I have had it with this 6800!!!

KingPariah777 said:
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thats fine, if the ultra was 20 times more powerful than the vanilla 6800, it would only run at 10 frames per second.

But the Ultra ISN'T 20 times more powerful than this card, its twice as powerful, if that.

It still doesn't make sense that I would get .5 FPS.
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it is not running at a constant 60 FPS

WTF is in your head to think that? mine is maybe running 30 at its highest

get a clue
 
Personally, I've never understood why ppl try to run a 2nd display when gaming.. considering the vast amounts of hardware resources to play todays games at a decent framerate, the last thing you want to be doing is trying to run a 2nd monitor playing a DVD or something..

Unless a game is made to run on 2 monitors, disable it.. Are you really going to be trying to watch a movie while playing a game? Or just having a blank desktop on a monitor while you play your games?

to each his own, but as a dual monitor user myself, I just don't see the point.. I have one word to say about all of this.. Ultramon.. Use it, and all is well.. time for a game? right click on the ultramon icon, and hit disable secondary monitor... Poof!! the magic starts to happen, and you have just one monitor running.. you play your game, get some headshots in, quit your game.. Now, pay attention.. this is where it gets really good... right click on ultramon again, hit enable secondary monitor, and POOF!!!! magically, your 2nd monitor comes back to life will all resolution and refresh rates in tact!!!!


but hey.. if you want to return your card, because you have some bizarre urge to watch pron while you take heads off with a shotgun in CS or whatever, be my guest.. ;)
 
DermicSavage said:
it is not running at a constant 60 FPS

WTF is in your head to think that? mine is maybe running 30 at its highest

get a clue
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EXCUSE ME? who said ANYTHING about 60 frames per second?

I said 10 FRAMES PER SECOND, not even 30. My example proves my point, because yours is running 60 TIMES the framerate of mine, but my card isn't 60 times slower!

READ, GENIUS. Don't respond to my thread by insulting me, everything you have said has nothing to do with anything I have written
 
You seem angry, I would be too... try checking your drivers again and make sure the card is getting some good cooling otherwise it may throttle down to avoid killing it self
 
x1600c said:
You seem angry, I would be too... try checking your drivers again and make sure the card is getting some good cooling otherwise it may throttle down to avoid killing it self
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Never considered this...ill give it a try.
 
DermicSavage said:
i hope you realize the nalu demo was made for the 6800 ULTRA, and it still slows down on my 6800GT @ ultra speeds

nalu runs the card for more power than it has, no shit it runs at .5 fps on yours

you have to take note on more than just the framerate... you also need to take note of what ti is rendering, note the MASSIVE number of hairs being rendered... even an x800 would choke
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Umm, it runs what appears to be great on my 6800GT *knock on wood*
 
KingPariah777 said:
True, true...I have until the 29th of this month to return this card...I might just use it until then (i DO get good framerates in most games) and then use my ti4400 until a better offering comes by. The drivers SHOULD have been fixed by now...there is no excuse for this.
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Here's the thing. I used to use Dual Monitors w/ my old Ti4200. I loved it. I still do love it. However, I found that in order for me to use two monitors and have everything work the way I wanted it to, I had to use a second system to power the second monitor. Granted, it's nothing special, just a 1700XP with 768MB RAM and a 40 + 40 GB hard drive with the aforementioned Ti4200. It allows me to view whatever I need to view on the second monitor while in game (such as Ventrilo list, webpages for ladder rules, etc and so on). The only bad thing is the second keyboard/mouse. Although I could easily use a KVM switch, I'd rather not.

There are a lot of options of how to deal with this. Obviously you're not happy. But there are ways to make yourself happy at least for the short term, a lot of which will probably make you happy in the long term. Hopefully you find whatever works for you.

Drivers will fix this eventually....
 
Back to the original issues...
Have you tried to increase the AGP aperture to 256 (in bios)?

It fixed my slideshow-nalu-demo problem.
 
ech3lon9 said:
Back to the original issues...
Have you tried to increase the AGP aperture to 256 (in bios)?

It fixed my slideshow-nalu-demo problem.
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Guess what! IT WORKED!

no more slideshow...Nalu runs smooth as butter now! Amazing!

Now I have to understand why...what is the point in buying a 256 MB video card if you can just increase the AGP aperture and get the same performance? Or is it the same thing?

EDIT: By the way, my tv-out is still Fubared, as is the dual monitor situation, which I am still pissed about, so the return to Best Buy still may happen...
 
KingPariah777 said:
Now I have to understand why...what is the point in buying a 256 MB video card if you can just increase the AGP aperture and get the same performance? Or is it the same thing?
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Just increasing the AGP aperture is not going to fix this problem. What the AGP aperture allows is your system to use more physical RAM when the video RAM fills up. It's like allocating physical RAM as a video swap file almost. It should be set to at least 256 with that card. I believe I'm running it at 512MB, which is half of my RAM.
 
Barnaby said:
but hey.. if you want to return your card, because you have some bizarre urge to watch pron while you take heads off with a shotgun in CS or whatever, be my guest.. ;)
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When I had four monitors, I would watch four pornos at once
 
Ludic said:
I hope you're kidding.
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it was stupid, ill admit it...one porno is good enough.

