Kimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure

I dedicated my user name to this..Its the case ive been waiting for. Do we have to sign up for a reserve or any info on how to order eventually? Favorite case ever fo sho.
 
NovaFan said:
I dedicated my user name to this..Its the case ive been waiting for. Do we have to sign up for a reserve or any info on how to order eventually? Favorite case ever fo sho.
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While I appreciate the gesture, it's unfortunate because the case has a new name, we just haven't revealed it yet.

The best way to make sure you don't miss the crowdfunding campaign is to sign up for the newsletter at the website. I'll PM you the address just in case.
 
haha well shitt. Ok I still have to sign up..Ive just been keeping an eye on the thread for ages but I will sign up later today!
 
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On February 11th, Project Nova emerges from the shadows as we unveil the final name, specifications, features, and crowdfunding date.
 
It's here, it's finally here !

Or well, it's close, after crowdfunding and what-not :D
 
Ok..its February 11th.
Hardforum rules states that when someone posts a date for something like that,first person to post gets a free product.
I'll let you surprise me with the color :eek:
 
majic12 said:
Ok..its February 11th.
Hardforum rules states that when someone posts a date for something like that,first person to post gets a free product.
I'll let you surprise me with the color :eek:
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Sure, I'll just need $400 to cover shipping :)

Bense said:
It's been Feb 11th for 9 minutes here :D
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No midnight release or anything so no point staying up late for those in the Americas. There's a few things we need to coordinate for the reveal so it should be sometime in the morning EST.
 
I like that you have more than just black as options, still wonder if it would be possible to pull one off the line before powder coating as I have some pretty good connections locally for both plating and powder coating, and stripping a final case is doable but a total pain in the ass.
 
I also prefer .PNG because it's open, lossless, has an alpha-channel and doesn't introduce banding.
High resolution, probably because HiDPI is a thing nowadays with 4K laptops and monitors, 2K tablets and phones.
 
I understand that but web page shouldn't load front page image like it's streaming on 56k modem. The image is 1.3mb and after clicking it you're brought to yet another, even bigger, 2.7mb png that's visibly steamed. And I am opening the page on 300mbit connection at work so it's not a bottleneck on my side.

Is there a mobile version with smaller images? I think that's not a good idea to build a page with 20mb of lossless images if it's not absolutely necessary because not every one wants to waster their mobile data this way.
 
You probably have a limited amount of bandwidth out of that 300Mbit, the page loads with CTRL+F5 in Firefox 45 in 2.xx seconds on my 50Mbit line:

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I made a low quality JPG ;)

Legend: http://www.apptelemetry.com/en/page-speed-monitor.html

If you can't afford 20MB of mobile data on your phone, you shouldn't be using it for stuff like this. You could also just use WiFi or a PC. Or public WiFi if you can't afford internet but can afford high-end PCs.
 
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I'm on a 150/20 line here and no problem with loading (ctrl+f5 for fresh reload) even the cerberus product page. The first image you can see streaming in but other than that it loads in about 3 seconds for me, considering it's a 20MB page located in Canada it's super fast.
PS I'm from the Netherlands so the distance is very far and considering the recent release of the page no caching should have taken place I think.

It's a squarespace site so anything I'd say they could work on their backend for that.
 
The pc im on right now is on 1mb (dont laugh)but its more than acceptable.Will try later on my other 10mb one.
Saw this:

The side bracket can be removed for extra heatsink clearance, but unless the extra room is needed, it's recommended to leave it installed, as it helps to stiffen the internal frame.

I supose you are speaking from a perfectionist point of view.Its not fragile on the long therm with out it.
 
SaperPL said:
I understand that but web page shouldn't load front page image like it's streaming on 56k modem. The image is 1.3mb and after clicking it you're brought to yet another, even bigger, 2.7mb png that's visibly steamed. And I am opening the page on 300mbit connection at work so it's not a bottleneck on my side.

Is there a mobile version with smaller images? I think that's not a good idea to build a page with 20mb of lossless images if it's not absolutely necessary because not every one wants to waster their mobile data this way.
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The web assets are heavy, but they should (emphasis on should) be reduced in resolution on mobile and on computers where the viewport is towards the smaller end. I'm not sure why you aren't seeing that, but I'll take a look at the site tonight. Thanks for mentioning!
 
majic12 said:
I supose you are speaking from a perfectionist point of view.Its not fragile on the long therm with out it.
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It could help in cleaning, leaving the fan on the bracket. I would try fitting the largest/highest heatsink possible that allows the fan to be attached to the bracket and possibly attach a dust filter on the steel bracket.
 
Maybe it's not completely about the rated speed but also about location

I was mostly talking about the "second" page
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If someone were to open this page on a phone at 3g it would take ages to load. It's not essentially about whether your plan sucks but more about the infrastructure at your current location while on the go.

From my point of view it's generally bad idea to show potential client anything like that visible streamed image on the front page or layout breaking.

FYI I don't see a difference between those 2.7MB PNG's and 300kb 90% quality JPG's since there's a lot of surface that's simply a noise made up by paint drying :p
 
To clarify, the <img> containers are configured to dynamically choose lower resolution images based on the size of the viewport, and the platform. It seems that this isn't working, at least as expected, so I'll have to put on my web dev hat this evening and fix the problem.

Apologies to those with restricted or metered bandwidth! :0
 
I hope my Antec hcp1200 power supply fits.My current build is the last full size build I plan on making.
 
