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Intel Chipset Design Error!!!

jstnomega said:
I soooo wanna hear Cartman say: Looks like somebody's got Sandybridge in their vagina. :p
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Well damn.

What to do?

My 2600K/Asrock P67 I built a week ago is running great right now. I've got a 120gb ssd as boot and a 1.5tb hdd as storage on my two SATA3 ports. I've got a bluray burner on one SATA2 port.

I have 3 choices, none which are great:

1. Return the 2600K and Asrock P67 and swap for an 1156 cpu/mobo combo. This sucks because the cpu won't be as fast or efficient, and this platform doesn't seem to have much of an upgrade future, being replaced by what I already have right now.

2. Return the Asrock P67 and wait for the revised mobos to release but keep my other components. No computer for 2-4 months.

3. Keep my system as is and pray to the god of computing that it doesn't fail until either I can RMA the board for a revised one or even longer where I would just replace it.

Right now I'm thinking 3 is my best option because worst case scenario for it is that it fails before the revised boards are available and I don't have a usable optical drive... but I could possibly get by using an external USB2/3 optical drive.

For those of you in the same situation keep us updated on what you decided to do and how it worked out for you.
 
Everyone should hang tight and see what action manufacturers are going to take.
 
I'm not getting worked up over this. What's the worst case scenario? I might have to spend $40 on a PCI-E SATA controller or RMA my motherboard in the future. Then again, I may not.
 
Cobra said:
Well damn.

What to do?

My 2600K/Asrock P67 I built a week ago is running great right now. I've got a 120gb ssd as boot and a 1.5tb hdd as storage on my two SATA3 ports. I've got a bluray burner on one SATA2 port.

I have 3 choices, none which are great:

1. Return the 2600K and Asrock P67 and swap for an 1156 cpu/mobo combo. This sucks because the cpu won't be as fast or efficient, and this platform doesn't seem to have much of an upgrade future, being replaced by what I already have right now.

2. Return the Asrock P67 and wait for the revised mobos to release but keep my other components. No computer for 2-4 months.

3. Keep my system as is and pray to the god of computing that it doesn't fail until either I can RMA the board for a revised one or even longer where I would just replace it.

Right now I'm thinking 3 is my best option because worst case scenario for it is that it fails before the revised boards are available and I don't have a usable optical drive... but I could possibly get by using an external USB2/3 optical drive.

For those of you in the same situation keep us updated on what you decided to do and how it worked out for you.
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option 4 keep you shit and enjoy it. You may never ever experience the problem anyway.
 
I'm putting my SB build together right now and while this does indeed suck I am not going to let it stop me from using my system. I for one am glad that intel is coming clean on this instead of letting us all find out down the road that we have a problem. Like many of you I am going to just install my 2 hard drives on the sata III ports and just throw my dvd burner on the sata II port.
 
ex0du5 said:
I'm not getting worked up over this. What's the worst case scenario? I might have to spend $40 on a PCI-E SATA controller or RMA my motherboard in the future. Then again, I may not.
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Corrupted data?
 
Nyber said:
Corrupted data?
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Don't think so. Everything I have read on this says there's no issue of data corruption just performance. So until someone shows otherwise I'm doing like him and sticking with it until the dust settles.

Worst case scenario I buy a $30 sata controller.
 
Funny that although no other distributor or supplier has access to them, this so called Supermicro dealer on eBay has 10 Supermicro X9SCM-F boards for sale. Hah...the guy even spells Supermicro wrong. :D
 
Disposed said:
Don't think so. Everything I have read on this says there's no issue of data corruption just performance. So until someone shows otherwise I'm doing like him and sticking with it until the dust settles.

Worst case scenario I buy a $30 sata controller.
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I've read it can result in complete port failure (not just performance degradation) so the middle ground leads me to believe data corruption is a very real possibility.
 
I feel bad for all you early adopters, I would have been livid. What a travesty from Intel! Perfect break for AMD though. Oh well, I hope your RMAs go smoothly.

And for the people here with only one rig, who will be forced to have quite some downtime or purchase NOS equipment to build a temp rig... always, always keep many working computers around! :D
 
CheapAsianGamerGuy said:
You can return it now and get your $ back, then sit on it and wait for Z68/get a better 1155 CPU.

DO-OVER!
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Not really an option for me. I waited as long as I could before replacing my E8400 C2D. When I decided it was time to build a new machine was about when Intel announced that it was changing sockets and 1156 was shortly going to be another dead end. That was the whole reason I waited for Sandy Bridge in the first place.
 
Disposed said:
What? I'm no stock broker but right now is the time to BUY. They will rebound.
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The thing is it only affected the stock price for a few hours yesterday. 700m is not that much money for an intel or many Fortune 500 Companies for that matter. Look @ BP they put 20billion they had laying around in escrow for their messup.

A lot of investors had a knee jerk reaction to intel yesterday but the stock price is already back to where it was on Fridays close.

