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Just used the Revolution controller...

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rayman2k2

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And it's not as bad as I thought.

First, I am a huge Nintendo Fan-boy, but when i saw the controller, I literally said "Double-u-tee-eff?"

Going in, I had very little expectations for it, but after using it in the 'crude' demos Nintendo setup, its not all that bad. Using it in Metroid Prime 3 was actually alot of fun and there basketball demo wasn't too bad either. I will have to admit that this controller could actually be fun to use in many games, the problem lies in the developer and whether they want to actually code for it...

If you guys have any questions about my experience with the controller send me a PM or leave a post here, and I'll do my best to answer it.
 
also I saw the Cradle Controller/Shell, where you stick the "remote conrol" control into and you get something similar to a Game Cube controller, this will come with every system and that was also quite easy to use. It seems as though there is a five minute learning curve, then you get used to it all.


[EDIT] the controller shell was not a final product, it did however look almost like a Game Cube controller and did not look too different than the mockups that are around the web.
 
Can you comment on how tight/responsive it was to your movement?

A lot of people are thinking you're going to literally have to be moving your entire arm about, but I think that was just for show in the "teaser" trailer and you would likely be able to merely use your wrist, etc for a lot of the movements.
 
Stiler said:
Can you comment on how tight/responsive it was to your movement?

A lot of people are thinking you're going to literally have to be moving your entire arm about, but I think that was just for show in the "teaser" trailer and you would likely be able to merely use your wrist, etc for a lot of the movements.
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Well, I started off using my whole arm, atleast my forearm. Though there was little movement of the forearm once I got used to it, it was mainly my wrist that was controlling it. You can rest your arm on a couch arm and still use the controller effectively.
 
Since you've seen the shell.. how are the buttons laid out.. because the N64 had 6 buttons( A-B and 4-C buttons).. the gamecube has 4 for you right thumb.. how will you play 6 button N64 games on a 4 button gamecube looking doo daa.. that's my big question.. i can see how you can play NES and SNES with the gamecube controller.. but i still have trouble seeing how you would play N64..

thanks..

that is.. if you're not BSing us here.. how did you get to use it?
 
[Fate]Doom said:
Not to be a cynic, but I am calling you a liar. :eek:
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:eek:


call all you want, I'm still having fun abusing my brothers press pass ;)


and frankly (and I dont mean to sound rude here) but I truly don't care, I can only tell you what I know and what I experienced, which will be no different than what people will be seeing when they use it for the first time.
 
I am saying its all BS.

I have it on a good source there is no shell at the show and only a select few media types are being shown the controller.

Not to mention, uh you would have to have been in Japan over the last 72 hours and if I was there I wouldn't be posting here...
 
RancidWAnnaRIot said:
Since you've seen the shell.. how are the buttons laid out.. because the N64 had 6 buttons( A-B and 4-C buttons).. the gamecube has 4 for you right thumb.. how will you play 6 button N64 games on a 4 button gamecube looking doo daa.. that's my big question.. i can see how you can play NES and SNES with the gamecube controller.. but i still have trouble seeing how you would play N64..

thanks..

that is.. if you're not BSing us here.. how did you get to use it?
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you know, thats a pretty good question - unfortunately one I dont have an answer for. The shell added two joysticks/analog sticks, I'm going to assume that one of them can be used as the C-pad on the N64 controller.

as for how i got to use it, my bro works with IGN and he was able to take me to go demo it.
 
[Fate]Doom said:
I am saying its all BS.

I have it on a good source there is no shell at the show and only a select few media types are being shown the controller.

Not to mention, uh you would have to have been in Japan over the last 72 hours and if I was there I wouldn't be posting here...
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Did I say I was in America? Did I say that I left for Japan today?

I've been there for the past week visiting some relatives and got to hang out with my bro.


As for your 'good source', yes its true there was no FINAL version of the shell, but there were prototypes.

Going over my second post I accidently implied that I used the shell, it was either the caffeine or the lack of sleep, but I did not use one.

