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Why are we teaching these damn robots stuff like this? DAMN YOU SAMURAI!!! DAMN YOU!!!!
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Is this necessary?
No seriously, is it?
And.....
Skynet.
Of course they have to use a samurai sword though... nothing against them, I have two mounted on my wall at home, its just a shame that they get holy-relic status while Europeans at their peak actually had superior steel, sword, and armor technology with an absolute tremendous amount of diversity allowing for specialization, yet they get no respect.
That's why you always see them cutting easy things like bamboo/flowers and other things.
Considering that the Japanese did not have heavy plate armor because iron ore is rather scarce, no. They took what worked and worked well for their style of combat and perfected it the best they could. If their geography and geology differed then things would have gone differently. Don't forget that the Katana was the Samurai's personal defensive weapon, not their primary offensive weapon. That would be the bow or spear, just as the pikeman and archer were the primary war fighters in Europe - not the mounted knight.It was not designed to go through heavy things or something like Plate armor.
A guy in plate armor would be pretty impervious to a guy using a katana, but they didn't make them for that.
Screw that, you tell him to yield and raise his visor, and if he says he's from a reasonably well to do family like most were that could afford that kind of armor, you ransom him and make a fortune!Once you had him wounded and on the ground you finished him with a thin dagger to the neck, under the arm, or through the eye slits in the visor
You sound knowledgeable, and I appreciate your informative post.snip
What they're cutting are tatami mats, which is known as tameshigiri. It's to simulate the resistance a human arm or neck would provide when cutting with a sword, or a leg if more mats are used. The flower is to demonstrate precision of the swordsman and sharpness of the blade. An improper stroke would not cut the flower, but would bend or break the stalk. Same with a dull blade. A dull blade going into free-standing fruit would simply pitch it.
What this guy is doing is the real deal. It's not fanboi crap. Show a little respect.
Considering that the Japanese did not have heavy plate armor because iron ore is rather scarce, no. They took what worked and worked well for their style of combat and perfected it the best they could. If their geography and geology differed then things would have gone differently. Don't forget that the Katana was the Samurai's personal defensive weapon, not their primary offensive weapon. That would be the bow or spear, just as the pikeman and archer were the primary war fighters in Europe - not the mounted knight.
A guy in plate armor is pretty impervious to a guy using ANY sword, with the exception of some of the more massive claymores the Scots developed. Some of those were 8 foot long with a 3" wide blade and were used for knocking the legs out from under a horse, then used to basically bash the knight with tremendous force to knock him down and out before finishing with a skean dhu. Historically, you took someone in plate armor down with a blunt weapon like a hammer or mace, the hammer or axe end of a pole-arm, used a snare, or once dismounted, a pole-arm with a hook for grabbing behind the knee where the armor was very weak. Once you had him wounded and on the ground you finished him with a thin dagger to the neck, under the arm, or through the eye slits in the visor, or if you were using a halberd or other weighted pole-arm you'd deliver a hard blow across the torso where the shock would cause organ ruptures and internal bleeding. When the longbow was developed you just put an arrow in him, and when firearms were developed plate armor was made obsolete.
Swords are made for cutting flesh and bone, not plate steel. If you really needed to use a sword on someone wearing plate, you'd reverse it and swing it from the blade side and use the pommel or crossbar like a hammer and try to strike the head, or you'd half-sword and try to pierce the chain armor beneath the armpit with a strong thrust. Yes, I know swinging from the blade end sounds like you'd cut your hand, but in combat leather gloves were worn and it's a historically documented practice.
DAMN YOU SAMURAI!!! DAMN YOU!!!!
^ always have to get the last word in eh? That sure was a lot of effort to say that you were misunderstood and you know more than he does.
My post was not meant to call out the guys skill or any such thing but rather the sense of the Katana being some amazing sword that beats all other swords at everything,
You sound knowledgeable, and I appreciate your informative post.
Of this I am glad! By your reply to my reply you're showing more education on this matter than your original post implied.I am fully aware
What you are referring to is "Half swording" which is the technique of grabbing above the hilt on the blade.
When half swording you used the sword more like a spear and the goal was to get the opponent down and then thrust it into a weak area (usually the groin, arm pit, neck, or visor slit).
Indeed, as any student of arms should know. The whole sword is a weapon, not just the blade.You also could use the pommel to provide strikes and other things as well when half swording. Among many other things such as trapping his weapon, trips, etc.
My post was not meant to call out the guys skill or any such thing but rather the sense of the Katana being some amazing sword that beats all other swords at everything,
Swords are made for cutting flesh and bone, not plate steel. If you really needed to use a sword on someone wearing plate, you'd reverse it and swing it from the blade side and use the pommel or crossbar like a hammer and try to strike the head, or you'd half-sword and try to pierce the chain armor beneath the armpit with a strong thrust. Yes, I know swinging from the blade end sounds like you'd cut your hand, but in combat leather gloves were worn and it's a historically documented practice.
