Leaked Haswell-E Engineering Sample Images

[samm]

Haswell-E.....By the time its released, Skylake will be knocking on the door with a better value proposition.

 

[doz]

Haswell-E.....By the time its released, Skylake will be knocking on the door with a better value proposition.

Still not sure why everyone is comparing workstation socket/cpu to mainstream socket/cpu. Of course mainstream will be a better value than a workstation platform.

 

[samm]

Still not sure why everyone is comparing workstation socket/cpu to mainstream socket/cpu. Of course mainstream will be a better value than a workstation platform.

Like this you mean:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/08/30/intel_ivy_bridgee_core_i74960x_ipc_ocing_review#.UqvglfRDvEk

The reason most compare a workstation socket/CPU to mainstream socket/cpu is because (Choose your liking )

1)They are the latest offerings (well in the future at least) from Intel.
2)They`re both released to the non-server consumer market.
3)They`re are both released to enthusiasts builders.
4)They`re both gonna be the first CPU's to support the next generation of Memory tech.
5) They`re both overclockable (at least the Ks)
6) They`re both CPUs (my personal favorite)

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Like this you mean:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/08/30/intel_ivy_bridgee_core_i74960x_ipc_ocing_review#.UqvglfRDvEk

The reason most compare a workstation socket/CPU to mainstream socket/cpu is because (Choose your liking )

1)They are the latest offerings (well in the future at least) from Intel.
2)They`re both released to the non-server consumer market.
3)They`re are both released to enthusiasts builders.
4)They`re both gonna be the first CPU's to support the next generation of Memory tech.
5) They`re both overclockable (at least the Ks)
6) They`re both CPUs (my personal favorite)

Well, also the biggest reason for a comparison is - of course - so that readers know if a $650 CPU on a $400 motherboard performs any better than a $200 CPU on a $150 motherboard in games and other things we do.

Readers might be willing to drop $1000 on a system if it really offers any benefits, but if a $350 system does just as well, they need to know that.

 

[Hornet]

whoa 8 cores... shouldn't we have like 60 cores by 2010 or something according to Intel's original roadmap when they told us that single core is dead - multi core is all the rage? and it's still way below 4 ghz. please work on clock speed again, Intel.

Cranking up the clock speed is an old and inefficient way of getting extra performance, with the additional heat, power consumption, and cooling overhead.

Even the latest console (build specifically for gaming), have gone 8 cores with low clock speed. IMO it's more efficient than lesser core higher clock speed

 

[messerchmidt]

no usb3?

 

[fentzinator]

Might just have to retire my 980X!

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Cranking up the clock speed is an old and inefficient way of getting extra performance, with the additional heat, power consumption, and cooling overhead.

Even the latest console (build specifically for gaming), have gone 8 cores with low clock speed. IMO it's more efficient than lesser core higher clock speed

That certainly is the server approach, and it is very efficient when you have many small threads that are easily broken over multiple cores.

It is - however - VERY difficult to write good multithreaded code for many tasks without running into thread locking and other problems, which there is a definite point of limiting returns as you crank up core count.

I question - even with well written threaded code - how much the 8 cores in this gen of consoles will truly help their gaming abilities, or if they are more there for their media/entertainment purposes like the ability to run media tools (dvr, media server, transcodes, etc) in the backgroubd while running a game.

For most general purpose computing fewer high performance cores will outclass many core solutions. It's the sad truth that good multithreaded code is a nearly unattainable holy grail.

 

[pxc]

Haswell-E.....By the time its released, Skylake will be knocking on the door with a better value proposition.

It's a different segment, in performance and price. But I understand what you're saying. For my uses, I wouldn't pay the premium for an E platform when a Broadwell K model would more than suit my purposes.

(I really have no idea when a Skylake K processor would be released, but it's possible it's a 2H'15 product since Broadwell K is a 2H'14 product according to slide decks. IOW, enthusiast Skylake models will probably be available in the time frame of Broadwell-E processors.)

But other people, whether they run workstation-like loads or just want an 8 core desktop processor, could find Haswell-E more desirable than other processors arriving in the 2nd half of next year.

 

[samm]

^You know what kind brings up a question in my mind also, will Intel stay on the Tick Tock (2 year) cycle or move away from that. It it stick then 2 years from now we should have Skylake, if not then .....