and don't know KDE at all. Sorry bro, I can't help you!

Let me know when a single Linux desktop distribution achieves market share over OS X, and then I'll take notice.
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This is an argument Windows users constantly harp on about, in the real world it's rarely an issue. Consider the Chrome icon, it doesn't change no matter what the platform and everyone can identify a menu. I used to have a link pointing to a study the Australian government did on switching users to Linux, the impact was literally negligible - People didn't have an issue adopting the OS at all and this was way back in 2005. I should see if I can find it.
 
Zepher said:
You can keep your arm, but I would take cash for it. It's sitting in the attic waiting for someone to buy it.
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Let me guess, you live in the US? The cost of postage would be outrageous I'm assuming.

Have you removed the battery from it?
 
BulletDust said:
Let me guess, you live in the US? The cost of postage would be outrageous I'm assuming.

Have you removed the battery from it?
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ya in the US and no, I haven't removed the battery. Since the board is mounted vertically, hopefully it didn't leak on anything if it did leak.
I am going to have my brother grab it out of the attic for me since I can't lift or move it since my disability.
Want to make sure everything is working and exactly what is in it. It's been so long since I used it I can't remember.

this thing must weigh 40lbs or so, so shipping overseas would cost you your arm, lol.

this was the last time I fired it up,
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BulletDust said:
This is an argument Windows users constantly harp on about, in the real world it's rarely an issue. Consider the Chrome icon, it doesn't change no matter what the platform and everyone can identify a menu. I used to have a link pointing to a study the Australian government did on switching users to Linux, the impact was literally negligible - People didn't have an issue adopting the OS at all and this was way back in 2005. I should see if I can find it.
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I would assume that they used the same distribution throughout the test? My argument was not on the ease of transitioning from Windows to any particular distribution of Linux, it is based on the differences between the different distributions. Let me be a little less hyperbolic in my illustration. If Jonny Q Public calls you for support on his Linux computer, and you need to direct him to the terminal to do some commands because something isn't working with the desktop environment, what do you do when you tell him to "sudo apt get" and he returns an error. You find out that instead of running Ubuntu, the caller is running Fedora?

OS X is OS X, and the basic tools have remained the same throughout the run. FreeBSD is FreeBSD, Windows is Windows. Different versions have slight changes, but the base way it works is still the same. You cannot say the same for "Linux." Remember, Linux is just a kernel, and what is usable is the distribution. How you manage and configure Fedora, Debian, Slackware, or Arch based distributions is significantly different enough that you cannot just say "Linux" has a greater market share, so it's poised to take over as a major desktop OS. Let me know when one of the individual distributions has greater marketshare than OS X, and I'll be impressed.
 
Oh man, those monitors remind me to the old Sony Trinitons 17" I used until 2006. Heavy, hot, bulky, ...
 
Linux on desktop I gave up, only as "server" and cruncher.
UI mainly macOS and occasionally Windows 8 or 10. Get my daily dose of Windows at work anyway.
 
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