I think they are trying to show off how precise the robot arms can be, because the more precise they are, obviously the more jobs they can do. It means they can produce for example far more consistent and precise welds than and average human welder, and work all day and all night 24x7x365 without unionizing and striking or smoking weed on breaks like those UAW employees here in the US were caught doing or jumping off of buildings like in China.
36 Reasons Why You Should Thank a Union
Weekends
All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
Paid Vacation
FMLA
Sick Leave
Social Security
Minimum Wage
Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
8-Hour Work Day
Overtime Pay
Child Labor Laws
Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
40 Hour Work Week
Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
Unemployment Insurance
Pensions
Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
Employer Health Care Insurance
Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
Wrongful Termination Laws
Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
Whistleblower Protection Laws
Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
Sexual Harassment Laws
Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
Holiday Pay
Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
Privacy Rights
Pregnancy and Parental Leave
Military Leave
The Right to Strike
Public Education for Children
Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States
Proud UAW member here!
Yeah, that's all complete nonsense, and I actually earn my living and compete with others based on the quality of my work as an individual. Congratulations on being a driving force in GM, Chrysler, and Ford's tens of billions in losses, ridiculous wages for unskilled labor at $75/hr (base + benefits), with poor quality control and higher assembly error rates per JDPowers than non-Union Honda and Toyota factories right here in the United States, where work ethic and skill is divorced from compensation since all that really matters is you don't step on anyones toes, know the right people to get the job, don't do more work than you're supposed to, and stay there for a long time. I'm glad that my taxes went to support the continued leaching on American industries though, I didn't really need a new TV anyway.Proud UAW member here!
The Fox TV station in Detroit has again caught on video Chrysler union workers smoking dope and drinking before work and on their lunch break.
This time it was not in a public park, but in the parking lot of their nearby United Auto Workers union hall, before they headed back to finish their shift at Chrysler Group's Trenton engine plant that builds the new Fiat 4-cylinder for world use.
FOX 2 reporter Rob Wolchek says he got calls from two workers in the plant who told him that working with people who have been getting high is dangerous.
This is the same Fox reporter who last fall caught workers at Chrysler's Jefferson North Plant in Detroit spending their lunch hour drinking beer before going back to build the newly launched Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Yeah, that's all complete nonsense, and I actually earn my living and compete with others based on the quality of my work as an individual. Congratulations on being a driving force in GM, Chrysler, and Ford's tens of billions in losses, ridiculous wages for unskilled labor at $75/hr (base + benefits), with poor quality control and higher assembly error rates per JDPowers than non-Union Honda and Toyota factories right here in the United States, where work ethic and skill is divorced from compensation since all that really matters is you don't step on anyones toes, know the right people to get the job, don't do more work than you're supposed to, and stay there for a long time. I'm glad that my taxes went to support the continued leaching on American industries though, I didn't really need a new TV anyway.
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...aught-doping-drinking----again/1#.VXMYds9VhBc
UAW forced Chrysler to rehire these workers that were fired for blatantly lazy work culture drinking and getting high on the job.
The 8 hour work day / 40 hour work week can suck it. Three tens. We spend too much of our lives at work.
I think they are trying to show off how precise the robot arms can be, because the more precise they are, obviously the more jobs they can do. It means they can produce for example far more consistent and precise welds than and average human welder, and work all day and all night 24x7x365 without unionizing and striking or smoking weed on breaks like those UAW employees here in the US were caught doing or jumping off of buildings like in China.
36 Reasons Why You Should Thank a Union
Weekends
All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
Paid Vacation
FMLA
Sick Leave
Social Security
Minimum Wage
Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
8-Hour Work Day
Overtime Pay
Child Labor Laws
Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
40 Hour Work Week
Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
Unemployment Insurance
Pensions
Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
Employer Health Care Insurance
Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
Wrongful Termination Laws
Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
Whistleblower Protection Laws
Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
Sexual Harassment Laws
Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
Holiday Pay
Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
Privacy Rights
Pregnancy and Parental Leave
Military Leave
The Right to Strike
Public Education for Children
Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States
Proud UAW member here!
Unions are garbage; Just ask any of the auto-industry folks up north.
Unions are garbage; Just ask any of the auto-industry folks up north.
Why would anyone one that gravy train complain? Drink on the job and NOT get fired? Sign me up!
How many tatami mats does it cut through in a quarter mile?I have a nice old Katana. it's red and has a 750cc engine.
How many tatami mats does it cut through in a quarter mile?