Kinect-Less Xbox One Coming June 9th

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Microsoft, citing feedback from consumers, has reversed course and decided to sell a Kinect-less Xbox One starting next month for $399.

First, beginning on June 9th, in all markets where Xbox One is sold, we will offer Xbox One starting at $399*. This is a new console option that does not include Kinect. For $399, our new Xbox One offering will continue to deliver access to the best blockbuster games like “Titanfall,” “Call of Duty: Ghosts,” “Forza Motorsport 5,” “Dead Rising 3,” and the upcoming “Watch Dogs,” “Destiny” and "Sunset Overdrive."
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geeze, dont like kinect? just buy the complete XBOX ONE package and sell the kinect 2 on ebay for 150$...
 
allenpan said:
geeze, dont like kinect? just buy the complete XBOX ONE package and sell the kinect 2 on ebay for 150$...
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Ebay "Sold Listings" of the Kinect 2 are sitting around $50-$90.

PS4 still a better buy for a gaming console. Your TV / cable box likely does everything else you'd want from an Xbone.
 
I have no issue with this as long as the developers are still required to develop for the Kinect 2. (Basically, you want to sell a game on the One, you must support the Kinect.) Oh well, $150 for a Kinect 2 brand new as a separate device, hope nobody gets buyers remorse and wish they had gotten one. :D (The dollar amount in made up obviously.)
 
lilbabycat said:
Ebay "Sold Listings" of the Kinect 2 are sitting around $50-$90.

PS4 still a better buy for a gaming console. Your TV / cable box likely does everything else you'd want from an Xbone.
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Yeah, PS4, hope Sony sticks around long enough to continue supporting it. (After all, they are still bleeding cash.) Perhaps Sony will turn the boat around like AMD is doing, we will see. (Right now, it seems as if Sony is just throwing stuff overboard well trying not to sink.)
 
Cause you know it's funny when you think about it.
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ManofGod said:
I have no issue with this as long as the developers are still required to develop for the Kinect 2. (Basically, you want to sell a game on the One, you must support the Kinect.) Oh well, $150 for a Kinect 2 brand new as a separate device, hope nobody gets buyers remorse and wish they had gotten one. :D (The dollar amount in made up obviously.)
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Why? The kinnect is stupid and gimmicky. I dont want to flail my arms around like a tard to play a game.
 
Ashbringer said:
Cause you know it's funny when you think about it.
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Yeah, after all, those who own consoles could never, ever own a gaming PC, amirite? Also, the 360 is having some fantastic sales but, why bother with that when you think you are better than others for what you game on?
 
nvgrim said:
Why? The kinnect is stupid and gimmicky. I dont want to flail my arms around like a tard to play a game.
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What, you do not already do that even without a One already? :D Of course, I am sure you already know that it is not done like that at all.
 
ManofGod said:
What, you do not already do that even without a One already? :D Of course, I am sure you already know that it is not done like that at all.
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I played my roommates and tried that stupid jetski game, i had to hold my arms out in front of me the whole time and turn them like im turning a jetski,it got old after 1 minute. Although the headtracking in forza 5 is pretty neat but again got old after one race and i turned it off.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
Too little, too late.
Europe still doesn't care.
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What, there is more than one person in Europe? Aw come on, you jest, right? :D I personally like the Kinect for what I use it for and would not want it to become an unsupported device.
 
Where are the xbone shills that said this would never happen? Good thing I'm too lazy to look through the old xbone threads

The absurd kinect2 was singlehandedly costing ms this console war. This should have happened day one.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
Too little, too late.
Europe still doesn't care.
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Yeah, this is nearing an act of desperation.

I really think that after all is said and done the typical consumer believes that the PS4 is more powerful and therefore a safer "investment".

MS cannot do anything to change that at this point....except lower the price and try to be the best #2 they can be....

I would love to see Nintendo release a WiiU-2 with specs better than the PS4 and see the mayhem that would ensue.
 
nvgrim said:
I played my roommates and tried that stupid jetski game, i had to hold my arms out in front of me the whole time and turn them like im turning a jetski,it got old after 1 minute. Although the headtracking in forza 5 is pretty neat but again got old after one race and i turned it off.
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Well, I have never tried any of those things but, I just have played the games I have with a controller anyways. (Tomb Raider Definitive Edition, Need for Speed Rivals and Lego Marvel Super Hero's.) But, that is not flapping your arms about like a bird either.
 