And If you all dont mind, I'm gonna take go and take a nap.
 
rayman2k2 said:
Did I say I was in America? Did I say that I left for Japan today?

I've been there for the past week visiting some relatives and got to hang out with my bro.


As for your 'good source', yes its true there was no FINAL version of the shell, but there were prototypes.
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No dude, there are supposedly no shells at all, prototype or otherwise. I also highly doubt "your bro" who works for IGN has enough pull to get you into a behind closed doors meeting with Nintendo.

Can't a mod check this guys IP adress and trace it so we can close this thread and call it a day?
 
[Fate]Doom said:
Not to be a cynic, but I am calling you a liar. :eek:
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Ditto.

The least he could have done is checked up on known facts before he lied. The Metroid demo was just a one-level adaptation of the most recent Metroid game for the Gamecube.
 
[Fate]Doom said:
No dude, there are supposedly no shells at all, prototype or otherwise. I also highly doubt "your bro" who works for IGN has enough pull to get you into a behind closed doors meeting with Nintendo.

Can't a mod check this guys IP adress and trace it so we can close this thread and call it a day?
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No dude, I'm pretty sure there are if I did see them. As for my brother, VP of Marketing might have a bit of pull


And doubt the IP thing will work as my laptop VPN's into servers at work then into the Internet - trust me when I say the Internet is sloooow (x 4)
 
DarkSeraphim said:
Ditto.

The least he could have done is checked up on known facts before he lied. The Metroid demo was just a one-level adaptation of the most recent Metroid game for the Gamecube.
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No the demo was quickly put together from a single level from the upcoming Metroid game


I dont even know why I bother here in the Games and Gaming Equipment forum. I came to help other people understand after my own experience with the controller and I get Xbox/PS2 fan-boys fucking everything up.



To everyone who has questions about THE CONTROLLER please PM me. To everyone who has called shens, BS, or is being cynical - continue to be, I truly care not.
 
Now I for one won't call BS just because I do have an open mind. However, I believe both IGN and EGM (1up.com) have stated that the Metroid demo was thrown together by Retro from Metroid Prime 2 (paraphrase: "Metroid Prime 2 has been retrofitted to the new controls scheme as a quick demo of the tech") - just the graphics would prove that. The Rev will provide much nicer graphics than the Gamecube.

Maybe IGN was told wrong? I dunno... but I would think that Metroid 3 isn't far enough along to be shown to the public, and if it was, they would've shown it to all the public as a "there, see - Revolution game, Revolution graphics")

From what I understand, the demos behind closed doors at TGS were running on mostly PCs, because they were just simple, crude demos.

So not to discount you, it's entirely possible that your VP of Marketing brother got you in the behind-closed-doors press-only meeting, but I do think you have it wrong on Metroid.
 
well, I guess I could have it wrong. :(


I guess in my antsy-ness I probably heard "This is a level from Metroid 3" rather than "This is how a level will play in Metroid 3". I dunno, but going to IGN, I did see that it was from Prime 2, my bad on that one I guess :(
 
Good to hear the controller isn't all weird, I was rather worried about that (Nin fan boy too :) ).

As for the N64 and GC thing, they ported the Zelda games to the GC and the controls were pretty good IMO. The N64 games would have to be rewritten alittle for the new control scheme.
 
Nah, I don't think so. Even if you just use a gamecube controller, it can be done. The 4 C-buttons turn into the C-stick quite easily. And when was the D-pad ever used on N64 games, for the most part? That's 4 buttons right there.

I think they've designed their "controller shell" thing to make sure that the virtual console idea is possible. But regardless, they could even remap the buttons as they did with Zelda for the Gamecube controller.
 
BS, no shell is at TGS. Info only sourced from Nintendo Europe about it. No shell has been shown anywhere. You'd think IGN or Gamespot would have mentioned the shell when they tested it.

And look at you try and defend your IP address being state-side.Its pathetic

Complete and udder BS. Lock this thread.
 
hey rayman, japan is a good good place, enjoy your time there. I love it there, went there 3 times last year, and hopefully I can go to school there next year so i can actually spend some time with the love of my life. peace dOOd
 
I'm kinda worried it's squared edges are unergonomic. Is that true, or is it comfortable anyway?
 
