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i7's effect on Core 2 Pricing??

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wildkatz84

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How quickly/sharply can we expect to see the Core 2 series price drop after the release of the i7...in your opinion?
 
core 2's might go up..........last time i got my Q6600 for 170 now its for 189? wtf?
 
Slim to none. Different platforms no reason/need for them to drop prices with demand as high as it is
 
mista ting said:
core 2's might go up..........last time i got my Q6600 for 170 now its for 189? wtf?
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supply and demand. They're ramping down production of the Q6600, but the demand is still there so price is gonna go up.
 
^ All that above. Core2 is already priced competitively. And if Core2 prices go down, think about what this will do to AMD. Go search for the Intel price cut sheet for ~Q4, minimal cuts.
 
lowteckh said:
^ All that above. Core2 is already priced competitively. And if Core2 prices go down, think about what this will do to AMD. Go search for the Intel price cut sheet for ~Q4, minimal cuts.
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No real effect on Kentsfield (Q6xx0) pricing; but then, Kentsfields were Going Away.
Low-end Yorkfield (especially Q9300), on the other hand; that has been impacted severely (Q9300 is now either right around the $200USD price tag; some retailers, notably MicroCenter, are pricing it identically to Q6600). Q8200 prices have also slid downward (MicroCenter has priced Q6600/8200/9300 identically in-store; all three are retail-boxed processors with stock HSF and three-year warranties.)

http://www.microcenter.com/search/s...by=pricelow&web_group=byopc_proc&category=HB3

Q6600: dual-dual 65nm, 8 MB cache, VT support
Q8200: dual-dual 45nm, 4 MB cache, no VT
Q9300: dual-dual 45nm, 6 MB cache, VT support

Next up are Core i7 920 and Q9550 (again, priced identically).
So no real effect on the midrange processor market; however, major effect on the low end quad-core market.
 
I don't think Q9x50 prices are going to go down much until the Core i5 comes out. Sucks for me as I want to upgrade to a Q9550 (maybe the 65W version). If you consider Q stuff as non-server, and i7 as server-class stuff, then there is no need to drop prices. Once i5 comes out, which is considered non-server type stuff, then prices will drop (ie, Q9550 for $200 ;)).
 
I tend to agree with everything everyone is saying. I would also add that, in my opinion anyway, the cost of the CPU is only one reason why demand for the core2duo and core2quad is so high. The fact is that these chips are so powerful 99% of people are fine with them and don't need the i7. In addition, the x58 boards and DDR3 ram add a large bump in the price tag for a system. There are lots of wonderful boards out there at quite reasonable prices for core2's. And as for DDR2 ram, what can I say, I just bought some 1066mHz Corsair ram, 2GB for $9 after rebate. How can you beat that.

So, bottom line, high demand will mean low incentive to drop core2 prices.
 
Yea prices are not going anywhere for a while due to 3 reasons

1) x58 mobos are expensive
2) DDR3 is overpriced
3) most people dont need the performance benefits that come with an i7 setup.

a q6600 is more power then your avg computer user is ever going to use.
That and you can build a Dually LGA771 with dual quadcores xeons, and FB-Dimms for about the same price you can build a comprable i7 setup.

I might just be blowing smoke but I would bet that my 8 core rig @ 1.86ghz will outdo a comprable i7 920 setup.
 
As someone looking to upgrade from an old AMD 64 3200. Would the Q9300 be the best deal at the moment? Or is the Q6600 still the one to get.

Q6600: dual-dual 65nm, 8 MB cache, VT support
Q8200: dual-dual 45nm, 4 MB cache, no VT
Q9300: dual-dual 45nm, 6 MB cache, VT support
 
fuzzbutt99 said:
As someone looking to upgrade from an old AMD 64 3200. Would the Q9300 be the best deal at the moment? Or is the Q6600 still the one to get.
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Depends if you'll be overclocking or not. If you will be, then the Q6600 is probably the better choice. If you won't, then the Q9300 would be better.
 
BTW, a used Q6600 can be had on eBay for $125US or less. I got attracted to this about 4 weeks ago (since the q6600 is as fast as the 2.6Ghz Phenom) but ended up buying an Intel Q9550 system (q9550 + 6GB quality PC6400 ddr2 + asus p5q pro + antec 650w 80+ ps) . Best $500 (actually closer to $400 when msft pays me cash back) I have ever spent in the 27 years I have been buying computers..
 
fuzzbutt99 said:
As someone looking to upgrade from an old AMD 64 3200. Would the Q9300 be the best deal at the moment? Or is the Q6600 still the one to get.

Q6600: dual-dual 65nm, 8 MB cache, VT support
Q8200: dual-dual 45nm, 4 MB cache, no VT
Q9300: dual-dual 45nm, 6 MB cache, VT support
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With Q6600 and Q9300 priced identically (and given that they pretty much OC identically), as long as your motherboard can take either, it's going to be how well your apps use the additional 2 MB of on-die cache in the Q6600 that determines if it is still the better choice.

However, if you want taller clocks (and especially if you want to move beyond 3 GHz with stock cooling) or if your application mix is more toward transcoding and other video work, then the Q9300 is the best choice, despite the 2 MB on-chip cache deficit.
 
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