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Ladic

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This has been happening for a few months now, and since then I've formatted my PC and reinstalled everything and still same problem.
It doesnt always happen, but I'd say about 60% of the time.
So here is the deal:

Everymorning when I first turn on the PC, everything powers on, except nothing comes on the screen, it stays black, I have to rest or turn off/on again and the PC will work fine.

I'm not sure why this could be happening???
 
Could be something inside the case shorting out the motherboard. Could also be a PSU problem.

What are the specs of your PC?
 
CPU: AMD X2 3600
MOBO: Biostar not sure model.
Ram: 2gb (1gbx2) OCZ DDR2 800
Video: Radeon 1950Pro
PSU: Thermaltake 430Watt.
 
No beeps? What if you do a hard reset after it doesn't boot (rather than turning it off/on again)?
 
no beeps.

If I press reset, the computer will restart normally and will work fine.

Like I said, when I first start it up nothing happens, but if I reset or shutoff shut on again, it will work fine.
 
Check for bulging caps on the motherboard. Might try a different vid card to rule that out. PCI, whatever
 
Just to rule out the power on switch, I would short the jumpers for the power switch with a screwdriver or dime, but I seriously doubt this is the problem.

Edit: would definitely swap power supplies with a trusted one if that is available.
 
unfortunately I dont' have a spare PSU, but if I leave my PC like this, will the PSU eventually burn down all of its components?
 
Do you have the TR2 Tt 430W? If so, I'm guessing that PSU isn't good enough for your system anymore. While it may have been at one point, it could be overworked, causing it to fail slowly. Though, I could be wrong, but I still think its power related.

BMWlover said:
Just to rule out the power on switch, I would short the jumpers for the power switch with a screwdriver or dime, but I seriously doubt this is the problem.

Edit: would definitely swap power supplies with a trusted one if that is available.
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I agree with bimmer lover, swap PSUs if you can find a willing friend.

|CMF|SoulAssassin said:
you could always get a power supply tester from newegg their only about $20.00 Bucks just to make sure to eliminate the pwr supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899887004

BMWlover - How would you actually do that i would love to see a video of this
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A multimeter would be better than a PSU tester, along with the paperclip jumpstart method. This will let you see how well your rails are doing.

To power on the system without a switch, unplug the power switch from the board, and use anything metallic to "jump" the two pins -- its quite simple, really. Most people use a screwdriver. You've got to "jump" it for about 2 seconds.
 
Ladic said:
Would it be enough if I upgraded to this one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148027
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Hell no. You're basically trading a low-quality PSU for a PC killing PSU. Never go with an Apevia PSU unless you want a dead system.

Do you have a Best Buy, Circuit City or Fry's nearby? If so, pick up a PSU (Antec Earthwatts is the most common) from those stores, see whether or not your TR2 is the problem, and once done testing, return that PSU back to the store and buy a new one online. By doing this you accomplish three things:
- No need to wait a few days to test your system
- If the PSU is not the problem, you don't have to pay a 15% restocking fee when you return the PSU
- If the PSU is the problem, you don't have to pay a 15% restocking fee when you return the PSU and you can get a better/cheaper PSU online.
 
enginurd said:
I thought BB and CC do charge restocking fees?
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I know BB doesn't. I've return a few things to them and I've never been charged a restocking fee. Then again that was 8 months ago so maybe their policy might have changed.
 
Ahh, I bought a laptop at BB, which is one of the things that has a restocking fee if opened prior to return. Looks like the same policy at CC.
 
Here's what it says on the BB receipt for my PNY 8800GT:
Restocking Fee: A restocking fee of 15% will be charged on opened notebook computers, projectors, camcorders, digital cameras, radar detectors, GPS/navigation and in-car video systems unless defective or prohibited by law. A restocking fee of 25% will be charged on Special Order Products, including appliances, unless defective or prohibited by law
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So BB does charge restocking fees, just on certain items though. But not power supplies ;)
 
ok, I was reading the instuction manual and I noticed that I had not placed the 2 sticks of ram in Dual Channel mode, so I went ahead and placed them correctly, and I havent had a problem in the last few times I turned the system on.
It seems strange, but could this have been the problem?
 
Ladic said:
ok, I was reading the instuction manual and I noticed that I had not placed the 2 sticks of ram in Dual Channel mode, so I went ahead and placed them correctly, and I havent had a problem in the last few times I turned the system on.
It seems strange, but could this have been the problem?
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Seems unlikely unless the RAM was poorly seated before they were in dual channel and re-seating them helped the problem.
 
could it be that one of the ram slots was faulty or something maybe?
 
Ok guys, so I replaced the PSU like 2 weeks ago, and everything seemed fine for a bit, and then same thing started happening, only now, I would turn it on and nothing appeared on screen, everything powered on fine but the screen was black.

I have tried changing video cards, swapping hard drives, chaning ram and onto different slot, unplugging cd rom, about only thing I can think of right now, is that the Motherboard is dying.

Now sometimes I need to restart the pc like 20 times and then I might get it to boot OK, and then it will boot OK several times in a row, and then back to having nothing on the screen.

Do u think it can be the MOBO???? only things I have not tried replacing is Mobo and CPU.
 
Could be MB. You might look for bulging/leaking Caps. had the same problem on an old EpOX board
 
Look at the capacitors on the motherboard. The round cyliders. If the are bulging at the top, they are going bad. They may even be leaking electrolyte onto the motherboard. Bad/dirty power kills these types of electonics components.
 
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