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Lian Li Quality

i think lian li's are functionality wise one of the best out there. Coolermaster cases are on par with quality of build and style, of course. One minor gripe of my PC-65 is that it buzzes like NO OTHER. I haven't taken the time to fix it up, so it's really my fault, but with a full w/c set up inside the case it's hard to get my hands in there...
 
Part of what makes CM's cases like the Praet a bit more sturdier is just the design itself. Sure, the drive cages aren't removable... but the fact that they're made of solid pannels that run the lenght of the case makes it a bit sturdier overall imo.

The Al on CMs may be a bit thicker than on other cases as well, I dunno if that's why some complain about rattling on Lian Li's or if they simply don't have as flush a mounting system for them. On a sidenote, Praetorians seem to be on short supply lately... I heard CM was coming out with a new line by X-mas but I've seen no mention of it, anyone got news?
 
I am in agreement with the dubious quality.

I just sold my PC61B because of it's flimsy design... the back panel on the motherboard tray was apparently bent at an ever slightly high angle from the manufacturer that it would not allow me to install any PCI cards whatsoever, and took FAR too much persuasion to secure an AGP card into the motherboard slot properly.

Now, don't get me wrong, I loved the design of the case, the generous use of thumbscrews, and the awesome aesthetics of the simplistic, brushed aluminum exterior, but when I can't even install my $90 Audigy or my $50 wireless LAN card in it, it sort of negates all that, you know?

BTW, I bought a Tt Tsunami and I personally think the build quality is far superior. Much more sturdy and still manages to be very light, however the lack of a removeable motherboard tray is a big flaw especially given the placement of the accessory ports on top will not allow you to install/remove a PSU with the motherboard/cpu/hsf in place.
 
Cheap quality? Well, if they are cheap in quality, I haven't noticed it on my PC71. Spacious, sufficient space for appropriate air flow, light & clean-looking.

Would I say they are made cheap? Compared to my SX1040, it does flex slightly, but its' not like the case is going to collapse in on itself. Also, the SX1040 weighs double as much and has no flex at all, but it's made from steel versus the PC71's aluminium.

Would I recommend one? For anyone looking for something that's impressive looking & spacious, while not taking on the "flashy vegas look", it's a chassis to consider.
 
here is a picture of the thin, cheap aluminum that LianLi uses (quarter for comparison)

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:rolleyes:
 
Thatonen00b said:
Try getting an ic7-max3 or a thermalright sp-94 and you will see that 478's heading towards dead. Both discontinued and you won't find them anywhere but fs/ft threads or ebay, and imo they were two of the top 478 related prodcuts. You can still get DFI and ASUS 875 boards, but who knows how long they will last.
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That is hilarious! ..I may not know what he's talking about but I find it hilarious when people just talk about a totally different subject. It really relieves the tension in these forums :D

st4rk said:
i still wanna know why everyone hates those tsunami cases
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I like Lian Li cases because they look so simple, especially SDK's lian li. It's just so nice... :p
I was going to purchase a Lian Li case, but after reading this thread, I'm not quite sure. I got my heart set on one after looking at SDK's case, but after hearing about this flimsy-ness..I can't make up my mind. I wish the world made it so that simpler looking cases = cheaper prices while fancy dancy cases with buttons and gadgets everywhere = more expensive ( which is true right? ). That'd be awsome...

Edit: Wow, now that I took a look at the Praetorian case, I'm not too sure which case I want now. Do they sell one with a window?
 
Have a Lian Li 82 and it is wonderful. Feautre set is still unmatched, even by those 270 buck Silverstones! 5 80mm fans, slide out mobo tray, fan speen controller on the two front 80 mm, easily removable PS, front fan filter, thumb screws on just about everything and wiring harness for my front panel (major plus if you do alot of upgrades)... it is so sweet! I love this case!
 
mickey987 said:
I was going to purchase a Lian Li case, but after reading this thread, I'm not quite sure. I got my heart set on one after looking at SDK's case, but after hearing about this flimsy-ness..I can't make up my mind. I wish the world made it so that simpler looking cases = cheaper prices while fancy dancy cases with buttons and gadgets everywhere = more expensive ( which is true right? ). That'd be awsome...
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does a ricerocket have the same performance as a porsche? the ricerocket has the bling, and the porsche is relatively non-chalant. which one would you want?

