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I have to think the tabloids would hate this. Since the "performers" would be pre-rendered and their appearance and behavior strictly controlled,there wouldn't be any "wardrobe malfunctions",onstage antics,or pantyless partying. Hell,the Enquirer would go out of business!
So, when can we have Sharon Apple?
Was it just me or were there a few glowsticks that were in the shape of leeks, a la leekspin? I mean, a few people had two glowsticks in one hand that made a V, but there was a few flashes of leek shaped glowsticks...
It's Macross idol time!
Miku is associated with leek. The other voices for example have their respective items (mostly vegetables) too.
GUMI (the mascot for the Megpoid voice files) has carrots.
Gakupo (based on GACKT) has eggplants.
Others have fried chicken, apples as their "items"
Of course you have to have Miku and the leeks.
...and that's ridiculous because? She's not taking anyone's job, man. She's not going to be your new wife. She's entertainment for some anime lovers.Ok, again, this is ridiculous because a pre-rendered animation is being treated as a person. Fact.
That sounds eerily like the 2nd commandment. You're upset that she...came from 'us'? Is that what you're saying? That we humans 'gave birth' to her and that she should not be idolized in place of her creators. Ok...kinda hardcore don't you think?No people evolved to treat pre-rendered 3D images as people or as an idol. Fact.
These people here are doing that. Fact.
While I can imagine in the future a dynamic AI, with some advanced sensory interface will become an entertainment icon, this is not that. I have no clue what you're prattling on about sex, male, female, w/e, that has no application to anything I've said.
With that said, my original point was, for anyone to treat this as anything more then animation is ridiculous. From the video, it looks like people in the audience aren't just looking at an animation. There in lies the problem. Also the absurdity. If you do not realize this ridiculous on the level of mankind, then my words are wasted.
Nothing I've said is about bashing a culture, a people, a race, it's about how ridiculous this is. But I guess if you took what I said and applied it to the Japanese culture (as the audience is a part of that culture) then you might surmise the culture has warped into some bizarre social construct as to allow people to blur the lines of reality.
Sure the culture might be different, but hey, I guess sacrificing people is fine, why not allow polygamy? Incest? Marrying your daughters? All cultural trends. Where's the line drawn? For me this is approaching a perversion on equal magnitude to the above, and is only to the detriment of that society. Of course it is a "victimless" perversion, but it may also develop into some sort of pacifier cultural behavior to replace normal human social interation/skills/everything else I can't think of on the spot.
Now, before you get your suspenders all up in a huff, try to think about how I am not trying to engage you in an argument, and how I am exploring the negative implications of such concerts and all branching forms of media. (Defending things is fine, but just make sure you're approaching the argument from all angles, not just one.)
What cracks me up is the Japanese crowds you see in concerts are always so robotic. They do the same near synchronized hand wave.
Wow. You're taking this dancing anime girl way way too seriously Mr. Visionary. We're suddenly going to start sucking in every other country's cultural trends because of a dancing/singing anime girl from a concert that didn't even happen in America?
Not that uncommon/weird.
Just an FYI, Hatsune Miku has had 3 concerts in the US. Twice in San Francisco and once in New York City. They weren't the holographic concerts though. Just a projection onto a screen.
Is this flat, so no matter what way you look you're seeing the same picture. Or is it completely 3D?
It's just projected onto glass. You can see it well here at the start and at 2:40.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2egumdBwsg&feature=related
Huh?
I swear, some of you around here aren't happy if its not a school girl covered in tentacles.
Ok, again, this is ridiculous because a pre-rendered animation is being treated as a person. Fact.
No people evolved to treat pre-rendered 3D images as people or as an idol. Fact.
These people here are doing that. Fact.
While I can imagine in the future a dynamic AI, with some advanced sensory interface will become an entertainment icon, this is not that.
I have no clue what you're prattling on about sex, male, female, w/e, that has no application to anything I've said.
With that said, my original point was, for anyone to treat this as anything more then animation is ridiculous. From the video, it looks like people in the audience aren't just looking at an animation. There in lies the problem. Also the absurdity. If you do not realize this ridiculous on the level of mankind, then my words are wasted.
Nothing I've said is about bashing a culture, a people, a race, it's about how ridiculous this is. But I guess if you took what I said and applied it to the Japanese culture (as the audience is a part of that culture) then you might surmise the culture has warped into some bizarre social construct as to allow people to blur the lines of reality.
Sure the culture might be different, but hey, I guess sacrificing people is fine, why not allow polygamy? Incest? Marrying your daughters? All cultural trends. Where's the line drawn? For me this is approaching a perversion on equal magnitude to the above, and is only to the detriment of that society. Of course it is a "victimless" perversion, but it may also develop into some sort of pacifier cultural behavior to replace normal human social interation/skills/everything else I can't think of on the spot.
Now, before you get your suspenders all up in a huff, try to think about how I am not trying to engage you in an argument, and how I am exploring the negative implications of such concerts and all branching forms of media. (Defending things is fine, but just make sure you're approaching the argument from all angles, not just one)
One of the dancers used for Hatsune Miku's character animations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DE7g_SzRg
The Japanese get way more crazy. You'll have some that randomly way, you have the chants, you have others who do all the dances, etc.
wotagei. I do the same thing at when I go to a Momusu or Berryz concert. I still have yet to go to a C-ute or S/Mileage concert though.
No way would you find me punching my fists in the air to a 3D cartoon on stage singing shitty music. And what is with the Japanese and their love for young female anime cartoons showing their knickers?
I bought a Japanese RPG for the PS3 called Star Ocean and it has a similar female anime character in it.