Just used the Revolution controller...

rayman2k2 said:
And it's not as bad as I thought.

First, I am a huge Nintendo Fan-boy, but when i saw the controller, I literally said "Double-u-tee-eff?"

Going in, I had very little expectations for it, but after using it in the 'crude' demos Nintendo setup, its not all that bad. Using it in Metroid Prime 3 was actually alot of fun and there basketball demo wasn't too bad either. I will have to admit that this controller could actually be fun to use in many games, the problem lies in the developer and whether they want to actually code for it...

If you guys have any questions about my experience with the controller send me a PM or leave a post here, and I'll do my best to answer it.
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Here is a post I wrote on another site, I'd like to see your comment on it:

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A lot of people play games when they have some free time and want to relax - often they are tired, burnt out from work, etc, and just want to lay down, chill out, and play a game.

But think about it, this is not really possible when using the new Nintendo controller. When laying down on your side or on your stomach (common positions for playing games when not sitting), your arms and hands have a limited range of motion. In addition to that, keeping your arms/hands outstretched and 6" apart - the positioning required to use the new Nintendo controller - is uncomfortable and quickly fatiguing when laying on your side/stomach. On top of all this, the outcome of your success in the game depends on your physical positioning. So if you just want to kick back, lay down, and game, you will probably get sore arms and frustrated using the new Nintendo controller.

One of the major advantages of using a console over a PC is that you are able to relax on your couch and play a game. (on a PC you need to sit/stand to operate a keyboard/mouse). This advantage is lost with the new Nintendo controller, as you will be restricted to certain positions similar to a PC (probably sitting or standing) in order to succeed at the game without giving yourself muscle cramps.

In addition, there likely will be no good option to use a standard controller for games that are made for the gyro-remote Nintendo controller - it would be similar to trying to play Nintendogs or Pac-Pix without a touchscreen - and developing two entirely different gameplay mechanics for both the gyro-remote and a controller would be too costly. In the end, if there is any input at all that comes from the motion/positioning of the controller, no matter how small, it will likely prove troublesome for the aforementioned gaming positions.

So for many, I think the new Nintendo controller may defeat one of the purposes of gaming - the "chill" factor - as now you will need to be seated in a position where both arms/hands have full range of motion and will not get tired from frequent motion or being outstretched. Impractical, to say the least.

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Thoughts?
 
rayman2k2 said:
well, they know what it accomplishes (i.e. what buttons it adds), the one that we saw was quite crude and more or less the same as a wavebird the buttons on the right were setup in a + pattern
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They didnt see the cradle. They just literally took the wavebird picture and changed the buttons and colors.
 
tranCendenZ said:
Here is a post I wrote on another site, I'd like to see your comment on it:

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A lot of people play games when they have some free time and want to relax - often they are tired, burnt out from work, etc, and just want to lay down, chill out, and play a game.

But think about it, this is not really possible when using the new Nintendo controller.
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Wow. That burnt out that all you can move is your thumbs? Even then, you got the cradle if your too lazy, I mean too burnt out, to play a VIDEO GAME. LOL
 
rayman2k2 said:
I have to for security reasons, I'm a consultant for Booz Allen and Hamilton, and I'm currently between projects atm, I previously did a project for the IRS - hence the need for security. My next one will hopefully be an FBI gig...
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You have a clause in your contract that obligates you to connect to a VPN from the other side of the world to protect pertinent local data, but they left out the clause that prohibits you from posting about aforementioned pertinent local data on random hardware message boards. Okay.

P.S. Most off-topic thread ever.
 
tranCendenZ said:
Here is a post I wrote on another site, I'd like to see your comment on it:

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A lot of people play games when they have some free time and want to relax - often they are tired, burnt out from work, etc, and just want to lay down, chill out, and play a game.

