is there are reason for SLI?

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with the top end cards out today handling anything you throw at them, and the many capatiblity issues with SLI drivers, and the less than 2X preformance, why invest?
 
you do it when

1. you want maximum performance
2. you want e-penis enlargement
3. you have the money to spend and its not a issue b/c your RICK James bitch.!
 
Running games at ridiculous resolutions such as 2096x, esp when using projection screens. And theres a great upgradability elemnt to it, if you only buy one. Get top of the line equipment now, and get more power when its actually needed.
 
jsn117 said:
with the top end cards out today handling anything you throw at them, and the many capatiblity issues with SLI drivers, and the less than 2X preformance, why invest?
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So how are things going with your job at ATI?

:rolleyes:

I have two SLI sets: 6600GT and 6800GT. The "compatibility issues" I've experienced playing many games on them are: Riddick doesn't work in SLI. Berserk mode in Doom3 Resurrection of Evil distorts.

The performance of my 6800GT SLI rig is much higher than any single card at many games. Single cards don't "handle" 16X12 4X8X at Doom3 and Far Cry.
Single cards (out now) won't "handle" Quake 4.
 
jsn117 said:
with the top end cards out today handling anything you throw at them, and the many capatiblity issues with SLI drivers, and the less than 2X preformance, why invest?
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because I play at 2048x1536 with 6xAA/16xAF everything maxed

Do you?
 
If you have money to spend why not?

At the moment I would say no, see how the R520s and G80s come out, before commiting to a second card
 
Hate_Bot said:
If you have money to spend why not?

At the moment I would say no, see how the R520s and G80s come out, before commiting to a second card
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Of course we have no idea when these cards will actually be for sale or what they will cost, but what the heck? HateBot thinks you should wait!
 
Rollo said:
Of course we have no idea when these cards will actually be for sale or what they will cost, but what the heck? HateBot thinks you should wait!
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Ide be willing to wait, a 6800GT is more then enough for now. What if they come out in 2 months? and you find out that the setup yyou just payed 800+ dollars for is absolete? ATI has said that it will come out in the summer. The Xbox2 is being revealed (it has an R520 chip inside it) all signs point to that it's coming out in some due time...
 
Hate_Bot said:
Ide be willing to wait, a 6800GT is more then enough for now. What if they come out in 2 months? and you find out that the setup yyou just payed 800+ dollars for is absolete? ATI has said that it will come out in the summer. The Xbox2 is being revealed (it has an R520 chip inside it) all signs point to that it's coming out in some due time...
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I've got news for you- I don't even know what a next gen chip can give me above what I already have?

The highest monitor can do 85Hz at is 16X12- and I can run any game out there at 16X12 4X8X now with 6800GT SLI. It does pretty good at 19X14 as well, but my monitor only does 70Hz at that res, a little low for me.

So how will my 6800GT SLI be "obsolete" running every game out there at 16X12 4X8X or higher? :rolleyes:

Link to where ATI has said the R520 will be available for sale this summer and the cost? Last I saw, XBox2 was slated for Christmas this year, not June.
 
The Xbox2 is being revealed (it has an R520 chip inside it)
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Xbox2 with R520? Doesnt sound good. How will ATI produce enough chips for Xbox and Dell. You will not see MSRP on R520 for a long time.
 
GlimmerMan said:
Xbox2 with R520? Doesnt sound good. How will ATI produce enough chips for Xbox and Dell. You will not see MSRP on R520 for a long time.
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well it's not the R520 per-say. It's like an R500

and then why wouldnt Nvidia have trouble producing a card for the Playstations chip? and I thought dell used Nvidia cards primarily.
 
2x 6800U will be good, but with a little more $ you can get fx55 + x850xtpe and play all games with 1600x1200 with AA/AF maxed plus ocd cpu.. ;)
 
centvalny said:
2x 6800U will be good, but with a little more $ you can get fx55 + x850xtpe and play all games with 1600x1200 with AA/AF maxed plus ocd cpu.. ;)
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Nope- X850XT PE is a SLOW set compared to a 6800GT or 6800U SLI rig. S-L-O-W?
(not to mention the laughable lack of SM3 and HDR on a $500 card)

http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041215/ati-13.html
Ouch. A pathetic, unplayable 37fps at 16X12 4X8X.

http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/sli-performance-18.html
Can you say 53.9fps and 61fps? Total domination of dated ATI retread?

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041215/ati-11.html
D'oh! Another unplayable, slow average- 38.5fps. I guess that's two games and their licenses you won't be playing "maxed" on a X850XT PE?

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/sli-performance-16.html
Hmmm. 68.3 and 73.4fps. Total domination, again.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041215/ati-15.html
64.7fps- at least this time the game is playable. :rolleyes:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/sli-performance-23.html
Most of us would rather play at 84 or 93fps though?

All benches done on Tom's A64 4000+/nForce 4 test rig- so a fair comparison.
 
centvalny said:
2x 6800U will be good, but with a little more $ you can get fx55 + x850xtpe and play all games with 1600x1200 with AA/AF maxed plus ocd cpu.. ;)
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LMAO ur freaking funny dude..I cant believe you said.."with a little more $" haha...so ur gonna pay a little more $ for decrease in performance...sweet...lmao
 
Alright fine, if you want the fastest. 6800Ultrasx2 is the fastest.

If you want the fastest single card, X850XT-PE is the fastest

can we drop this>?
 
Rollo said:
Nope- X850XT PE is a SLOW set compared to a 6800GT or 6800U SLI rig. S-L-O-W?
(not to mention the laughable lack of SM3 and HDR on a $500 card)

http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041215/ati-13.html
Ouch. A pathetic, unplayable 37fps at 16X12 4X8X.

http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/sli-performance-18.html
Can you say 53.9fps and 61fps? Total domination of dated ATI retread?