Intel is a solid company and isnt going anywhere. There is no reason to sell your stock at this time.....because of the SB issues.
 
Budzman said:
Once you get burned as a early adopter you never go back.
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not true, I will go back. I'm not getting so excited over this as everyone else seems to be. It's not a big issue and the system has been folding/gaming non stop for a week+ with no problems. It's equally funny to watch the gloaters come to the threads and proudly claim they didn't upgrade yet, for whatever reason. Human nature, fun to watch. :) For what it's worth, I wonder if there weren't some 1366 systems affected with this issue. I've heard scattered reports of problems with the SATA interface from people running 1366.
 
stockwiz said:
not true, I will go back. I'm not getting so excited over this as everyone else seems to be. It's not a big issue and the system has been folding/gaming non stop for a week+ with no problems. It's equally funny to watch the gloaters come to the threads and proudly claim they didn't upgrade yet, for whatever reason. Human nature, fun to watch. :)
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Yea, seriously- it's not anywhere near a big a deal as people are making it out to be. Sure, there are some people who need all those SATA channels and will see issues sooner rather than later but I'd imagine the vast majority of people can just move their drives to the other ports and be fine until the RMA processes kick in.

My SB computer is working just fine and has been for almost a month now.
 
The time to judge your NAS Filer setup is when it fail and you need to recover back to normal ...

The time to judge a certain understanding is when there is an issue how you respond and handle the scenario...
 
Where are most of these motherboards actually assembled? I know the parts are made in various places but what about the assembly? If it's China, there's probably going to be even more delay since the Chinese New Year starts Feb 3 and lasts 3 weeks. The company I work for has 2 factories in China and they completely close the doors 100% during this time.
 
Vindicis said:
Where are most of these motherboards actually assembled? I know the parts are made in various places but what about the assembly? If it's China, there's probably going to be even more delay since the Chinese New Year starts Feb 3 and lasts 3 weeks. The company I work for has 2 factories in China and they completely close the doors 100% during this time.
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Toss Taiwan in there, most major mobo makers have a .tw website that tends to be their main site.
 
First time in years I have bought Intel and now this problem.Good thing they had record profits,they're going to need them.
 
man lol seems theres a huge calllback...most of the resellers here in turkey dont offer any 1155 boards
as of today, or better i couldnt findy any that has them.
 
Nyber said:
I've read it can result in complete port failure (not just performance degradation) so the middle ground leads me to believe data corruption is a very real possibility.
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5% chance of that last I looked. I would say thats not far from the failure rate on just about any other board.

Still though like I said its a simple fix. One sata controller is all you need.
 
nakedhand said:
I feel bad for all you early adopters, I would have been livid. What a travesty from Intel! Perfect break for AMD though. Oh well, I hope your RMAs go smoothly.

And for the people here with only one rig, who will be forced to have quite some downtime or purchase NOS equipment to build a temp rig... always, always keep many working computers around! :D
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I'm not going to lose sleep over a $30 hit when it's all said and done. The parts will also be cheaper by the time they have this all figured out so I figure I'll break even. Will come out way ahead if I step down to a 2500K.
 
Now that I think about it why dont Intel just offer the option of a free sata controller. That has to be cheaper than the alternative.
 
I'd like have the OPTION of a free SATA controller or an RMA, rather than having Intel make the decision for me. Too many people will want to use that slot for something else.

Of course, that would make it a nightmare for Intel and the OEM's to track which boards have been RMA'd, which were issued the optional SATA controller, etc, etc...

None of which affects me, since I only have a hard drive and an optical going into the 6G ports anyway...

It's like having a "fatal flaw" on the car cigarette lighter when you're a non-smoker..who cares? (of course, in this case the "fatal" part would be that 5% of the time over the next 3 years the lighter might not get hot enough to light anything)
 
I got my wife a Sandy Bridge laptop for her engineering courses and wasn't too pleased yesterday with the news. However it appears Toshiba has configured the SATA to run off of ports 0 and 1 so we should be fine.

On another note, you definately need a high end hard drive setup to start to take advantage of Sandy Bridge. The problem with processors these days is you can't feed them data fast enough. SSD here I come.
 
Disposed said:
Now that I think about it why dont Intel just offer the option of a free sata controller. That has to be cheaper than the alternative.
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While this may be a functional alternative, from a corporate PR perspective hardly feasible, handing out free sata controllers would look like Intel was trying to provide a bandaid solution, in the end the underlying problem still exists. If they were to issue this option, more then likely current owners would be denied RMA. Consider most consumers if not all buy something and expect it to fully function without fail regardless how small an issue would be, the principal is you buy something it should work as intended out of the box. Intel would be hammered by public opinion if they continued to sell flawed boards while waiting for the new revision to be fabricated and shipped. Now if they offered a choice then that be awesome, however thats just added cost with the extra controllers and boards, I think Intel expects that some current users will not bother RMAing their boards.
 
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