ManofGod said:
What, there is more than one person in Europe? Aw come on, you jest, right? :D I personally like the Kinect for what I use it for and would not want it to become an unsupported device.
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Give it a rest. You lost. The motion control fad was already dead before kinect2 shipped on the first xbone. Developers didn't care. Hell even Microsoft couldn't be bothered to make a killer title that proved how invaluable kinect supposedly was.
 
The fact I never turn my 360 on but maybe 3 times a year is my biggest reason to NOT buy anything at this point.

I will say good move MS, you have removed one of the blocks that was in the way to me plunking down money for one. Now if I could just play all my current titles on a Xbone id probably buy one.
 
collegeboy69us said:
The fact I never turn my 360 on but maybe 3 times a year is my biggest reason to NOT buy anything at this point.

I will say good move MS, you have removed one of the blocks that was in the way to me plunking down money for one. Now if I could just play all my current titles on a Xbone id probably buy one.
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And with VR becoming more popular now with sony making their own device its obvious that no one cares about motion control. I wonder if MS is going to get in on the VR train.
 
ManofGod said:
Yeah, after all, those who own consoles could never, ever own a gaming PC, amirite? Also, the 360 is having some fantastic sales but, why bother with that when you think you are better than others for what you game on?
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Because console peasants are lesser then PC gamers? Seriously, look at what's going on with the Xbox One. Microsoft is giving you the privilege to watch Netflix and Hulu without paying for a monthly fee, twice. And now you'll get excited for having the option to buy a Xbone without Kinect? Even at $400 it's still better to buy a PS4. Remember the Xbox One had to put inferior hardware just to stuff in the Kinect and to keep the price relatively low.

All for what, to buy inferior hardware that can't play many modern games at 1080P @60fps? Why not just buy a AMD A10 7850k? That's essentially what modern consoles are.

I argue that the PS4 is not even equivalent to a Radeon HD 7770, despite everyone here thinking that it's nearly equivalent to a Radeon HD 7850. If the PS4 isn't equivalent to a 7770, then what's the Xbox One equivalent to? Just buy a prebuilt gaming PC with that money.

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I bought an xbox 1 with the titanfall bundle (more for future games that anything current.)

Personally, the i think kinect is still wonky as hell. It's a fantastic idea, but something like occulus is FAR more interesting to me.

I think they were always trying to attract the "Casual" crowd with it. They really should have noticed that motion control is/was a fad. That doesn't mean you can't integrate kinect with VR down the road.

I do not like having a craptone of system updates, or waiting an hour for a game to install before I can play it. I also don't care much for the windows 8 version it runs.

It also doesn't play 3d bluray, can't browse networked pcs to play movies (which i use all the time, even xbox 360 did this), xbox video sucks monkey toes, the start screen looks blah, the controller feels cheap, developers still can't use the kinect well, I hate having no option of a wired controller (I sit close to the TV, I don't need batteries) and voice control is worthless.

All that said I bought it for games that will surely come, though I now honestly think I would have been better off with a ps4. I only bought the one because I couldn't find a PS4 locally a couple months ago.
 
DPI said:
Give it a rest. You lost. The motion control fad was already dead before kinect2 shipped on the first xbone. Developers didn't care. Hell even Microsoft couldn't be bothered to make a killer title that proved how invaluable kinect supposedly was.
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I lost? Explain to me how I lost? I own an Xbox one with Kinect 2 and thoroughly enjoy it. :D What's wrong, you seem to be taking this a little personally, eh? Sorry, but why should I "give it a rest"?
 
Now if they could ditch the Wii-U controller-tablet-pad thing they could bring the cost of that console down to $150 and I'm sure it'd be a great sell! Unfortunately they probably have warehouses full of the older boxed version with the mega-pad, so they're screwed
 
ManofGod said:
Hey Ashbringer, ever here of doing NFSW in these stupid links? Next time, do not post stupid crap please.
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Need For Speed World? Oh, you mean not safe for work. Don't blame me cause you haven't discovered headphones yet.
 
Ashbringer said:
Because console peasants are lesser then PC gamers? Seriously, look at what's going on with the Xbox One. Microsoft is giving you the privilege to watch Netflix and Hulu without paying for a monthly fee, twice. And now you'll get excited for having the option to buy a Xbone without Kinect? Even at $400 it's still better to buy a PS4. Remember the Xbox One had to put inferior hardware just to stuff in the Kinect and to keep the price relatively low.

