Also is anyone able to confirm that the Dell SAS 5/e can't see the disks if they're not in a raid config?
Is it a SAS 5/E or a PERC 5/e?
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Also is anyone able to confirm that the Dell SAS 5/e can't see the disks if they're not in a raid config?
Is it a SAS 5/E or a PERC 5/e?
I realize this thread hasn't been updated in a few months, but I want to compliment the forum for providing an interesting and useful thread. After 6 months I just finally got around to setting up my Omnistor se3016 JBOD chassis. It's currently attached to an IBM1015 HBA flashed over to LSI 9211 firmware. As mentioned in previous posts, these things are LOUD stock, especially the PS fan. I suppose that's ok in the basement or a well insulated server closet, but mine sits on the floor next to my work station, so first up was swapping out all of the fans. I went with 2 Vortex Cf-V12H 120mm case fans on sale at NewEgg and a Noctua 40mm NF A4X -10 inside the PS. This chassis went from a jet plane to quieter than my work station and still runs very cool. Problem one solved. Next up was addressing the 3Gbps expander. One very useful aspect of these chassis is the ability to segregate out the HDD connections on the back-plane. Each row across has a separate SAS connector. With the addition of a Intel 6Gbps expander card (for instance), this chassis can be a 'split' setup with two controllers addressing the HDDs. I have many older 3Gbps HDDs which I have to access periodically, so leaving the top row hooked up to the stock expander works for me with the other 3 rows hooked up to the Intel RES2SV240NC I installed. The other great aspect about these chassis is the half rack size which is very useful for 'out of rack' configurations like mine.
The Super-Micro SC846E16-R1200B (and similar) chassis are on sale on Ebay in various configurations. I have one of these hooked up to my server and it is excellent, but is extremely LOUD as well (5 case fans, 2 screaming PS fans). I'm going to have to address this with replacement fans at some point. There are several advantages to the SM product over the Omnistor 3016, the first being that it contains slots for 20 HDDs with redundant PS and is better built - better quality. It is also a full size chassis that will accept up to an EATX server main-board, so turning it into a full server is a possible future upgrade. I'm using mine as a disk array for now. Another advantage of the SM product is its built in 6Gbps back-plane - no need to add another expander card, BUT, the SM back-plane addresses all of the HDDs from a single SAS connection - so no 'split' setups. Being full size, it's also much larger and heavier than the 3016. The biggest issue is that after all of the modifications to the 3016, it was actually slightly more expensive than an empty SM SC846E16-R1200B JBOD chassis (no server parts). As with all situations, there are advantages and disadvantages to using any chassis, but I did have a lot of fun and satisfaction doing the mod. Here are a couple of reduced size pictures of my modified 3016. I soldered the power connection wires for the Intel RES2SV240 expander card. I noticed 'thatoneuser' posts got much 'feedback' for using wire-nuts, although in my opinion, the wire-nuts will work just fine. http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/PHubb1/slideshow/
According to the specs the SM back-plane is SAS2 compliant - (BPN-SAS2-846EL1). It contains a single SAS input (SFF 8087) to the expander chip which then addresses all 24 HDDs through the BP. They also make a model that has a dual input back-plane (BPN-SAS2-846EL2) for added redundancy using actual dual ported SAS HDDs, but that's not in mine.
I haven't changed out the fans in the SM unit yet, although it's pretty loud and I'm going to have to do it eventually. Yes- I saw that the fans are PWM which will make it a bit more expensive, but the fans that are really screaming are the two in the power supplies. I haven't opened them up yet to see what's inside the PS, but I'm hoping for regular 3 pin. The PS fans look to be 40mm size. Any info or suggestions you can provide for replacement fans will be much appreciated - I'm thinking I'll have to go with Noctua models. You've retired your 3016? It's perfect for my situation, I've actually grown to love it now that it's quiet and SAS2. Has anyone who's using the SM model as a straight DAS chassis posted anything on modding the fans? I noticed that most of the users with SM models have them set up as full servers but I don't really need another server right now, thus just using it as a DAS chassis.
thanks for the reply.