D1RTYD1Z619 said:
I hope my Antec hcp1200 power supply fits.My current build is the last full size build I plan on making.
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I've tested a SilverStone ST1000-G Evolution which is a 180mm unit like your Antec and it fits with no problem.

Cabling on the other hand will be difficult. It's the reason I went with the ST1000-G, I can use the same short cables intended for the SFX units with it.

Kido1986 said:
Desginer dropped into a thread on Reddit, said expect $250.
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Correct, we're aiming for $250 for the base model.
 
Does the ATX version of the case have the SFX power supply mounts built into the subframe? If I were to buy the ATX version could I still use a sfx power supply in the sfx power supply mounting location? I can see using this case for a very long time and choices in parts inside definitely helps in the long run.
 
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That's something that's come up in the discussion of the new design.

I've had quite a few people concerned about being able to start with ATX and migrate to SFX/SFX-L at a later date.

I was going to remove them but I could leave the mounting holes for the SFX bracket and design a plate to fill in the ATX hole for the power cord to mount to that would be available as an extra. Though I'm not sure how well the fan mount and tubing holes will work in that situation.

Is that something you'd be interested in?
 
Aibohphobia said:
That's something that's come up in the discussion of the new design.

I've had quite a few people concerned about being able to start with ATX and migrate to SFX/SFX-L at a later date.

I was going to remove them but I could leave the mounting holes for the SFX bracket and design a plate to fill in the ATX hole for the power cord to mount to that would be available as an extra. Though I'm not sure how well the fan mount and tubing holes will work in that situation.

Is that something you'd be interested in?
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Definitely. I understand that as far as optimization goes having more mounting plates and such affects the efficiency of the cost of production and the efficiency of the airflow. But having the option even if secondary is awesome.
 
In the dimensions sction it has H x W x D: 303 x 170 x 354mm and H x W x D (overall): 320 x 170 x 364mm.Never got it clear in many cases what overall means.Total size(including feet and sticking out parts)?

Was wandering if i put a sfx-l and attach the 120mm fan below it, will the psu have enough air to take in having in mind that the fan will be taking most of it?
 
majic12 said:
In the dimensions sction it has H x W x D: 303 x 170 x 354mm and H x W x D (overall): 320 x 170 x 364mm.Never got it clear in many cases what overall means.Total size(including feet and sticking out parts)?

Was wandering if i put a sfx-l and attach the 120mm fan below it, will the psu have enough air to take in having in mind that the fan will be taking most of it?
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Measurements overall would be wth the feet & the PCI card securing bracket.

Both the PSU & a 120mm fan mounted below the PSU would have airflow to them, as the side intakes run from top to bottom, feeding both…
 
Boil said:
Measurements overall would be wth the feet & the PCI card securing bracket.

Both the PSU & a 120mm fan mounted below the PSU would have airflow to them, as the side intakes run from top to bottom, feeding both…
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Front intake but otherwise yup.
 
We're conducting a survey to help nail down a few details before the campaign goes live, please fill it out if you're serious about getting a case. Link here.
 
Survey is going well so far, but quite a few people have used the comment box to ask questions which is awkward because we didn't ask for email addresses so we can't directly answer those questions :p

So Sunday, Feb 21 at 2pm EST we'll be holding a live Q&A on Discord for everyone to ask us questions and hang out.

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We'll send out an email as well as update this thread with the link when it goes live.
 
I registered just to ask this question, a bit overkill perhaps, but I'm really excited about this case!

Will I be able to fit an Arctic Liquid Freezer 120 in the front of the ATX vesion of the Cerberus? With a 49mm rad + 2x 25mm fans it's quite thick (although running it with just one fan is an option). Will clearance be an issue? Will it overhang the motherboard, and if so, how much? Also, the tubing on this unit is quite short, just 32cm. Is that sufficient to reach the front of the case with most motherboards?


I have an almost new EVGA SupernovaG2 750W, so getting a new PSU is pretty much out of the question, and my R9 Fury X limits my cooling options to 120/140mm rads, which leaves me with the Liquid Freezer 120 as my best option as far as silence/performance goes.
 
I love the recent changes you've made to the case, it's easily the best mATX case I've ever seen or heard of, all categories! The look has been substantionally improved, Infinivents is a good idea and I like the new name too. :D

I'd sign up for one without a hint of a doubt, just as I said early on in this thread, if it wasn't for the fact that I went full circle (ATX => mATX => ITX => ATX) quite a long time ago and am currently content as-is. But we'll see how long my current ATX mind set lasts before I go mATX again... :rolleyes:

But I'm sure the crowd funding will be a success no matter if I participate or not!
 
Valantar said:
Will I be able to fit an Arctic Liquid Freezer 120 in the front of the ATX vesion of the Cerberus? With a 49mm rad + 2x 25mm fans it's quite thick (although running it with just one fan is an option). Will clearance be an issue? Will it overhang the motherboard, and if so, how much? Also, the tubing on this unit is quite short, just 32cm. Is that sufficient to reach the front of the case with most motherboards?
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There's 83mm between the motherboard and the frame front. So a single fan should fit just fine. There's no room for the second fan though, the case isn't wide enough for a 120mm fan/rad to overhang the motherboard

backfeed said:
I'd sign up for one without a hint of a doubt, just as I said early on in this thread, if it wasn't for the fact that I went full circle (ATX => mATX => ITX => ATX) quite a long time ago and am currently content as-is. But we'll see how long my current ATX mind set lasts before I go mATX again... :rolleyes:
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I've been tempted to go ATX since most of the motherboard development seems to go there but it's too easy. MicroATX is a challenge and I like that :)
 
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