but i'd say that people who dislike the lian-li are more an anomaly than anything else. i find the lian-li's to be of the utmost quality, i spend 90 bucks on it, and love it. i don't need to, want to, upgrade for a long long time.
 
mickey987 said:
Edit: Wow, now that I took a look at the Praetorian case, I'm not too sure which case I want now. Do they sell one with a window?
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They sell window pannels separately, not sure if anyone sells the case with the window included... I know Newegg has/had the window sidepannel in all three colors (silver, black, and blue since there's a blue version of the Wavemaster which is the same as the Praet but with a different front bezzel and one less 5.25 bay).
 
Bought a PC1000V recently and love it. I'm very partial to LianLi's minimalist asthetic, and while the perforated face is a ripoff of Apple's G5, I still like it. Build quality is superb. The only annoyance is the MB tray cannot be removed, but since I upgrade once every two years or so, this is rendered a very minor issue.
 
The ONLY thing I wish Lian-Li would improve upon, and I've got a PC75b - is the damn mobo mounts. They are the cheapest crap in the world. I'd rather have the brass standoffs like antec and chieftec cases have than that crap the Lian Li cases have.

That's my only gripe.
 
Im currently in the process of modding my first lian-li and im pretty much impressed with it. Im working on a pc-60b. The quality seems good to me, just wish for the money they would include maybe some better fans and grills, and make the lower hd rack completely removable, without leaving a big clumsy bracket riveted to the bottom of the case.
 
For those who have tried their earlier cases and aren't happy should definitely take a look at those new V-series models. I think Lian-Li has improved the quality and construction on these new cases compared to their earlier ones. While they have great quality, I think Lian-Li should work on creating its own distinct style. The G5 look is great but that is still copying.
 
I own a Lian-Li PC-68, and personally in my opinion, the only greater case in terms of craftsmanship, aesthetics, and functionality is the Lian-Li V series.

Seriously folks, the Lian-Li's got it all - removable motherboard tray, removable HDD cage, thumbscrews up the wazoo, four 80mm fans, a fan filter (and easy to clean at that), not a single sharp edge throughout the entire product, what's not to like? And as far as the flimsyness is concerned, non-existant in the PC-68.

Edit: I forgot to mention the built in 3-speed fan control, up front USB ports, 100% annodized aluminum construction ( = incredibly light weight), tons of room, and excellent modability.
 
To answer your question "what's not to like".. from my experience.

1 Fans use plastic studs
2 Use of 4 8cm fans (low overall cfm, high overall noise)
3 Poor wire management
4 Motherboard uses cheap metal clips
5 Flimsy alum. construction of motherboard tray (could not install any PCI cards!)
6 Use of PSU faceplate

Don't get me wrong, I didn't HATE the Lian Li, but I WAS thoroughly dissapointed with these cons which is what led me to buy the Tsunami, which now has..

1. Clip-in fan mounts
2. 2 120mm fans
3. Hole behind PSU to hide wires, tons of space behind drive cages to hide wires
4. Motherboard uses standard brass standoffs
5. Strong aluminum where it counts, thin aluminum on the sides to save weight (no problem installing cards!)
6. Standard PSU mount

Not to mention it has more space (slightly taller), it looks better with the wave design and BRILLIANT auto. paint, it has nice subtle LED lighting, and the use of a thick alum. door not only hides the drives, but it also quiets the drives while they are spinning. In fact the only thing the Lian Li had over the Tsunami was the built-in fan controller, however because I used the stock fans, the controller did nothing in the way of silencing the case anyway. Turning it to low made absolutely no difference.

Just my $.02.
 
I just bought a Tsunami Dream, after someone mentioned it in this thread, and some people said that they are ugly, I was intrigued to take a look at such an "ugly case".

