Intel to Discontinue..

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One of Intel's most popular platforms since the LGA 775 processors has now fully entered into its discontinuation phase, so let's bid farewell to Sandy Bridge.

Intel has announced the discontinuance of its highly popular Sandy Bridge processors. These processors are still among the best selling CPUs, even after the release of Ivy Bridge. They have been mainstays with overclockers and enthusiast builders since its initial release in January 2011. With Ivy Bridge in full swing and Haswell set for early 2013, Intel has started phasing out the Sandy Bridge processors.

Intel has released the schedule for the following processors: Celeron G440, Core i5-2310, i5-2320, i5-2400, i5-2400S, i5-2405S, i5-2500, i5-2500K, i5-2500S, i5-2500T, i7-2600, i7-2600K, i7-2600S and i7-2700K. In addition, Intel has announced the discontinuance of a processor that was just recently released, the Ivy Bridge Core i5-3450 processor.
Forecasted Key Milestones: Tray Boxed
Product Discontinuance Program Support Begins: 09/24/2012 09/24/2012
Product Discontinuance Demand To Local Intel Rep.: 12/28/2012 Not Applicable
Finalize Discontinuance Assurance: 01/25/2013 Not Applicable
Last Corporate Assurance Product Critical Date: 03/20/2013 Not Applicable
Last Product Discontinuance Order Date: 03/29/2013 03/29/2013
Orders are Non-Cancelable and Non-Returnable After: 03/29/2013 03/29/2013
Last Product Discontinuance Shipment Date: 09/27/2013 While Supplies Last
 
It makes sense, why should they keep making them. Almost all sandybridge boards will take ivy bridge cpus anyway.
 
I'm a bit surprised they didn't stop production the moment they switched to 22nm.
 
It's probably cheaper to build IB with the cheap IHS and less raw materials with the smaller die.
 
polonyc2 said:
discontinued that soon?...Intel is getting aggressive
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Getting aggressive ?! They are the alpha in the chip world. I am looking forward to Haswell along with all the other upgrades that will go with it for me, USB 3, pice 3, windows 8, etc.
 
Just picked up a 2700k for 245 here on the forums.

Hit 5ghz at 1.425v!! Cant wait to watercool this baby and try for 5.2-5.4ghz range. This TRUE120 is a champ though, keeping it under 80c.

From the looks of it. Looks like I picked the right time to get the 2700k too.
 
The die shrinks are probably allowed them to make a ton therefore they might have a huge stockpile. Or maybe they are retooling the old Sandy Bridge fabs for Haswell or even 14nm since the 22nm ones are in full swing. Just speculation from me, I have no source to back up what I just said. Anyways, maybe I'll finally upgrade when Haswell hits, my Q6600 is getting quite old now lol. I keep saying I'll upgrade when the next arch hits but it doesn't happen.
 
I'm still rockin a q9550 and it's a great chip. I honestly might hold out for another year or two.
 
vsboxerboy said:
I'm still rockin a q9550 and it's a great chip. I honestly might hold out for another year or two.
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Some of those now-dead CPUs (CeleronG 440, for example) had no retail presence whatever; others (i5-2500/2500K/2500T) overlapped all too closely with Ivy Bridge (i5-3570/3570K/3570T) with basically no price difference (which is also why the i5-3450 - an Ivy Bridge part - is going away).

I have a Q6600 (the original Intel quad-core), and despite the presence of Ivy Bridge, the current state of the world (and the current state of software, to be honest) is only inspiring me to stand pat and NOT spend, despite the inexpensiveness of Ivy Bridge.
 
AeonF1 said:
The die shrinks are probably allowed them to make a ton therefore they might have a huge stockpile. Or maybe they are retooling the old Sandy Bridge fabs for Haswell or even 14nm since the 22nm ones are in full swing. Just speculation from me, I have no source to back up what I just said. Anyways, maybe I'll finally upgrade when Haswell hits, my Q6600 is getting quite old now lol. I keep saying I'll upgrade when the next arch hits but it doesn't happen.
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Not news.

I had planned to upgrade to Ivy Bridge *last year*, and for the Q6600 I got then to go to Mom - not me.

The Developer Preview of Windows 8 didn't push the hardware envelope - nor has the RTM. You used to be able to count on Windows to have three sets of hardware requirements - the suggested by Microsoft requirements, the Microsoft-recommended requirements, and the real requirements. However, Windows Vista left a sour taste in a lot of mouths with that; since then, Microsoft has been pretty spot on with the recommended requirements - even the minimum requirements - being grounded in reality. If anything is pushing upgrades, it's because I am held back from doing more by existing hardware, as opposed to keeping the same performance.
 
Yes folks you only have around another 6 months in which to get one of these 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processor from our authorized distributors. Reseller may stockpile them so you will have a longer period in which to get them.
 
Relativist said:
Getting aggressive ?! They are the alpha in the chip world. I am looking forward to Haswell along with all the other upgrades that will go with it for me, USB 3, pice 3, windows 8, etc.
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did you just say you were looking forward to upgrading to windows 8?
:confused::confused::confused:
 
Isn't 6 months after a 2 generation newer product (Haswell) is released enough time for SB to end its run? I'd be surprised if there's much demand for SB 12 months after IB was released. Who sells stuff that old besides bottom feeding ARM-based device makers anyways? Non-issue IMO.
 
