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It's launch time!

iPhone5 it's sold out :rolleyes:

Fuck you Apple marketing. They do this shit on purpose to grab headlines, by limiting supply on launch, to say it sold out. Apple knows full well roughly how many they need to have ready for a world wide launch. If it it's 8 million iPhone5's selling the first week, they will just have 7 million ready, knowing full well they could have 10 million ready and waiting, but wanna grab that big news headline, saying it's sold out.

Marketing / Sales 101; limit supply for higher demand. If people say hurry up, you better order and buy it now before they are all sold out, as opposed to say, oh we have tons of these in stock, don't worry, we'll have enough for when your ready to buy.
 
Zorachus said:
iPhone5 it's sold out :rolleyes:

Fuck you Apple marketing. They do this shit on purpose to grab headlines, by limiting supply on launch, to say it sold out. Apple knows full well roughly how many they need to have ready for a world wide launch. If it it's 8 million iPhone5's selling the first week, they will just have 7 million ready, knowing full well they could have 10 million ready and waiting, but wanna grab that big news headline, saying it's sold out.

Marketing / Sales 101; limit supply for higher demand. If people say hurry up, you better order and buy it now before they are all sold out, as opposed to say, oh we have tons of these in stock, don't worry, we'll have enough for when your ready to buy.
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They said you better run like a gazelle being hunted by a lioness when it was coming out for Verizon (the iPhone 4 I mean, back in February 2010), but yet I was the first one there that morning, to be welcomed to the Verizon store by 20 bored employees. :rolleyes:

Nobody was there. Now I know this is a new phone and all that, etc etc. But I bet it'll be just a few of us there next Friday morning.
 
Zorachus said:
iPhone5 it's sold out :rolleyes:

Fuck you Apple marketing. They do this shit on purpose to grab headlines, by limiting supply on launch, to say it sold out. Apple knows full well roughly how many they need to have ready for a world wide launch. If it it's 8 million iPhone5's selling the first week, they will just have 7 million ready, knowing full well they could have 10 million ready and waiting, but wanna grab that big news headline, saying it's sold out.

Marketing / Sales 101; limit supply for higher demand. If people say hurry up, you better order and buy it now before they are all sold out, as opposed to say, oh we have tons of these in stock, don't worry, we'll have enough for when your ready to buy.
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Yea, it has nothing to do with the countless reports of Sharp having supply issues producing the LCDs we've been hearing about for weeks. Any phone selling 5+ million its first week is likely to have supply issues.

Also, pre-order is only delayed by 5 days (9/26) at Verizon so there's going to be a good supply available even after release.
 
The buzz for the iPhone5 is not nearly what it was two years ago for the iPhone4. I am an Android fan, but I read all the Tech forums, and Apple fan sites, and it seems like many are ho hum on the new iPhone5, not many are freaking out for it like I remember the iPhone4 had crazy hype and people begging for that the i4.

To me the iPhone4 was the biggest deal for Apple, it was the first iPhone with the all new industrial and beautiful design, the first with the "retina" display, it was a real game changer for the smartphone world back in 2010. In 2012 Apple just sort of gives us more of the same, nothing like a jump from the 3GS to the iPhone4. The iPhone5 from the 4/4S does not feel like such a big deal as back in 2010.

To me am I disappointed, the iOS UI still is pretty much overall the same now for 5 years, still no widgets, no led notification light, and still just a screen full of app icons. To me it looks boring and outdated now in 2012, they need to freshen it up.

And the design of the iPhone5, yes it is very nice and solidly built, but it is a continuation for a third year in row of the same design, nothing new really.

Oh well, guess we have to now wait till 2014 for the iPhone6 to see a new design again and new UI.
 
4S -> 5 is definitively less of a change than 3GS -> 4.
 
obs said:
4S -> 5 is definitively less of a change than 3GS -> 4.
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I was hoping Apple would do that again, change it up and be super cool like going from the iPhone3GS to the iPhone4, which was night and day different, and a huge upgrade, you really felt like you got something crazy better going from the 3GS to the 4, but that feeling is just not there for the 5 from the 4S.
 