But i did have four monitors...and i did watch four pornos at once just to see if it was better...
 
starhawk said:
nope. king digitalorgy did.
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Actually, I think you did. Fine, so you hate pr0n. To each their own. Do you feel the need to make 3 different posts about it or are you just performing Post_Count++?
 
Heh.... Nothin wrong with one handed surfin :D

Glad to hear you got Nalu running.
 
wfalcon said:
Actually, I think you did. Fine, so you hate pr0n. To each their own. Do you feel the need to make 3 different posts about it or are you just performing Post_Count++?
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perhaps you are right. and yes, i did feel the need to make 3 posts on it.

wtf is post_count++?! sounds like a joke to me...
 
Dude, that wasn't hard increasing the AGP apperture size was it? I've had the same problem, and 2 other people on this very forum did too. You could have searched for it before posting.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=819020

OR you could have asked for help BEFORE condemning your computer part. I think you owe someone an apology, yup, apologize to your video card. Now kiss and make up. That's right, you like that, kiss that video card, it's natural to like it, thats right, yeaaa, oh yeaaaa. Stuff your big AGP into that video card! Haha.
 
provoko said:
Now kiss and make up. That's right, you like that, kiss that video card, it's natural to like it, thats right, yeaaa, oh yeaaaa. Stuff your big AGP into that video card! Haha.
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provoko said:
OR you could have asked for help BEFORE condemning your computer part. I think you owe someone an apology, yup, apologize to your video card. Now kiss and make up. That's right, you like that, kiss that video card, it's natural to like it, thats right, yeaaa, oh yeaaaa. Stuff your big AGP into that video card! Haha.
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Not quite yet...there is still the problem of the black and white tv-out, and the no hardware acceleration on the second monitor bug...

Help me out with that one, and I will be happy...but until then...
 
The black and white TV output I'm at a loss for... I'd suspect cable or input damage but if you've checked the cables and the TV's input with another device then the card may just be bad (have you checked it on another TV?).

As for the dual display bug, what does the setting affect? I remember reading about it but never really understood what it did (disabling hardware acceleration on the second display). Does it mean the processor takes a hit as it's forced to handle some of the processing the vid card would've done on that screen or does it reffer to 3D only?

I'm planning to move to dual displays on Christmas, hence the interest. :cool:
 
KingPariah777 said:
Get shitty framerates and keep my current settings ( and be able to watch TV while gaming)
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Um don't know much about your setup and this was toward the begining but just though.... since ur running 2 different pretty graphical things on ur vid card i wouldn't complain to much if ur tryin to watch tv and game at the same time .... (maybe you didn't mean this literally but uhhh if you did i would think this might be your prob.... also i have never had to much prob with dual MONITOR setups but whenever i try and do a dual display setup that includes a TV it always sux balls.
 
lentic said:
Um don't know much about your setup and this was toward the begining but just though.... since ur running 2 different pretty graphical things on ur vid card i wouldn't complain to much if ur tryin to watch tv and game at the same time .... (maybe you didn't mean this literally but uhhh if you did i would think this might be your prob.... also i have never had to much prob with dual MONITOR setups but whenever i try and do a dual display setup that includes a TV it always sux balls.
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Impulse said:
As for the dual display bug, what does the setting affect? I remember reading about it but never really understood what it did (disabling hardware acceleration on the second display). Does it mean the processor takes a hit as it's forced to handle some of the processing the vid card would've done on that screen or does it reffer to 3D only?
. :cool:
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You should be able to run a 3d game on one monitor and a 2d video on the second monitor without any problem.

My ti4400 did this flawlessly, with no performance drops. I shouldn't have to jack around with drivers to get around some bug that shouldnt' be there in the first place.

I game while watching TV. I expect my new video card to be able to do this AS WELL as my old ti4400.

There is nothing wrong with that expectation.
 
I was just asking as I didn't know what the setting affected, I understand other cards could handle it with ease... Still not sure what is it you lose when disabling hardware accel on the second display, does it apply to 3d only or does disabling it make video playback on the 2nd display sluggish for instance despite fixing the fps problems on the main disp.?
 
KingPariah777 said:
Oh...if the Geek Squad decides to give me any shit about returning this card for a full refund, ill jump that counter and shove one of their bow-ties up their ass.
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Man, I feel you pain. BB general existence and the problems I have had with stuf from them is PRECISELY the reason I won't even buy a CD from them...
 
Impulse said:
I was just asking as I didn't know what the setting affected, I understand other cards could handle it with ease... Still not sure what is it you lose when disabling hardware accel on the second display, does it apply to 3d only or does disabling it make video playback on the 2nd display sluggish for instance despite fixing the fps problems on the main disp.?
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Shouldn't affect either...at some point it can get sluggish, like if you are watching two different DVD's and a video game on three monitors, but watching low resolution TV on one while playing a game on the other shouldn't slow it down at all.

And I shouldn't have to disable sections of the drivers every time I upgrade or reinstall them just to get my system working properly.
 
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