Relativist said:
Well we need something to load up these over 4 core CPUs LOL:p
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Apparently you *missed* my earlier post.

I'm running Windows 8 Pro RTM x64 on Q6600 (Kentsfield) today - and that CPU has been dead how many years?

As far as feature support goes, Ivy Bridge has ONE feature that Windows 8 can leverage that Kentsfield lacks - Second-Level Address Translation (SLAT). (And that's midrange quad-core vs. midrange quad-core.) All other gains going from Kentsfield to Ivy Bridge are about efficiency.

Am I saying that Ivy Bridge is a poor CPU? Absolutely not; in fact, I have called the i5-3570K - more than once - an absolute *bargain*.

The real issue is despite that hardware pricing has, at best stayed flat in real terms (if not gotten cheaper in terms of power for price) there has to be *incentive* for average consumers/businesses/etc. to upgrade their hardware. Unfortunately, such incentive, due to the poor economy, is not there.
 
Didn't miss it, as I'm in agreement with you. So far, there has not been a compelling reason to upgrade my platform. At this point, it's the software loading that will give the cores something to do.
 
PGHammer said:
Apparently you *missed* my earlier post.

I'm running Windows 8 Pro RTM x64 on Q6600 (Kentsfield) today - and that CPU has been dead how many years?

As far as feature support goes, Ivy Bridge has ONE feature that Windows 8 can leverage that Kentsfield lacks - Second-Level Address Translation (SLAT). (And that's midrange quad-core vs. midrange quad-core.) All other gains going from Kentsfield to Ivy Bridge are about efficiency.

Am I saying that Ivy Bridge is a poor CPU? Absolutely not; in fact, I have called the i5-3570K - more than once - an absolute *bargain*.

The real issue is despite that hardware pricing has, at best stayed flat in real terms (if not gotten cheaper in terms of power for price) there has to be *incentive* for average consumers/businesses/etc. to upgrade their hardware. Unfortunately, such incentive, due to the poor economy, is not there.
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I can run that OS only in 32bit version the same way on Athlon XP and Prescott Pentium 4. The computing performance is at least last decade not about direct OS responsiveness and performance. The fact that you are running RTM Win8 doesn't necessarily mean you have high performance computer. I know it once was, but that was long ago.
 
Acer_Sheep said:
I can run that OS only in 32bit version the same way on Athlon XP and Prescott Pentium 4. The computing performance is at least last decade not about direct OS responsiveness and performance. The fact that you are running RTM Win8 doesn't necessarily mean you have high performance computer. I know it once was, but that was long ago.
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The point is, a Q6600 would still be, and still is, more than enough computing power for most of the population, even using the lastest OS and other applications.
 
HD 5000... lol

I am finally going to upgrade my sig rig. Finally.. I would be better off with 2 computers for what I do anyway though. It's hard to justify performance in a game when you are running 2+ vm's and a BR movie while playing a game.
 
MrGuvernment said:
The point is, a Q6600 would still be, and still is, more than enough computing power for most of the population, even using the lastest OS and other applications.
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My point was that not everyone *needs* a high-performance computer.

Worse, unless you have niche software needs (yes - that DOES include games, believe it or not), outside of that niche, even a midrange computer of today (i5-3570K/16GB/AMD HD77xx - basically the equivalent of my planned build) would be loafing most of the time - horribly underutilized.

Not exactly a fun thing to realize.

And given a poor economic situation, there are other priorities.
 
It's a minor loss, really, and one that mainly hits oc'ers/tinkerers more than anyone else.
Obviously you can still oc on a IB K product, but you're dealing with higher thermal issues.
 
PGHammer said:
My point was that not everyone *needs* a high-performance computer.

Worse, unless you have niche software needs (yes - that DOES include games, believe it or not), outside of that niche, even a midrange computer of today (i5-3570K/16GB/AMD HD77xx - basically the equivalent of my planned build) would be loafing most of the time - horribly underutilized.

Not exactly a fun thing to realize.

And given a poor economic situation, there are other priorities.
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I %100 agree with you.
 
PGHammer said:
My point was that not everyone *needs* a high-performance computer.

Worse, unless you have niche software needs (yes - that DOES include games, believe it or not), outside of that niche, even a midrange computer of today (i5-3570K/16GB/AMD HD77xx - basically the equivalent of my planned build) would be loafing most of the time - horribly underutilized.

Not exactly a fun thing to realize.

And given a poor economic situation, there are other priorities.
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One excellent advantage besides some minor future planning, is that all those extra CPU cycles could be put to excellent use helping with disease research..It is the easiest way to give something back, especially if you aren't a high roller who donates tons to a charity for a tax write off:rolleyes:...