But think about it, this is not really possible when using the new Nintendo controller. When laying down on your side or on your stomach (common positions for playing games when not sitting), your arms and hands have a limited range of motion. In addition to that, keeping your arms/hands outstretched and 6" apart - the positioning required to use the new Nintendo controller - is uncomfortable and quickly fatiguing when laying on your side/stomach. On top of all this, the outcome of your success in the game depends on your physical positioning. So if you just want to kick back, lay down, and game, you will probably get sore arms and frustrated using the new Nintendo controller.

One of the major advantages of using a console over a PC is that you are able to relax on your couch and play a game. (on a PC you need to sit/stand to operate a keyboard/mouse). This advantage is lost with the new Nintendo controller, as you will be restricted to certain positions similar to a PC (probably sitting or standing) in order to succeed at the game without giving yourself muscle cramps.

In addition, there likely will be no good option to use a standard controller for games that are made for the gyro-remote Nintendo controller - it would be similar to trying to play Nintendogs or Pac-Pix without a touchscreen - and developing two entirely different gameplay mechanics for both the gyro-remote and a controller would be too costly. In the end, if there is any input at all that comes from the motion/positioning of the controller, no matter how small, it will likely prove troublesome for the aforementioned gaming positions.

So for many, I think the new Nintendo controller may defeat one of the purposes of gaming - the "chill" factor - as now you will need to be seated in a position where both arms/hands have full range of motion and will not get tired from frequent motion or being outstretched. Impractical, to say the least.

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Thoughts?
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Good article there...never thought about that...I guess you'll have to learn how to flick your wrist real fast and real far...

it can be done, but I think the amount of effort needed is more than the gain

I think I should add some more:
If you lay on your side, using the arm that is above you should be okay, but it could be quite uncomfortable...you make a valid point there
 
finalgt said:
You have a clause in your contract that obligates you to connect to a VPN from the other side of the world to protect pertinent local data, but they left out the clause that prohibits you from posting about aforementioned pertinent local data on random hardware message boards. Okay.

P.S. Most off-topic thread ever.
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What pertinent local data did I post?

The fact that I worked with the IRS?


P.S. *Slap
 
rayman2k2 said:
What pertinent local data did I post?

The fact that I worked with the IRS?


P.S. *Slap
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I didn't say you posted pertinent local data, did I? I said you posted about pertinent local data.

And since you skipped the subtext altogether, allow me to spell it out for you: you've ended up gloating about the alleged fact that you're a security-clearanced contractor for the government in an attempt to convince the non-believers that you aren't the type of person to lie about something so silly over the intarwebs. Notably, this is in direct contradiction with your first statement that you really don't care whether people believe you or not. This is the logical progression of events for all people who don't know how to properly lie about stuff on the internet. First, you're able to fall back on your initial argument that you don't need to explain any of the shortcomings in your story, such as:

1. No pics.
2. Info that is in direct contradiction with several huge videogame news sites.

If you had left out the bit where you suddenly decided to care that people on a random hardware message board don't believe your story, like a schoolboy trying to convince his friends that his dad owns a Ferrari and not a Kia, then you'd still have a pretty good argument (or at the very least, the total lack of a motive - who the fuck cares enough about this stuff to lie about it on the internet?) But once you start bragging on the internet about your awesome job, it becomes clear that you actually do have a motive: mainly, attention and a subsequent reputation as being privileged.

Cliff's Notes: Shens.
 
K10 said:
if rayman posted a time-stamped pic of him on the streets of tokyo or wherever he is in japan, then you guys will believe him?
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Yeah, how about a picture of him holding the Japan Times of the day, next to a car with a steering wheel on the right ? :D

P.S. I'm just giving out ideas, I don't really care if he lie or not, sooooo many people lie on the net it's almost normal ...
 
You people are LAZY! Lie down and play? Since when can you ever be accurate at anything that requires hand-eye coordination to the side or even in front of you when you lie down?

Besides, you don't need to be stretched out to use it. Didn't you read IGN's article? Or EGM's? (1up.com) - they said they were flailing their arms for a while, but then they just sat down and relaxed, and you were able to rest your wrists on your legs like normal - it was still perfectly usable. What's wrong with sitting down and playing like normal?
 
