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Intel to launch Ivy Bridge in March 2012

Skulltrail said:
Is the Tri-Gate transistors and 22nm process type the only differences?
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IB is a shrink, but it is also getting some changes, including a new and faster DX11 GPU which supports OpenCL 1.1 (making IB an "APU" in AMD's terminology), PCIe 3.0 and a "20% CPU performance boost" which likely includes clock speed bumps.
 
pxc said:
IB is a shrink, but it is also getting some changes, including a new and faster DX11 GPU which supports OpenCL 1.1 (making IB an "APU" in AMD's terminology), PCIe 3.0 and a "20% CPU performance boost" which likely includes clock speed bumps.
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I wonder if it will be a 20% boost in INTELS favorite benchmarking program, SYSMark 2012 :rolleyes: I can't wait to open up those 35,000 line spreadsheets 20% faster than an AMD, heck I've been waiting my whole life for this actually :rolleyes:
 
teletran8 said:
I wonder if it will be a 20% boost in INTELS favorite benchmarking program, SYSMark 2012 :rolleyes: I can't wait to open up those 35,000 line spreadsheets 20% faster than an AMD, heck I've been waiting my whole life for this actually :rolleyes:
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No one knows (at least outside of Intel).

Have to wait till its out (or credible leaks come out). I doubt its 20% increase on average (but maybe?). I'd be happy with a 10% increase on average. Only thing we can know for sure is that it will be a lot faster than YOUR chip.
 
teletran8 said:
I wonder if it will be a 20% boost in INTELS favorite benchmarking program, SYSMark 2012 :rolleyes: I can't wait to open up those 35,000 line spreadsheets 20% faster than an AMD, heck I've been waiting my whole life for this actually :rolleyes:
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Intel isn't comparing their new processors to AMD, they don't need to. Their current ones beat AMD to hell and back already. Reality is here to stay, no sense in you getting upset about it.
 
RamonGTP said:
Intel isn't comparing their new processors to AMD, they don't need to. Their current ones beat AMD to hell and back already. Reality is here to stay, no sense in you getting upset about it.
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AMD 4.0Ghz Phenom II quad core or hex cpu technology is awesome in games. With all the cash you save on an AMD build you have plenty of cash to spend where it matters. On a HIGH end Graphics card. I just ordered a Gigabyte 570GTX with the money I saved. ;) What did you order with your leftover pennies? Maybe a new shiny Intel ballpoint Pen for your pocket protector? :D

With Intels CPU's you spend 3x-5x more currency for, and you only net a 10 percent improvement in PC gaming. Unless of course you spend 1,000.00+. Then what maybe 20 percent more in gaming haha. Yet if your smart you take that 200+ dollars you saved on your AMD build and get a sick graphics card or two for SLI.

Now if you were even more foolish, and spent 1000.00 on an Intel CPU and game. Well you could have gone SLI or TRI SLI with no extra costs on an AMD build, and have double the FPS easy or more. Oh the lulz!

But hey, Your smarter than I am. :D Keep it up!
 
teletran8 said:
AMD 4.0Ghz Phenom II quad core or hex cpu technology is awesome in games. With all the cash you save on an AMD build you have plenty of cash to spend where it matters. On a HIGH end Graphics card. I just ordered a Gigabyte 570GTX with the money I saved. ;) What did you order with your leftover pennies? Maybe a new shiny Intel ballpoint Pen for your pocket protector? :D

With Intels CPU's you spend 3x-5x more currency for, and you only net a 10 percent improvement in PC gaming. Unless of course you spend 1,000.00+. Then what maybe 20 percent more in gaming haha. Yet if your smart you take that 200+ dollars you saved on your AMD build and get a sick graphics card or two for SLI.

Now if you were even more foolish, and spent 1000.00 on an Intel CPU and game. Well you could have gone SLI or TRI SLI with no extra costs on an AMD build, and have double the FPS easy or more. Oh the lulz!