Zorachus said:
I was hoping Apple would do that again, change it up and be super cool like going from the iPhone3GS to the iPhone4, which was night and day different, and a huge upgrade, you really felt like you got something crazy better going from the 3GS to the 4, but that feeling is just not there for the 5 from the 4S.
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I was hoping that it'd shoot missiles and eat children. Disappointing. :rolleyes:
 
Zorachus said:
I was hoping Apple would do that again, change it up and be super cool like going from the iPhone3GS to the iPhone4, which was night and day different, and a huge upgrade, you really felt like you got something crazy better going from the 3GS to the 4, but that feeling is just not there for the 5 from the 4S.
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Yea, going from 3G to 4 was a HUGE upgrade for me at the time. 4 to 5 is nice, but mostly because of LTE.

I also like how I can always sell my old phone for the price of the new on contract phone. Sold 3G for over $200 and will sell my 4 for about $200. Not really possible with most Android phones (Nexus S came out after 4 and will fetch maybe $100).
 
obs said:
Yea, going from 3G to 4 was a HUGE upgrade for me at the time. 4 to 5 is nice, but mostly because of LTE.

I also like how I can always sell my old phone for the price of the new on contract phone. Sold 3G for over $200 and will sell my 4 for about $200. Not really possible with most Android phones (Nexus S came out after 4 and will fetch maybe $100).
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The resale value of old iPhone's is amazing, easily double that of Android.
 
Zorachus said:
iPhone5 it's sold out :rolleyes:

Fuck you Apple marketing. They do this shit on purpose to grab headlines, by limiting supply on launch, to say it sold out. Apple knows full well roughly how many they need to have ready for a world wide launch. If it it's 8 million iPhone5's selling the first week, they will just have 7 million ready, knowing full well they could have 10 million ready and waiting, but wanna grab that big news headline, saying it's sold out.
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It's called limited production capacity? Sure they could wait another 2 weeks for the factories to churn out another 3 million phones to prepare for a launch, but they would lose sales since in those two weeks a lot of people probably would have already switched to the Android competition since the 4S is quite outdated by this point.
 
obs said:
4S -> 5 is definitively less of a change than 3GS -> 4.
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how do you figure that?

3GS->4 same cpu architecture with a speed boost in mhz, double GPU new screen and new case / design, front camera.

4s->5 New cpu arch, double GPU power again, new screen, new screen format, similar / revised case design, better back camera, LTE vs 3G, new connector.

sounds like more changes to me :p
 
obs said:
4S -> 5 is definitively less of a change than 3GS -> 4.
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I am really not expecting a big design/innovative change until iPhone 6 (which will more than likely be called the "New" iPhone or stop using numbers and use something else like all the other manufactuers do; Ex: Droid Eris,Droid X, Droid RAZR... Etc). I remember thinking, "Wow, the Iphone 5 looks just like the previous 2," but then I watched the Apple keynote and noticed that the first 3 iPhone releases looked the same too with;

iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS

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That picture above doesn't show the iPhone 5, but if we are looking for a pattern here, I predict that the next BIG change in the iPhone will be next year. I really don't think there will be a iPhone 5S.
 
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Put this way, to your average phone user, not tech nerds like us.

Back in 2010, you have two phones sitting on desk, a iPhone3GS and brand new iPhone4. To the average user the iPhone4 instantly grabs their attention, with the beautiful new industrial design, and high res "retina' display, it is night and day a HUGE upgrade over the the 3GS. No question the iPhone4 is a must have device to get back then, even Android phones didn't really compare.

Now fast forward to today, put a iPhone4S and an iPhone5 on a desk, I don't think the average user will be foaming at the mouth for the iPhone5 like they were with the 4 over the the 3GS. The iPhone5 still looks much pretty the same like the iPhone4/4S, same design, pretty much the same "retina' screen, only a hair taller now, and thinner now. And iOS6 doesn't look overall that much different at all lately, pretty much the same old OS still. And now in 2012 Android has finally matured, has some really nice phones to offer now like the HTC One X and Galaxy SIII, where as back in 2010, Android was still pretty rough and not in the same league.

And this Fall we have the Nokia Lumia 920 and upcoming Nexus 5.0.