PHubb
...You need to use psu hack. Whenever you plug the power cable. Psu will on automatically. Or
Get something to mimic power on when power button is pressed...
i used 2 norco sa-3201 mounts to hold the back of mine up.
interestingly you can get them at walmart of all places lol
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Norco-Technologies-SA-3201-1U-Mounting-Brackets-For-Racks-Cabinet/39908845
Found one here for $139:
http://unixsurplus.com/product/sgi-...d-bay-sas-sata-ssd-san-array-35-nas-jbod-good
If anybody is interested this seller took and offer of $130 with $35 shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141564072780
Found one here for $139:
http://unixsurplus.com/product/sgi-...d-bay-sas-sata-ssd-san-array-35-nas-jbod-good
Better add in the cost of earplugsI got a lil crazy and went search for HP's MDS600 devices to find out these are damn amazing for pennies.
70 SAS/SATA disks in a 5U chassis with quad PSU/Controllers
The MDS600 supports 4TB disks so you are looking at 250ish TB of space to use.
All for around $600 or so on ebay.
Astonishing tech that is dirt cheap for SAS shelves.
Just over $70 to ship to Illinois via ground. Ouch.
I got a lil crazy and went search for HP's MDS600 devices to find out these are damn amazing for pennies.
70 SAS/SATA disks in a 5U chassis with quad PSU/Controllers
The MDS600 supports 4TB disks so you are looking at 250ish TB of space to use.
All for around $600 or so on ebay.
Astonishing tech that is dirt cheap for SAS shelves.
Does it support any disk and not just HP modified ones ? What about bigger disks ?
I just bought one of these
Anyone know the best way to mount them? Mine came with ears on the box and four posts on the back. No bolts, rails, etc. I have cage nuts and bolts (M10?) for my rack, but does it need more support for it?
Perfect fit.
That looks good. I was thinking of doing something like this myself. Attach the SSD, or a notebook HDD on the side. I'm just worried about the data if I move from an external cable to the internal one.
I got a lil crazy and went search for HP's MDS600 devices to find out these are damn amazing for pennies.
70 SAS/SATA disks in a 5U chassis with quad PSU/Controllers
The MDS600 supports 4TB disks so you are looking at 250ish TB of space to use.
All for around $600 or so on ebay.
Astonishing tech that is dirt cheap for SAS shelves.
Perfect fit.
...
6) make arduino web monitoring system, to mimic minimally for getting status, power off, power on, and restart. (* easy to do with ethershield and some sensors with extra components).
with much $$ with ipmi mini-itx, better get supermicro m-atx motherboard that less $$ than mini-itx version...
No need to get that creative - just get a MB with IPMI support.
PSU airflow is wrong. You've got the PSU exhaust pushing into the sidewall of the case. Not ideal. Might be better off using a flex-ATX PSU if you can get one with the right power rating..
I bought more of those. First one I got 2 years ago is still rocking. I tested the first of my new batch, works fine, makes as much noise as a space shuttle. I couldn't find the same 40mm fan I used last time so I bought another. The enclosure now boots and stops after a few seconds. Is it the fan for sure ? So many screws to go through...
I bought more of those. First one I got 2 years ago is still rocking. I tested the first of my new batch, works fine, makes as much noise as a space shuttle. I couldn't find the same 40mm fan I used last time so I bought another. The enclosure now boots and stops after a few seconds. Is it the fan for sure ? So many screws to go through...
I just finished replacing my 40mm fan with a noctua but I am running into issues with it shutting down after 10 seconds. I'm assuming because the fan speed isn't being reported. I have a red, black, white and blue cable on the old fan. Does anyone know which one reports that the fan is active and a way to fix it?
Original 40mm PSU fan - http://imgur.com/K8JeDwB
Thanks!
EDIT: Fixed. Soldered the blue wire to the noctua yellow wire. Everything good now.
Anyone know of any good 3.5 to 2.5 drive adapters out there that are confirmed working with the se3016? I need to put 1 ssd in a tray for a lab setup.
Can anyone who has done the fan mods post some pics of splicing in the new 40mm fan (I guess the Noctua that is recommended in this thread)? Since I have not attempted something like that pics and an explanation would be extremely helpful!
Also, to those of you who have changed the 80mm fans to 120mm, can you post those steps and instructions for modding the case as well?
Thanks!!