All for what, to buy inferior hardware that can't play many modern games at 1080P @60fps? Why not just buy a AMD A10 7850k? That's essentially what modern consoles are.

I argue that the PS4 is not even equivalent to a Radeon HD 7770, despite everyone here thinking that it's nearly equivalent to a Radeon HD 7850. If the PS4 isn't equivalent to a 7770, then what's the Xbox One equivalent to? Just buy a prebuilt gaming PC with that money.
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Yes Infamous Second Sun was amazing on PC. Really enjoying MLB The Show on PC as well. Dead Rising 3 was pretty good on PC too. :rolleyes:
 
But, but, but...I thought it couldn't work without kinect. Impossible, never going to happen, an integral part. Meh, still not interested in either it or the PS4. No games to play. Oh well, I least I get to cancel my xbox live gold account soon once paywall is gone.
 
demingo said:
Yes Infamous Second Sun was amazing on PC. Really enjoying MLB The Show on PC as well. Dead Rising 3 was pretty good on PC too. :rolleyes:
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Those are first party games so of course they are not coming to pc. How is LoL on xb1/ps4? what about war thunder or planetside 2 or hawken or garrys mod or any other pc EXCLUSIVE game? See i can play that card too.
 
Doesn't solve their problem in fact now it makes it worse. They have an under powered console with NO unique feature for the same price. In addition developer support for Kinect and MS own support for Kinect just dropped like a rock.

The solution always had to be drop the price of the whole system to 399 with Kinect.
 
nvgrim said:
Those are first party games so of course they are not coming to pc. How is LoL on xb1/ps4? what about war thunder or planetside 2 or hawken or garrys mod or any other pc EXCLUSIVE game? See i can play that card too.
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My point went completely over your head. He was trying to illustrate that PC had to be better due to hardware advantages. That's just silly. Each platform has great games and trying to argue one is better than the other is laughable. Go with what has the games you enjoy, or hell, get them all. :D
 
ManofGod said:
Yeah, after all, those who own consoles could never, ever own a gaming PC, amirite? Also, the 360 is having some fantastic sales but, why bother with that when you think you are better than others for what you game on?
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I dunno about you, but I *am* better than others because of what I game on. So, yeah, why bother about the Xbox 360? I sure don't... My PS3 on the other hand...
 
The announcement came early I'm sure after rumors broke out. Still it's the right move, though I will be interested to see the NPD data for June/July now.

And ManofGod forcing developers to use Kinect would alienate a very large percentage of developers. It's an ignorant idea they shouldn't do.
 
ManofGod said:
Hey Ashbringer, ever here of doing NFSW in these stupid links? Next time, do not post stupid crap please.
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Stupid crap? I thought the video was pretty hilarious ripping on the Xbone Kinect...

It's not his duty to post "NSFW", its' YOUR duty to not screw around at work if you will get in trouble for videos like this one.

Do you always click on video links that are unknown with your speakers at full volume? Relying only on total internet strangers to filter your content for you... hah dumb ass.


I work at one of the most uptight, controlling, politically correct envorinments I've ever been in, and when there is some video link I want to watch... doesn't matter if it's G rated or not, I keep my volume super low, or use headphones.

Either way -- here's a 4 second youtube clip that will make it all better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OpXVbTC-Z0
 
demingo said:
My point went completely over your head. He was trying to illustrate that PC had to be better due to hardware advantages. That's just silly. Each platform has great games and trying to argue one is better than the other is laughable. Go with what has the games you enjoy, or hell, get them all. :D
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Hardware is just one advantage to Pc gaming. There's always the open nature of the platform. If for some reason Microsoft required a monthly fee to watch Netflix on Windows, I can guarantee you the Internet would laugh at them, while someone would develop software that works around it. You can get away with that shit on closed platforms like Xbone or PS4, but not PC.

Remember the Xbox One and PS4 are running x86 hardware. They're treading on PC turf. If Sony and Microsoft wanted too, they could have their console games running on PC. If they don't, someone will make an emulator that will. As it is I'm waiting for some developer to accidentally leak the software they use to test out their games on PC. It's not a matter of if but when.

Besides it's not like the games that you listed matter. I wouldn't touch any of those games with a 10 foot pole. Now if it was Fallout 4 or Dark Souls II then I would shit bricks. Seriously MLB?
 
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