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041215/ati-11.html
D'oh! Another unplayable, slow average- 38.5fps. I guess that's two games and their licenses you won't be playing "maxed" on a X850XT PE?

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/sli-performance-16.html
Hmmm. 68.3 and 73.4fps. Total domination, again.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041215/ati-15.html
64.7fps- at least this time the game is playable. :rolleyes:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/sli-performance-23.html
Most of us would rather play at 84 or 93fps though?

All benches done on Tom's A64 4000+/nForce 4 test rig- so a fair comparison.
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You do realize anything over 35 or sp FPS makes nill difference.

Unplayable at 38fps?

Hah. UNplayable is in the 20s and lower, my friend.
 
Komataguri said:
You do realize anything over 35 or sp FPS makes nill difference.

Unplayable at 38fps?

Hah. UNplayable is in the 20s and lower, my friend.
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thats an average. if its averaging 35, you better believe its going to drop to 20 at some points.

and anything above 35 does not make a nil difference. i dont care what you say - my games feel smoother at higher framerates

(no, i do not own SLI, and probably never will)
 
Komataguri said:
You do realize anything over 35 or sp FPS makes nill difference.

Unplayable at 38fps?

Hah. UNplayable is in the 20s and lower, my friend.
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I can certainly see the difference between 30 and 40, the difference between 40 and 50, and the difference between 50 and 60. After 60 I don't see any.

But 35 frames per second is unacceptable, especially in a fast paced shooter like UT2004.
 
Hate_Bot said:
well it's not the R520 per-say. It's like an R500

and then why wouldnt Nvidia have trouble producing a card for the Playstations chip? and I thought dell used Nvidia cards primarily.
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PSX or PS2, I was under the impression the PS2 was some no-name chip they contracted that happend to work very well.
 
You do realize anything over 35 or sp FPS makes nill difference.

Unplayable at 38fps?

Hah. UNplayable is in the 20s and lower, my friend.
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You apparently don't understand a couple things:

1. If the AVERAGE fps is only 38, the MINIMUM is surely below 30fps

2. 30fps of individually rendered images on a computer isn't like watching 30fps motion pictures, so it's easy to tell the difference between 60 and 30 fps. It's a pretty common misconception that 30fps is all that is needed for games.
 
aZn_plyR said:
LMAO ur freaking funny dude..I cant believe you said.."with a little more $" haha...so ur gonna pay a little more $ for decrease in performance...sweet...lmao
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What performance you talkin bout? Gaming or benching... ;)
@ Rollo....Nice scores :D
 
centvalny said:
What performance you talkin bout? Gaming or benching... ;)
@ Rollo....Nice scores :D
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I've owned a X800XT PE as well, I can tell you the 6800GT SLI provides a smoother gaming experience at higher settings.

Thanks- I had a lot of fun benching the SLI sets. It was sort of depressing to sell the 6800NU set, but having three sets for one computer was definitely overkill.
 
Rollo said:
I've owned a X800XT PE as well, I can tell you the 6800GT SLI provides a smoother gaming experience at higher settings.

Thanks- I had a lot of fun benching the SLI sets. It was sort of depressing to sell the 6800NU set, but having three sets for one computer was definitely overkill.
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Heres my AM3 with 1.69V on core and 3D '01 @ 38500...will try '05&03...http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1898221347
 
Bragging rights seems fairly obvious, and/or having to much money to spend. ;)
 
playing with SLI is a whole another type of experience. ask rollo.
 
jsn117 said:
with the top end cards out today handling anything you throw at them, and the many capatiblity issues with SLI drivers, and the less than 2X preformance, why invest?
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obyj34 said:
theres a great upgradability elemnt to it, if you only buy one. Get top of the line equipment now, and get more power when its actually needed.
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i feel that this is the best reason to get an sli board + a pci-e video card.
i see no reason to buy two at the moment unless you're just trying to burn money ;)
 
It's not about "burning money" - it's about having 16X12 4X8X as your starting point for game settings.

Higher resolution is just better- more detail to game, more pixels to game characters.
 
I personally notice even a difference between 120 fps and 80 fps. I've verified it numerous times. So I definitely notice between 30 and 60, And Rollo is correct. If your game is running that low, it'll be much lower in other sections. A solid, 100% complete 30 fps game can be playable, but that's with no dips. And it still feels laggy....especially fps'.
 
Yeah but we all do realize that your 1600x1200 res with AA and AF up all the way is only temporary... I realize if you had the money go ahead sure two 6800UEEs would be great. Of course the thing is every top end card/solution gets topled. I could never imagine spending 800 dollars on two 6800GTs that will give me temp bragging rights untill the next high end card is out for less than what I payed and much better...
I felt I just needed to explain my views agianst AMR (when it comes out) and SLi.
Meh to each their own.
 
rollo: true. if i could justify the price of upgrading my 754 rig, i'd go with an sli board, but with one card, probably a 6800gt. then get the second one when more demanding games come out.
i think part of my problem is the 1280x1024px lcd i have. no way of going over that, and all games i play run just fine at 4x+16x for now. more would be overkill in my case ;)
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
rollo: true. if i could justify the price of upgrading my 754 rig, i'd go with an sli board, but with one card, probably a 6800gt. then get the second one when more demanding games come out.
i think part of my problem is the 1280x1024px lcd i have. no way of going over that, and all games i play run just fine at 4x+16x for now. more would be overkill in my case ;)
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SLI benefits are considerably diminished at 12X10, can't argue that.
 
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