But hey, Your smarter than I am. :D Keep it up!
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You realize at stock speeds an i3 2100 beats the hex-core Phenom in some games, right?

There's no comparison anymore. If you're an AMD fan, you should be banking on Bulldozer being competitive. Lots of forum members are excited about Bulldozer, as it's AMD's first new product in a long time. Even Intel fanboys love the potential of Bulldozer being competitive, as it will lower the price of their chips. It's a win-win here.

Also, this is the [H]. This is the wrong place to be making fun of people for spending more on hardware for an extra few percent of performance.
 
teletran8 said:
AMD 4.0Ghz Phenom II quad core or hex cpu technology is awesome in games. With all the cash you save on an AMD build you have plenty of cash to spend where it matters. On a HIGH end Graphics card. I just ordered a Gigabyte 570GTX with the money I saved. ;) What did you order with your leftover pennies? Maybe a new shiny Intel ballpoint Pen for your pocket protector? :D!
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I never got the point of putting an expensive sound system into a 10 year old beater. Which is why for my 2 high end graphics card, the only choice was Intel. ;)
 
teletran8 said:
AMD 4.0Ghz Phenom II quad core or hex cpu technology is awesome in games. With all the cash you save on an AMD build you have plenty of cash to spend where it matters. On a HIGH end Graphics card. I just ordered a Gigabyte 570GTX with the money I saved. ;) What did you order with your leftover pennies? Maybe a new shiny Intel ballpoint Pen for your pocket protector? :D

With Intels CPU's you spend 3x-5x more currency for, and you only net a 10 percent improvement in PC gaming. Unless of course you spend 1,000.00+. Then what maybe 20 percent more in gaming haha. Yet if your smart you take that 200+ dollars you saved on your AMD build and get a sick graphics card or two for SLI.

Now if you were even more foolish, and spent 1000.00 on an Intel CPU and game. Well you could have gone SLI or TRI SLI with no extra costs on an AMD build, and have double the FPS easy or more. Oh the lulz!

But hey, Your smarter than I am. :D Keep it up!
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i7 2600k will kill it and doesn't cost 5x more. i7 2500k costs even less and still does the job.

Like you said, I'm smarter than you are. But now you also know there are Intel processors that exist that don't cost $1000 and still kill AMD.

If I went Tri-SLI I'd want a CPU that can actually keep up. Not sure why you wouldn't.
 
As for laptops, I hope to see an updated IB IGP with not only double the EUs, but also the 23.976Hz refresh bug fixed (not that it ever affected me enough to care [okay, I lied, I got a HD5450 to fix it], it's just a likke nitpick that I'd like to finally see fixed).

And, with the slightest chance in hell, a drop in upgrade for current laptop SB socket :D
 
teletran8 said:
AMD 4.0Ghz Phenom II quad core or hex cpu technology is awesome in games. With all the cash you save on an AMD build you have plenty of cash to spend where it matters. On a HIGH end Graphics card.

With Intels CPU's you spend 3x-5x more currency for, and you only net a 10 percent improvement in PC gaming. Unless of course you spend 1,000.00+. Then what maybe 20 percent more in gaming haha. Yet if your smart you take that 200+ dollars you saved on your AMD build and get a sick graphics card or two for SLI.

Now if you were even more foolish, and spent 1000.00 on an Intel CPU and game. Well you could have gone SLI or TRI SLI with no extra costs on an AMD build, and have double the FPS easy or more. Oh the lulz!

But hey, Your smarter than I am. :D Keep it up!
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a 4GHz Phenom II is not awesome in games. That is an adjective you would use for the best performing cpu which is not the Phenom II. It is still a good cpu though and I do agree that it would be a good choice for someone with a more limited budget so they can spend more on the videocard.