To me the iPhone5 is just a big meh, it's cool, but not ground breaking awesome. It's more the iOS is looking dated and stale lately, it needs a refreshing and a new UI, which is coming in either iOS7 or iOS8 for sure. Even Apple said last year, something along the lines that future iOS's will get an new UI down the line.
 
Pylon said:
About the thinness claim - the RAZR, the Ascend, and other phones have camera humps that are significantly thicker than 7.6mm (I think 9 or 10mm for the RAZR). The iPhone 5 is 7.6mm all the way through.
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Thickest point on the razr 7.1 mm. The thinnest parts are thinner.
 
It's funny how Apple want to have their cake and eat it too.

First they claim specs don't matter, who cares if Android phones have feature X, because iPhone is so smooth and has the best experience.

Then they turn around and say we have a cpu/gpu 2x as fast, camera that's 40% faster etc. If your previous iPhone was so great, why do you need to announce spec bumps as a feature?
 
Zorachus said:
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I was just telling myself reading that, that if this guy mentions "led notification light" one more time, i'm going to stop reading any future posts by him. lol

Agree with you about iPhone 5. Very very "meh."
 
MrCrispy said:
It's funny how Apple want to have their cake and eat it too.

First they claim specs don't matter, who cares if Android phones have feature X, because iPhone is so smooth and has the best experience.

Then they turn around and say we have a cpu/gpu 2x as fast, camera that's 40% faster etc. If your previous iPhone was so great, why do you need to announce spec bumps as a feature?
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They've always done that as far as i'm aware. Even before Android was a major competitor. I've watched all, if not most of the Apple Keynotes since the iPhone launch. But yes, they certainly do emphasize specs more lately; mostly because of the slow-down of innovation that made the first iPhone so revolutionary.
 
zamardii said:
I was just telling myself reading that, that if this guy mentions "led notification light" one more time, i'm going to stop reading any future posts by him. lol

Agree with you about iPhone 5. Very very "meh."
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention, the iPhone5 still doesn't have an LED notification light :p It's not a smartphone without that light :)

The Nexus-5.0 will have five LED lights all over the front, a light for each notification
 
Sony has actually been getting its head out of its ass lately.... surprisingly...

see: Sony AOSP support for the Xperia S....
 
With the iPhone5 being super thin, will this force all future Android phones, to also go the thin route to match the iPhone5 ? the iPhone5 at 7.6mm top to bottom the same thinness throughout, is pretty impressive, I think other phones that are that thin, have a bump somewhere on the top or bottom where that part is like 10mm thick.
 
Zorachus said:
With the iPhone5 being super thin, will this force all future Android phones, to also go the thin route to match the iPhone5 ? the iPhone5 at 7.6mm top to bottom the same thinness throughout, is pretty impressive, I think other phones that are that thin, have a bump somewhere on the top or bottom where that part is like 10mm thick.
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I'd rather have something like the razr maxx hd thats almost as thin and has a 3300mah battery and not a tiny 1400 mah battery. Talk time on the razr maxx hd is 3 times as long as the iphone 5.

I have the verizon galaxy nexus. Maybe motorola will make a nexus maxx phone.
 
Zorachus said:
With the iPhone5 being super thin, will this force all future Android phones, to also go the thin route to match the iPhone5 ? the iPhone5 at 7.6mm top to bottom the same thinness throughout, is pretty impressive, I think other phones that are that thin, have a bump somewhere on the top or bottom where that part is like 10mm thick.
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I hope not. While thin is nice (Disassemble your phone and hold the screen assembly only --- a 2 mm thick device would be sick), I think 8-9mm is the 'sweet spot' where it's not too thick, but still has room for a decent battery.
 
vsboxerboy said:
People are already lined up:

http://youtu.be/6668cxupH98

who has nothing better to do for 8 days than to stand in line to spend money?
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That is just so sad, when society has their values so ass backwards :rolleyes: People are dying for us in the military overseas...the economy is near what the Great Depressions was, people lucky to have a job, and barely paying their bills.

At the end of the day this new is just a bunch of Chinese made parts thrown together by child labor, yet people foam at the mouth to be first in line to get one. Such a strange phenomenon.
 