Killermonkey, that was the prototype design that was shown. Nintendo of Europe commented and said "the final design may be a bit more rounded and some buttons may or not be moved or added" or something to that effect. Regardless, IGN and EGM seem to find it extremely comfortable with little learning curve. That's perfect for the masses.
 
whether this bloke really is there or not, I am still looking forward to this console.
Nintendo have always lead the way in this kind of innovation
 
Wow.... just wow.

One excited [H]er trying to spread some info, and he gets his ass jumped and called a liar.

<sigh>

Peace,
Tim
 
somecallmeTim said:
Wow.... just wow.

One excited [H]er trying to spread some info, and he gets his ass jumped and called a liar.

<sigh>

Peace,
Tim
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Thats because he is indeed just that......a liar. He got caught in his lie and tried to fix it, but I saw through him immediately. Its not like it was a well conceived plan :rolleyes:
 
somecallmeTim said:
Wow.... just wow.

One excited [H]er trying to spread some info, and he gets his ass jumped and called a liar.

<sigh>

Peace,
Tim
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I was in Iraq for the signing of the new constitution. I dodged bullets and even caught an incoming mortar gently enough to keep it from going off, saving my friends that were traveling with me.

See? Just because some random person says something on the internet doesn't mean it is true.
 
DarkSeraphim said:
I was in Iraq for the signing of the new constitution. I dodged bullets and even caught an incoming mortar gently enough to keep it from going off, saving my friends that were traveling with me.
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glad you made it back alive.
 
^^^

It was tough. There was a lot of water to jog across between Georgia and Iraq. I made it though.
 
DarkSeraphim said:
^^^

It was tough. There was a lot of water to jog across between Georgia and Iraq. I made it though.
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dude!! that's crazy stuff.... wow

did you like win a medal for that?? honestly that deserves a medal.. the catching the mortar thing..
 
on one of my flights to japan, we ran outta gas and landed on iwo jima. i had everyone get out of the plane and climb onto the wings and told them to all exhale really hard just over the top of the wings (think when you hold a curled over piece of paper, blow over it and you have liftoff!). after some practice, we all got coordinated and were able to exhale in unison, so then we got behind the plane and pushed it up to speed, then hopped onto the wings, exhaled, and FOOM! we flew her all the way to narita.


and seriously people, its not like people aren't allowed to go to Japan, it aint north korea. if rayman is there, which he easily could be, then he just as easily could be at tgs. especially being an american, its not hard to get handed free opportunity in japan. this is the country that pays americans to stand in the background on famous talk shows and gameshows just to be the novelty background american. kinda like a lot of our advertising in the states features asians recently. big deal if he's lying or not, but he really could be there.
 
Yeah this thread has gone far off topic and is flame bait, and should be closed. He COULD be bullshitting... but then again, maybe he isn't. That's not the point, he was just trying to pass on some information. Quit it with the flaming, the pre-teen testosterone here is starting to stink.
 
TheJackal said:
was the controller lightweight or what?

i will believe you. :)
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yes, well, it was of perfect weight, the back of it seemed a bit heavier but I think that was because of a prototype battery they were using, again though, wasn't bothersome...
 
the fact that Nintendo wouldn't allow cameras in the room is starting to kill me. Whateva though, I'm gonna go grab a bottle of Coke, it tastes better here for some reason :confused:
 
KillerMonkey said:
I'm kinda worried it's squared edges are unergonomic. Is that true, or is it comfortable anyway?
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It wasn't too bad, but apparently they are going to round it some...? I keep getting a picture of an oval in my head, so basically we all will be holding mini-french baguettes when we use it :)
 
rayman2k2 said:
yes, well, it was of perfect weight, the back of it seemed a bit heavier but I think that was because of a prototype battery they were using, again though, wasn't bothersome...
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thanks for answering, i still believe you. :)
 
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