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Intel new SSD 34nm?

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Here's to hoping the random writes issues are taken care of in the new one. Hope intel came to impress....
 
agrophel said:
New INTEL SSD 80GB SSDSA2MH080G2C1 (02G2) benchmark

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Pretty weak results, new Intel drive posted 250Mbs read and 80MBs write. Not much of an improvement at all. Look for some enterprising 2nd tier players to take the enthusiast market this summer with PCIe SSD drives with 5x the read speed, 12x the write speed, 3x read IOPS and 30x the write IOPS of this new Intel drive. I do expect Intel to contiinue to appeal to the mainstream SSD user though (especailly notebooks).
 
Weak compared to what? Something that isn't released yet?
 
The No.1 priority right now is to get the $/GB down to achieve mass market penetration, once that happens everything's going to be sweet. Given that sata 2 is already maxed balls to the walls performance is 2ndary (leave that to PCI-E version for now). If this drive is priced toward that direction then that's good.
 
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Weak compared to what? Something that isn't released yet?
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faugusztin said:
Weak compared to his dreams.
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The SSD market has been evolving so fast that we are seeing 2x the speed at 1/2 the price every 10-12 months. So when Intel releases their second generation drive with a 10-15% speed increase at a 10-15% lower price, you can expect a yawn. X-25 M drives are still crippled by a pathetic 80MBs write speed as well. No wonder it's a silent launch.

There are several PCIe SSDs that are to be released over the summer. A real enthusiast has done their resarch and knows this. If someone told me Intel was going to launch a new processor that was 5-10x faster, hell yeah I'd wait a few months. Heck, people currently wait 6-12 months for processor architectures that promises 20-30% speed improvements. Now think about it, we're not talking a 20-30% performance increase in 1 year on one of the fastest parts of your machine, we're talking about a 500-1000% increase in the next few months on the bottleneck of your machine. If you can't wait a summer for that, well then....your judgement call...
 
jdyoung75 said:
Pretty weak results, new Intel drive posted 250Mbs read and 80MBs write. Not much of an improvement at all. Look for some enterprising 2nd tier players to take the enthusiast market this summer with PCIe SSD drives with 5x the read speed, 12x the write speed, 3x read IOPS and 30x the write IOPS of this new Intel drive. I do expect Intel to contiinue to appeal to the mainstream SSD user though (especailly notebooks).
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uhh..what? What the new X25-Ms bring to the table are lowered prices (about 70-100 dollars less than current prices), while providing the same (stellar) performance.
 
jdyoung75 said:
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PCI-E SSD is solution for those who have a lot of cash, for servers. They have zero use at home and workstation market, where you need :
1) to be able to boot from it - PCI-E SSD doesn't support this and wont support in near future until we move towards EFI.
2) acceptable price - PCI-E SSD can have a nice $/GB ratio, but until it's over 200$ mark it's a very hard to sell product - you can see this even with current SSD's.

So your nice ideas about superb PCI-E SSD's are nice, but that is just you and few others who wants this type of product. Great majority of market wants lower prices at first, and PCI-E SSD doesn't bring that in near future.
 
jdyoung75 said:
Pretty weak results, new Intel drive posted 250Mbs read and 80MBs write. Not much of an improvement at all. Look for some enterprising 2nd tier players to take the enthusiast market this summer with PCIe SSD drives with 5x the read speed, 12x the write speed, 3x read IOPS and 30x the write IOPS of this new Intel drive. I do expect Intel to contiinue to appeal to the mainstream SSD user though (especailly notebooks).
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And you can't boot off the PCI-e bus drives, so that makes them moot for the purpose of an OS based ssd in which the intel lines excell.
 
^That my friend is NOT a PCIE ssd... its a half baked product to fill the gap by falls marketing 4sata ssds on a Raid controller as a PCIE ssd... WOuldn't bet on it being dependable or havin a long lifespan...
 
faugusztin said:
PCI-E SSD is solution for those who have a lot of cash, for servers. They have zero use at home and workstation market, where you need :
1) to be able to boot from it - PCI-E SSD doesn't support this and wont support in near future until we move towards EFI.
2) acceptable price - PCI-E SSD can have a nice $/GB ratio, but until it's over 200$ mark it's a very hard to sell product - you can see this even with current SSD's.
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3) A place to put them. After an enthusiast gets done packing his system with 2-3 double-slot SLI video cards, he'll be lucky to have one available 1x slot, and even luckier if it doesn't interfere with the NB heatsink.
 
jdyoung75 said:
The SSD market has been evolving so fast that we are seeing 2x the speed at 1/2 the price every 10-12 months. So when Intel releases their second generation drive with a 10-15% speed increase at a 10-15% lower price, you can expect a yawn. X-25 M drives are still crippled by a pathetic 80MBs write speed as well. No wonder it's a silent launch.

There are several PCIe SSDs that are to be released over the summer. A real enthusiast has done their resarch and knows this. If someone told me Intel was going to launch a new processor that was 5-10x faster, hell yeah I'd wait a few months. Heck, people currently wait 6-12 months for processor architectures that promises 20-30% speed improvements. Now think about it, we're not talking a 20-30% performance increase in 1 year on one of the fastest parts of your machine, we're talking about a 500-1000% increase in the next few months on the bottleneck of your machine. If you can't wait a summer for that, well then....your judgement call...
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hey, you know what? people use ssds for other things than just unlimited-funds extreme gaming monstrosities. your pcie ssds aren't going to do jack shit for me and my business notebook, so yes i am pretty excited about progress in sata ssds. take your thread-shitting elsewhere, idiot.
 
Cyclone said:
hey, you know what? people use ssds for other things than just unlimited-funds extreme gaming monstrosities. your pcie ssds aren't going to do jack shit for me and my business notebook, so yes i am pretty excited about progress in sata ssds. take your thread-shitting elsewhere, idiot.
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He didn't say anything outrageous, he simply stated that PCI-E SSDs are on the horizon with very fast speeds. He didn't bash, he simply exuded indifference to sata development.

You, on the other hand, turned into a name calling troll.
 
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