If 1/10 of the people in the US alone used F@H, the amount of research ability would be insane..I personally would love to see cancer, MS, ALS, etc destroyed in my lifetime, and be able to say I contributed a small but important part.
 
ccityinstaller said:
One excellent advantage besides some minor future planning, is that all those extra CPU cycles could be put to excellent use helping with disease research..It is the easiest way to give something back, especially if you aren't a high roller who donates tons to a charity for a tax write off:rolleyes:...

If 1/10 of the people in the US alone used F@H, the amount of research ability would be insane..I personally would love to see cancer, MS, ALS, etc destroyed in my lifetime, and be able to say I contributed a small but important part.
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Agreed, until the electric bills take the price jump that they inevitably do; that's why I stopped F@h... well that and the drama from PG (but that's another topic).
 
zero2dash said:
It's a minor loss, really, and one that mainly hits oc'ers/tinkerers more than anyone else.
Obviously you can still oc on a IB K product, but you're dealing with higher thermal issues.
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I'm more of a tinkerer than a heavy-duty overclocker - I got into overclocking as a side-effect of tinkering.

However, the economic downturn means that even tinkerers' budgets get extra scrutineering; that means I can't get as wild and wooly in the hardware department as I normally would (which isn't very to begin with) - especially when the relative doing the scrutiny (Mom in my case) is even more of a cheapskate than moi.

I actually have the ENTIRE amount of what it would cost to buy everything (plus cushion) set aside; however, Mom the Cheapskate is forcing me to basically stall because she's in full-tilt-panic-until-after-Election-Day mode (she's solidly behind Obama).
 
polonyc2 said:
discontinued that soon?...Intel is getting aggressive
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Well, Haswell is due to hit anywhere from 5 to 8 months away, at which point Ivy Bridge is likely to become scarce pretty quickly too.

Intel's tick-tock product cycles are pretty quick, but there aren't huge performance gains from generation to generation, only incremental ones (that is, unless you are thinking about IGP performance)
 
PGHammer said:
I actually have the ENTIRE amount of what it would cost to buy everything (plus cushion) set aside; however, Mom the Cheapskate is forcing me to basically stall because she's in full-tilt-panic-until-after-Election-Day mode (she's solidly behind Obama).
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So how does Election day impact a computer purchasing decision? :confused:
 
ccityinstaller said:
If 1/10 of the people in the US alone used F@H, the amount of research ability would be insane..I personally would love to see cancer, MS, ALS, etc destroyed in my lifetime, and be able to say I contributed a small but important part.
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1. If only NSA joined F@H and harnessed all their computing power for the good of things
2. FPGAs and parallel CPUs man ("parallel CPUs" <-- not GPUs, not your common desktop/server CPU, but a chip with CPUs in true parallelism like GPUs are but as CPUs)

Look at NASA's budget. Compare that to all the other expenses. NASA's budget is cakewalk for most. i.e. with Apple nearing the $1 trillion mark, that is NASA a thousand times over+, and that's just Apple (The extreme end, I'll admit, but if NASA were a company rather than a government program, they could be bought out by many :D)

http://www.wtfnasa.com/ <-- check this out. The a large number of technological advancements came because of/through NASA. Now just imagine if their budget was one of the top budgets/financially heavily sponsored by Fortune 500 companies all around the world.
 
Zarathustra[H];1039202093 said:
So how does Election day impact a computer purchasing decision? :confused:
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Because money spent on other things is not available in case the economy slips further south. Panic is like fear - logic has exactly diddly to do with it.
 
PGHammer said:
Because money spent on other things is not available in case the economy slips further south. Panic is like fear - logic has exactly diddly to do with it.
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IMHO, short term the economy won't change much up or down either way regardless of who wins the election. Politicians tend to tout their differences during election campaigns, but once they get into office, they tend to do a lot of the same stuff.

As an example, look at the TARP and bailouts started by Bush and continued by Obama.

Short term (next 5-10 years) economy wise, we are going to be in the same boat regardless of who is president.

The long term effects are where they differ. Without wanting to get too political, I see the long term effects of a Romney administration helping us in the direction of more income inequality, fewer consumer protections, and potentially overheating our economy into a new bubble and collapse due to lack of regulation, and I also foresee progress made in civil liberties stalling or moving backwards long term. but really not significantly so.

Congress impacts us more than the presidency does (even though it gets less attention), and at this rate the House is - short of some sort of game changer - most likely going to stay Republican. The Senate is probably going to stay Democratic, but neither party will have enough votes to overcome the filibuster using a cloture vote, so the Senate will remain just as ineffective as it has been for the last election cycle.

So I guess what I am saying, we are likely in for more of the same regardless of what happens in November. There may be some long term effects, but nothing on the time scale that should impact an upcoming computer upgrade.
 
Actually there may be significant movement in the short-term due to the expiration/renewal of the 2001-2003 tax cuts and the so-called fiscal cliff. It's nearly a guarantee that if Romney is elected these tax cuts will be extended and the unsustainable, unjustified rise in the stock market will continue for the next 6-12 months. Printing money, cutting taxes, and raising spending can only be done for so long.

If Obama is reelected the tax cuts will eventually be allowed to expire. The knowledge of this fact will drive a large, irrational selloff, erasing the 10-15% gains since January.
 
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