Well it's sitting right next to me, and boy do I love it. I've gone through 4 cases on this main rig in under 2 years. My last case was a thermaltake case, can't remember the name of it but needless to say it weighed twice as much as this Tsunami does, even when loaded. When unloaded the Tsunami is 3 times lighter, and 5 times better looking.

I also had one of those cheap "guardian" cases, that look like a transformer on the front. That is currently sitting behind my couch collecting dust ($100+).

I am extremely satisfied with this Tsunami, the wire hiding was easy and the inside is shiny aluminum, not dull steel. It's very sleek, the only bad thing is the toolless pci/agp card things. They are colored purple and bright green, seriously wtf is that?! They should be aluminum, at least black plastic.

My friend has a Lian-Li, and I must say it is very nice and simple looking. I defnitely wouldn't pay that much for a Lian-Li though, just because it doesn't seem as functional as my Tsunami Dream. But case selection is all preference. I do like Lian-Li's, but I feel I got more bang for the buck - per se - with this Tsunami.
 
Stellar said:
To answer your question "what's not to like".. from my experience.
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here's my rebuttal to your argument. (disclaimer: not to say i completely disagree with what you're saying, but i'm just giving reasons as to why they're good.)

1 Fans use plastic studs - I found this to actually be good, very easy to install, and not having to bother with screws, while still maintaining a low profile. very minimal footprint.

2 Use of 4 8cm fans (low overall cfm, high overall noise) - agreed here, but then again, how many people actually use the stock fans? a panaflo or simliar fan could fix that easy enough, i would like to see some 120 mm fans on my pc-61(but that'll require some cutting which i'm just not ready for just yet. )

3 Poor wire management - somewhat agreed here, there's a couple of places where a hole would've been nice in the stock build, but with a dremel and 30 available minutes you have a couple of cuts that would easily make routing wires incredibly easy.

4 Motherboard uses cheap metal clips - i didn't notice this as much, it hasn't served as a major drawback so far as i have found.

5 Flimsy alum. construction of motherboard tray (could not install any PCI cards!) - i didn't see any problems with the mobo tray in this instance, i haven't had any problems with removing or installing various different PCI cards.

6 Use of PSU faceplate - this i found actually to be a great tool. simply attaching the faceplate to the PSU allowed for me to install and remove it easily, if i wanted to change the PSU, just detach it from the inside and slide out. screw the new PSU into the faceplate and sliding back in. again with a minimal imprint, also using the standard PSU mounts.
 
Stellar said:
To answer your question "what's not to like".. from my experience.

1 Fans use plastic studs
2 Use of 4 8cm fans (low overall cfm, high overall noise)
3 Poor wire management
4 Motherboard uses cheap metal clips
5 Flimsy alum. construction of motherboard tray (could not install any PCI cards!)
6 Use of PSU faceplate
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1. You can use screws as well the plastic studs dampen vibration.
2. The stock ADDA fans are no where near loud especially when you compair a Panaflo H1A to them.
3. The case isnt designed for wire management like a tsunami man...get over it. Besides hiding wires in a Li Lian is not hard..look around many people do it very well.. FallGuy for instance
4. The mobo mounts..ill agree with ya..they strip easy, especially when you gorilla them in there :)
5. Flimsy? Ive built more than my share of systems outta LL cases and not once have I had a problem with inserting any expansion cards into the case. Are you sure the one you had wasnt damaged in shipping?
6. Whats wrong with a PSU face plate? You do realize this is actually a real nice feature to have right? Especially to those of use who run dual PSU's we just need to mod the plate and your done. And if you ever wanna go back to a normal single supply setup just change the plate out and you are done. To be honest there is no difference between my LL PC-75b's PSU mount up than my Addronics SC7890A which was a big fuckin tank.

So your experiences could have been changed if you were not expecting to have a Lian Li Tsunami...come on man two different cases...many different features.
 
i could chunk mine down the stairs and it would be alright...not saying i would do that to my gorgous pc-65B
 
and it should also be noted, that when actually cutting the aluminum, it's harder and thicker than you might think
 
it also conducts heat nicely lol.....ouch i burned myself :(, wear safety glasses whilest cutting the cases....its not easy to clean a chunk of alum. out of your eye :mad:
 
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