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How do you know you are going to find “Mr. Right” when you are using an online dating service? Duh, misuse police department resources to run a background check on potential dates.
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Internet Dating Done Wrong
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Rydawg5143
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huh?
If I had the means I would. then again you can get anyones* criminal record free online.
tacosareveryyummy
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^^^^THis
There a lot of services out there that do this for you as it is now, so overall i don't really see anything wrong with somebody that already has direct access to this information using it without paying somebody else to do it for them. Unless there are rules that state you can't lookup somebodies information unless they are actively being investigated I don't really see much wrong here. They were lookup in information for personal use yes, however they were not selling the information. I am surprised she wasn't given a warning first, then fired. Instead her and somebody that helped her a few times both get fired, seems kinda harsh, unless like I said, there are rules against that.
maademperor
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classified information is classified information...that would be like working at a hospital and using your resources to get ahold of thier medical history (which I did once and I was pretty pleased considering this chicks GYN visits were double digit in a two month period? couldnt understand the medical jargon but figured I'd leave it alone)
The article mentions vehicle and driver information; last I checked, that is NOT public record. Criminal history, YES, driving record, NO.
She deserves to be fired for:
1. Breaking the rules in a position that could cause harm
2. Being an idiot
3. Being ugly (if she hasn't had a date in 20 years...)
She deserves to be fired for:
1. Breaking the rules in a position that could cause harm
2. Being an idiot
3. Being ugly (if she hasn't had a date in 20 years...)
Criminal information is public information. Medical information is private information.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Maybe she's hot as hell and got divorced or became a widow recently?
If it against policy, then she got what she deserves. where i work I can get access to sensitive customer info and if i accessed it, I would be canned and rightly so.
InorganicMatter
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We can do background checks at the family business, we offered to check out a dude my aunt is dating. The whole family's a little wary, since her last guy turned out to be a criminal who served time. 
Well she hasn't been on a date in 20 years making her at least 35ish which isn't a good sign for hotness. She has also proven to lack brain power of even the common nature. I vote for a trial run of the population purification process.
Women control our species future less stupid women means an over increase in intelligent humans. Good for everyone except maybe fast food restaurants as there employment pool will shrink.
and a loser for being 35, single, and a dead end job
yes but there are VERY strict rules on using ones position to get it. your free to go to the court house and look up anything you want but as LE worker you can't get away with using your position to do it. she would have been free to have gone and done it from home on her own time
maademperor
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it didnt say this database only housed public or criminal information. It said " a classified search database" which indicates to me you arent supposed to be looking at it without proper cause...I was free to lookup that chick's medical history IF I had needed to contact her primary care/next of kin/update a record or whatever, but my motivations were not on the level, thus I (like these chicks) was in quasi-illegal territory. (mind you I met the chick at the hospital)
I don't see the harm on this. Millions of people use resources at their company for personal use. In this case, they were basically filtering out the stupid criminals (the ones who get caught). You could see it as the clerks were trying to protect the safety of their friend. I wonder if the two clerks are going to try suing the department for not protecting the public. How would this have gone over if the clerks' friend ended up getting raped or killed because they couldn't spend 2 minutes to look somebody up?
And millions of people are also deliberately violating company policy by using resources for for personal use. I won't deny that I'm guilty of it myself.
She could have looked up information at home, on her own 2 minutes. And the guy(s) might have had perfectly clean records and still be rapists or killers.
As to what she did: I would if I could, and so would most other people, if they thought they wouldn't get caught.
Workers who are allowed to use work PCs to lookup personal stuff on the Internet are, overall, more productive than those who are not.
If I'm at work, and I'm told I can't use the network to check my personal email - I don't care if you think it's right or not, I am going to be irritated, that's a fact, and I'm not going to want to go "above and beyond" what is required of me to do my job like I might have otherwise.
Workers who are allowed to use work PCs to lookup personal stuff on the Internet are, overall, more productive than those who are not.
If I'm at work, and I'm told I can't use the network to check my personal email - I don't care if you think it's right or not, I am going to be irritated, that's a fact, and I'm not going to want to go "above and beyond" what is required of me to do my job like I might have otherwise.
While I think it sucks that the people got fired, I won't blame the agency they worked for for firing them. When you have access to anyone's personal information such as this, there are policies in place you have to follow and one of them is that you cannot look up information on people which is not related to work. Not only are policies in place, I'm sure the vast majority of agencies, especially government agencies require you to sign a confidentiality agreement as well as something else which states you understand and will abide by the rules. These two did not abide by those rules, were caught and ended up fired.
In this case, the people had access to all the information on driver's records and vehicle registration records. There is a lot of information available in those records which is not public information. The fact that the data exists in the system means it is confidential information even if the information is publicly available elsewhere. They are not allowed to make use of that data for personal reasons no matter what. If they had done searches of public archives and such, that would have been fine.
At a previous job, I had access to insane amounts of personal data including but not limited to business financial data, personal information of the owners of the businesses, business audit information, business tax information, personal tax information including income, personal tax audits, driver's information and vehicle registration data. I was asked by many people I knew for information on one thing or another and told every one of them to shove it as I didn't feel like getting fired and possibly jailed and fined for the release of confidential information. Even something seemingly innocuous such as someone's address which I could find in the phone book would have been grounds for being fired if I had used the systems to access that information. Sure, the person is in the phone book and therefore the address is public knowledge but I didn't look in the phone book to get the information which is where the problem is.
All the information in the system is confidential no matter what and using the system to access that information is illegal except when specifically required to perform your job.
In this case, the people had access to all the information on driver's records and vehicle registration records. There is a lot of information available in those records which is not public information. The fact that the data exists in the system means it is confidential information even if the information is publicly available elsewhere. They are not allowed to make use of that data for personal reasons no matter what. If they had done searches of public archives and such, that would have been fine.
At a previous job, I had access to insane amounts of personal data including but not limited to business financial data, personal information of the owners of the businesses, business audit information, business tax information, personal tax information including income, personal tax audits, driver's information and vehicle registration data. I was asked by many people I knew for information on one thing or another and told every one of them to shove it as I didn't feel like getting fired and possibly jailed and fined for the release of confidential information. Even something seemingly innocuous such as someone's address which I could find in the phone book would have been grounds for being fired if I had used the systems to access that information. Sure, the person is in the phone book and therefore the address is public knowledge but I didn't look in the phone book to get the information which is where the problem is.
All the information in the system is confidential no matter what and using the system to access that information is illegal except when specifically required to perform your job.
Yep his post makes no sense at all.
My state lets you search online for free, some let you search for a one time or monthly fee. Criminal records are public info.
Actually, if you would have read my previous post you would see his post does make sense. I can tell you right now that the database you linked to for a search does not contain all the same information as an internal database. Also, the internal database is considered confidential information no matter what is contained in the database. I'm pretty sure the statutes which govern the confidentiality of information accessible by government employees in your state are publicly available. Search them out and read up. After reading them I'm sure you'll change your tune.
spacetrader
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agreed* the public database is what employers see... any case you took care of and expunged wont be seen there. the real databases, the ones the cops use, show everything you ever been accused for, no matter if you won or lost your case. everything is there.
maademperor
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sigh, the article plainly states, it was a confidential database. just because you work there doesnt mean you can access it for personal reasons (just like a hospital, bank or criminal agency). every state has a public criminal information center, but there is a good deal that is left out of those.
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Personally, I pre-screen all of my online dates to make sure they are comfortable with handcuffs.
marylandman
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thats a little creepy, your sister having a fiancée. she is marrying a woman? lol... do you mean she has a fiancé?