Zarathustra[H]
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Why not try Debian Sid?
Because it's an unstable branch?
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Why not try Debian Sid?
Its strange I have heard that about Ubuntu based distros for some reason. I always just assumed it was people running kernels older then 4.19 or something. But clearly as you say that isn't the only issue. I have built 3 2200g systems at this point .... all running Manjaro and have run into zero issues. 2 are on Asus board and one (the one I'm on now) is on a gigabyte board. Ya if its not kernel or mesa related... I wonder if its some other semi common ryzen board part that is causing the stability issues.
I'm building a 2200g system on an Asrock B450M Pro4 in a few days for my mom. I was going to put Mint on it as it's what I use, but seeing the hiccups that seem to not be resolved with Mint/Ryzen I've decided to go with Manjaro. Did you encounter any issues during the install (drivers/gfx/etc.) that I might run into?
Got Mint working....until it froze. Appears freezing hasn't been solved as I've seen others having it on recent kernels (4.18+) so I tossed Manjaro Cinnamon on. So far so good. Not sure why ubuntu appears to be plagued by freezing issues. I remember years ago trying ubuntu out only to have constant freezing and I was fine the last couple of years with Mint, but alas the freezing is back.
Got Mint working....until it froze. Appears freezing hasn't been solved as I've seen others having it on recent kernels (4.18+) so I tossed Manjaro Cinnamon on. So far so good. Not sure why ubuntu appears to be plagued by freezing issues. I remember years ago trying ubuntu out only to have constant freezing and I was fine the last couple of years with Mint, but alas the freezing is back.
VeraCryptA notable complication is that this laptop has Secure Boot and encrypts the Windows partition, which I do not want to unencrypt. It's a portable device, I won't compromise built-in security.
VeraCrypt
Why would you need Secure Boot?That does the encryption part, but it doesn't work with Secure Boot. Which is... the point. That means that stuff like Manjaro and Pop OS are out on this machine (I use them on others, but spend most time here).
Why would you need Secure Boot?
Fair enough, I just don't see any practical benefit security wise and there are annoying downsides.Because it's built-in security for a mobile device. I could give a rats for most systems, but I'm not turning it off on this one.
Fair enough, I just don't see any practical benefit security wise and there are annoying downsides.
Got Mint working....until it froze. Appears freezing hasn't been solved as I've seen others having it on recent kernels (4.18+) so I tossed Manjaro Cinnamon on. So far so good. Not sure why ubuntu appears to be plagued by freezing issues. I remember years ago trying ubuntu out only to have constant freezing and I was fine the last couple of years with Mint, but alas the freezing is back.
When Mint froze, when Ubuntu froze, did you actually go through the log files to see what the issue was? There's not much point swapping distro's when you could very well have a simple driver issue, as freezing isn't common under Ubuntu.
You can access the logs using a live cd/usb at will. You don't need a booting system to do that.The Ubuntu issue was years ago and was my first attempt at using linux and so I had little knowledge of where to begin to resolve the problem. The Mint issue occurred just recently on a new build for my mom and well, even if I wanted the logs, the system would freeze up before I had a chance to grab logs. The first boot up went okay so I had no reason to suspect anything was wrong. Subsequent bootups all froze before I could do anything. I'm sure it'll be resolved in the future, if it hasn't already, but I still use Mint on my system without problems.
You can access the logs using a live cd/usb at will. You don't need a booting system to do that.
Thanks for the tip. I'm still fairly green when it comes to troubleshooting linux issues. The computer in question was a new build for a family member that needed something working immediately.
Once you get used to Linux, you'll be working on Windows systems thinking "if this was Linux diagnosing this fault would be so much easier!"...
If only that were the reality...
It's nice to have the logs to diagnose all of the additional faults though. Because here I am with my fifth distro install in a week that has broken sound. Still haven't narrowed it down; it's just an eventuality of running Linux on the hardware. Ubuntu 19.04 this time.
There's nothing difficult about diagnosing issues under Linux in comparison to any other operating system. You've been mucking around with this sound problem since forever, aren't you using some form of USB DAC?
Standard onboard Realtek.
What gets me is that when it 'fails', I get about one second of audio, then another second at half volume or one channel, then it's gone. Alsamixer and so on report everything A-OK.
Realtek, that's the problem.
The day Realtek support Linux and we get something better than reverse engineered Windows drivers will be the day Adobe grow a pair and start releasing their CC for Linux.
I have always hated realtek. Even their windows drivers seem crappy and bloated and the icon crab is ugly.
I was just about to say I have Realtek sound and never had any problems but then checked to make sure and I have Intel sound. It's an Intel desktop board so it figures.
You actually have both. Intel Azalia (old name) HD Audio (new name) is the platform side of it, and then board / system builders use a DAC chip of some sort, typically and almost exclusively from Realtek, but there are others.
Want to make it more confusing- my Z370 board has Creative audio, but it's actually Creative software playing through the Intel HD Audio --> Realtek chain. It's also pretty good, and I like that it works through optical to my balanced DAC.
So what is the difference between Kubuntu and KDE Neon?Just built a development machine to test KDE Neon 5.16 and I have to say I'm very impressed. Everything about the current state of KDE just oozes polish and productivity.
Might be switching my main PC over to this release as soon as I get the chance. Totally recommended.
Furthermore, I ordered a $20.00 USB 'sound card' and it works perfectly with Linux - In fact it sounds great. Also running fractional scaling at 4k under X and the only application to have a problem is Teamviewer, possibly something to do with the fact that it's running in a Wine wrapper?
So what is the difference between Kubuntu and KDE Neon?
I just moved one of my machines to Pop OS to try it out, as well as to see how well it handles Optimus. Still playing with things, and I am not sure if i like it. It seems nothing does the "auto-switching" of Optimus very well. Might look at this next.
I just moved one of my machines to Pop OS to try it out, as well as to see how well it handles Optimus. Still playing with things, and I am not sure if i like it. It seems nothing does the "auto-switching" of Optimus very well. Might look at this next.
So what is the difference between Kubuntu and KDE Neon?
I just moved one of my machines to Pop OS to try it out, as well as to see how well it handles Optimus. Still playing with things, and I am not sure if i like it. It seems nothing does the "auto-switching" of Optimus very well. Might look at this next.
KDE Neon updates KDE to the latest shiny build when released but is Ubuntu LTS underneath.
The whole rebooting thing is what annoys me. So far, it looks like that is the least objectionable of the options.Let me know how it goes. It works fine with my M3800 that has a K1000M and Intel integrated. I have to reboot when I switch, but its still switchable.