Zorachus said:
That is just so sad, when society has their values so ass backwards :rolleyes: People are dying for us in the military overseas...the economy is near what the Great Depressions was, people lucky to have a job, and barely paying their bills.

At the end of the day this new is just a bunch of Chinese made parts thrown together by child labor, yet people foam at the mouth to be first in line to get one. Such a strange phenomenon.
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lol, the economy is nowhere near as bad it as during the GD.
 
blahblahyoutoo said:
lol, the economy is nowhere near as bad it as during the GD.
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Not for people I know in the Building industry. A lot of friends and old acquaintances I know, all work in the custom home business, and has been hit hard since 2008. Old guys in that industry with 35+ years experience, all say, they have never seen anything close to this bad before. They said in the 1980's it got bad for a year or so, then bounced back, but this is going on 4 years now, and is really really bad.

The building industry is in a great depression. Never been this bad since before WW2. But I hear this is turning around slowly, and looks like end of this year and early next, things will finally start to pick up a hair, and the forecast is that in the next year or two or should be getting better again.
 
I honestly do not get this hype for the iPhone5, it's not a ground breaking new phone. An iPhone4S with iOS6 is very close to the same device. Ok the iPhone5 is a hair taller, and thinner, ok...

But what does the iPhone5 do that the iPhone4s with iOS6 can't ? Besides showing a 5th row of app icons, and faster network speeds in some areas.

I still say going from a 3GS to the 4 was a much bigger upgrade, and worthy of the hype.
 
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Zorachus said:
I honestly do not get this hype for the iPhone5, it's not a ground breaking new phone. An iPhone4S with iOS6 is very close to the same device. Ok the iPhone5 is a hair taller, and thinner, ok...

But what does the iPhone5 do that the iPhone4s with iOS6 can't ? Besides showing a 5th row of app icons, and faster network speeds in some areas.

I still say going from a 3GS to the 4 was a much bigger upgrade, and worthy of the hype.
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The iPhone 4S is not the latest and greatest...the iPhone 5 is.

This is basic dynamics of human interaction - people want what's cool. The Galaxy Nexus is a nice phone...but no one other than hard core nerds recognize it. The iPhone is recognized by everybody
 
ComputerBox34 said:
The iPhone 4S is not the latest and greatest...the iPhone 5 is.

This is basic dynamics of human interaction - people want what's cool. The Galaxy Nexus is a nice phone...but no one other than hard core nerds recognize it. The iPhone is recognized by everybody
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I understand. Just saying, if I am going to upgrade out of contract and pay the $600 ca$h it better be a big upgrade worthy of that money. If you were on the iPhone3GS for one year, I truly thought going to the iPhone4 was totally worth buying out of contract, that new HD screen, and industrial design was a major update over the 3GS.

Then the 4S came out, and I can't see any reason to upgrade out of contract to that, if you already had the iPhone4. Now we have the iPhone5, and lets say your on an iPhone4S, do you think it is a $600 out of contract worthy upgrade ? I can not answer that, to me it seems like a middle upgrade, yes it's faster, a little bigger screen, thinner, but iOS6 is the same on both phones, and that is what you use the most, the actual software, and they are exactly the same for both phones. And the new i5 looks design wise pretty similar to the 4/4S.

Now Nexus phones are radically upgraded each release, plus the main reason is, they are the first with the brand new OS. I would say each nexus phone was a big upgrade over the previous, except the Nexus-S from the Nexus-One, that was more of a side grade.
 
Zorachus said:
Not for people I know in the Building industry. A lot of friends and old acquaintances I know, all work in the custom home business, and has been hit hard since 2008. Old guys in that industry with 35+ years experience, all say, they have never seen anything close to this bad before. They said in the 1980's it got bad for a year or so, then bounced back, but this is going on 4 years now, and is really really bad.

The building industry is in a great depression. Never been this bad since before WW2. But I hear this is turning around slowly, and looks like end of this year and early next, things will finally start to pick up a hair, and the forecast is that in the next year or two or should be getting better again.
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c'mon, lets not cherry pick one example and claim the sky is falling.
no doubt it's the worst since the GD, but they're not GD levels (25%+ unemployment, bread lines).
 
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