[Fate]Doom said:
Thats because he is indeed just that......a liar. He got caught in his lie and tried to fix it, but I saw through him immediately. Its not like it was a well conceived plan :rolleyes:
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wow you where a little flame boy from the beginning... do you have nothing better to do, then pratrol the game board and point out someone that may/maynot be lieing... you truely have to much time on your hands. If it was that big of a deal to you then report it to a mod... no need to consistently call him a liar. Retards like you is why I don't bother registering on bbs's anymore.
 
GhostDog said:
I didn't doubt anything until I read this. I'm sure it's been picked apart, but I just read the first page and the last.

You're connecting to a private network, using the internet, to then browse the net? BS, should've thought a bit harder on this one.
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lol yeah well yeah I dunno after that post... but no need to be so harsh about shit.
 
i never lay down to play.. it's uncomfortable.. plus you can't play as accuratly as you can sitting.. i dont know.. maybe it's just me
 
yza said:
wow you where a little flame boy from the beginning... do you have nothing better to do, then pratrol the game board and point out someone that may/maynot be lieing... you truely have to much time on your hands. If it was that big of a deal to you then report it to a mod... no need to consistently call him a liar. Retards like you is why I don't bother registering on bbs's anymore.
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The mods have been notified, and there's nothing here i see any need to do anything about. If the OP is lying, so fucking what. If he's telling the truth, so fucking what. It doesn't matter, and until the console is released, it's all speculation/prototypes/smoke and mirrors anyway.

No e-penis++ either way, so let it drop.
 
Not just you....I pretty much always sit to play (at most recline). Most of my friends seem to just sit, as well.
 
Playing games is almost impossible lying down. Well, at least accurately, so I don't see where that argument starts.
 
You dont HAVE to use the motion sensing part, only if you want to, thats what the cradle piece is for and the gamecube controller. Jeeze its like trying to explain the VCR to my grandmother....
 
K10 said:
if i'm going to lie on the internet, then i'd lie about dating a playboy playmate or something...
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Yeah but It can turn out bad too .. like that guy that pretended that he was going out with tiffany teen (he posted a picture of her back he was not that stupid) on some mazda protege forums and someone caught him .. and he still continued to lie about it for countless pages .. I could post the link but that would be hijacking the thread which I'm like doing right now ... so I should just stop. :D

DudeItsMe said:
Has anyone considered how fun this could be when drunk?
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Or high. :D
 
Just wait till the homebrewers get a hold of it... virtual sex games will become a reality :D
 
My God, between the "bullshit flags", jap coke, BS Iraq war stories and VPN proxy connections 60% of this whole damn thread should be deleted for being OT.

As for you guys calling the OP a liar, get over it. I mean damn, who gives a shit if you think hes lying or not. If you don't believe him then fine, take the info with a grain of salt and move on but most of us here probably don't care what you believe, especially the ones that want to hear what he has to say and don't want to filter through 6, crap strewn pages to do it.
 
cgrant26 said:
As for you guys calling the OP a liar, get over it. I mean damn, who gives a shit if you think hes lying or not. If you don't believe him then fine, take the info with a grain of salt and move on but most of us here probably don't care what you believe, especially the ones that want to hear what he has to say and don't want to filter through 6, crap strewn pages to do it.
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QFT

What is more bullshit and stupid? One person that could possibly be making up something, or a bunch of people with nothing better to do than argue over if someone used a damn gaming system controller.

6 pages wasted over arguing of whether using a VPN is stupid or not, whether this or that and who did what where and when.

I dont beleive ghosts, UFOs, or a good tasting low calorie soda exist. But somehow I will somewhat beleive this story. Who gives a shit? If the OP is making it all up, why does it matter? Is not arguing over this going to cause global warming or something.

All I wanted to do was read about someone talking (or BS'ing) about the damn controller. You bastards had to, in the spirit of hardforum, crap up YET ANOTHER thread for 6 whole pages. Thank you for wasting my time and everyone elses.

Im out of dew, I think I need a beer...
 
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