Intel cpus do not cost 3~5 times as much. Take the most recommended cpu, the 2500K. $180 at Microcenter. What kind of AMD cpu can you get for a third ($60)? How about a fifth ($36)? There is no way that if you bought an AMD cpu for those prices that the 2500K would be only 10% faster.

Maybe if you spent less time on the bullshits, and more time being productive, you could end up in a position in life where you could actually afford an Intel cpu. Ever thought of that?
 
teletran8 said:
I wonder if it will be a 20% boost in INTELS favorite benchmarking program, SYSMark 2012 :rolleyes: I can't wait to open up those 35,000 line spreadsheets 20% faster than an AMD, heck I've been waiting my whole life for this actually :rolleyes:
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Yeah god forbid they actually use real life loads to benchmark.

We open 20k lines spreadsheets almost everyday in our office.

BTW speaking about awesome Phenom II gaming cpu:

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Michaelius said:
Yeah god forbid they actually use real life loads to benchmark.

We open 20k lines spreadsheets almost everyday in our office.

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Why are you arguing with someone who's clearly under 18 and has no ideea what office work really is ?

He belongs to the same group who claim Llano will be a corporate hit since what they lack in the office isn't CPU power and faster networks, but a "real multimedia experience"....
 
savantu said:
Why are you arguing with someone who's clearly under 18 and has no ideea what office work really is ?

He belongs to the same group who claim Llano will be a corporate hit since what they lack in the office isn't CPU power and faster networks, but a "real multimedia experience"....
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lol. Maybe... and I say maybe, if they have a decent developer push, but from what I see, AMD is waiting on GCN before even attempting anything like that :p

The GPU side is theoretically warrantable for FirePro branding, I'd guess. If the price is right, and... screw it, who am I kidding? CPU power is still needed in almost any 3D CAD/ani system, and the few that benefit, outside of the viewport, from a GPU generally lean towards CUDA.
 
Taxes are a percentage and would apply to both Intel and AMD cpus if you buy from a place that charges them. How would that affect the calculations posted?

Who is the idiot now?



teletran8 said:
I've personally purchased a Pentium 3, Athlon XP, Core 2, and a Phenom II thus far. :p
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SURE you have. You want us to believe that you saved all your paychecks to own that many cpus. Please...

and calling me a child does nothing to rebut the claim that your $80 cpu is not as awesome as you dream it to be.
 
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Rossi~ said:
Man teletran8, you be trollin'
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I agree he is trolling. He can't really believe the stuff he writes does He?

I have to admit that I like AMD over Intel and have always bought AMD, but, at the moment AMd can't even say that they are good for budget gamers. An i3 can be bought for roughly the same price as a phenom II and totally outperform it.

the only guy making idiotic posts in this thread is Teletran8.
 
You always figure that someone with an over-emotional attachment to a CPU brand and strange beliefs in performance and pricing contrary to reality is "trolling", but it's usually called something else. ;) Just file those (worthless) opinions in an appropriate place.
 
Michaelius said:
Yeah god forbid they actually use real life loads to benchmark.

We open 20k lines spreadsheets almost everyday in our office.

BTW speaking about awesome Phenom II gaming cpu:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-2120-2100/civ5.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-2120-2100/metro.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-2120-2100/starcraft.png
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The Civ5 benchmark makes me lol every time. CPU intensive and multi-threaded, but.. the i3 21xx runs with the i5 750, and the Phenom X4 955 can barely pass the i3 560, which was released 8-9 months ago now?

If I hadn't gotten such a good deal on my i5 2500, I probably would just have put an i3 2100 in my gaming rig. I don't encode on this rig or anything.
 
Michaelius said:
If intel released i3 2100K I'd buy it on day one :)
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Agreed the 2100 is very tempting and I'm on the fence with that one but with no overclocking and a 2000HD it's a wait and see what BD has.

I'd get a k series i3 in a heart beat if they could price it between the 2100 and the 2500k or basically 10 bucks more than the 2120.

The other nice chip would be the G850k, that would probably overclock well.
 
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