I got my 20 pipe Gainward 7800GS today! :D

there's something strangely satisfying about having a red Nvidia card. Actually, now that I think about it, all of my Nvidia cards except my original tnt2ultra have been red :p
 
Here is the response I got back from Gainward on the max resolution capable with the Bliss 7800+. He thinks you can do 2560 x1600 with DVI link, but you also need a monitor capable of those resolutions as well. Anyone here have an Apple cinema HD 30" display or a Dell 3007wfp? You'll need to set your desktop resolution to match the monitor resolution found under "my computer". Also can anyone confirm that the Gainward is a true single Dual-link DVI? Not just a Dual DVI (meaning two separate single DVI outputs). I really want this card. I have an AGP system I'm not ready to part with yet as its all maxed out and good for another 2 years or so. Then of course I'll build a fresh one from scratch.




RESPONSE FROM GAINWARD:

hello, i can say sure 1920x1200 digital, that is all what can my Samsung 24". the chip will work on dual DVI at 2560x1600 digital, but i can´t test it.

best regards

Uwe Hebestadt

Technical support

GAINWARD Europe GmbH

Lochhamer Strasse 29

Rückgebäude

D-82152 Martinsried

Germany

Fon: +49-(0)89-89899-29

Fax: +49-(0)89-89899-196

E-Mail: [email protected]

Internet: http://www.gainward.de
 
LawGiver said:
none of the 7800 Series cards have 24 "real" pipes just in case anyone is confused. They have 24 "pixel shaders" (just as X1900 cards have 48) and the 7800/7900 cards are all 16 "pipe" cards in the traditional use of the term. In fact, the 7800 GTX has the same pixel "fill rate" as the 6800 Ultra. Why? Because both have 16 ROPs. The GTX however has 10.32G/sec "texture fill rate", as opposed to 6.8G/sec on the 6800 Ultra because of the 8 extra pixel shaders (6800 U has 16 pixel shaders).
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You need to read more lawgiver. lol
Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-032-GW)
A 256-bit memory interface and fast GDDR3 memory enable blazing graphics performance with the quality set to max so you don’t have to choose between frame rates and image quality. Need a break from gaming? The GeForce 7900 GPU also delivers smooth, high-definition video playback and crisp picture quality thanks to its advanced NVIDIA® PureVideo™ technology. If you are searching for an extreme HD gaming and video experience on the PC, look no further than a Geforce 7900 GPU. This is a one production run of 7900 GT''s made available for AGP users making these truly the quickest AGP cards ever produced and extremely overclockable with 500MHz core speed easily achievable along with 1400MHz memory speed when overclocking.

Gainward do it again! This is the only 7900GT card with 24 pixel pipelines available on AGP. Then along with its 512MB of super-fast GDDR3 memory making this the worlds fastest AGP card ever produced. There is only 1500 units available worldwide!! So be quick as this is a deal not to be missed!

- GeForce™ 7900 GT GPU running at 450MHz+ (Great Overclocking Potential)
- 512MB 1250MHz+ high speed GDDR3 memory (Great Overclocking Potential)
- Superscalar 24-Pipe GPU Architecture
- SILENT Cooling solution
- High-Speed DDR 256-bit Memory Interface
- Dual 400MHz RAMDACs
- Designed For Extreme HD Gaming – Delivering Ultra Realistic Gaming Experiences
- Built for Windows Vista – The next generation operating system
- Dual link DVI support
- Shader Model 3.0 Support
- True High Dynamic Range Rendering Support – Based on Open EXR technology
Quote from overclockers UK. I must admit this card does not have a 7800 GPU but it was marketed that way to make Nividia happy. The 7800GS Gainward has 20 pipes and a 7800GT core. These Gainward cards are not like others in the market.
 
omg, you realy are a noobie, lol. Shaders kid, shaders. Again, ur card does not have usable 24 pixel pipes, it has 24 pixel shaders. And 16 "real pipelines", usable that is. And please dont post like an advertisement.
 
LawGiver said:
omg, you realy are a noobie, lol. Shaders kid, shaders. Again, ur card does not have usable 24 pixel pipes, it has 24 pixel shaders. And 16 "real pipelines", usable that is. And please dont post like an advertisement.
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Read the whole thread Lawgiver. lol A noobie has outposted you as your facts are not accurate. lol This card(Gainward 7800GS) in the article has 20 pipes not pixel shaders. The other card has 24 pipes not pixel shaders. (Gainward 7800GS+) Although I am a noob here in other forums I am not. lol I did my research and read all the information. These cards are not your everyday 7800GS cards, Thats why we bought them. lol
By the way this kid could be your Daddy. lol I am 55. Hard to see that on a computer though huh?

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30502

"GeForce 7800GS turning AGP..
Gainwards offers to all true high-end enthusiasts who still have not made the move to PCI-Express. A product that has been called "a Wolf in sheep clothing". The product is BLISS 7800GS AGP Golden Sample and it comes with 20 instead of 16 pipelines... do we need to say more....."
That quote is directly from the company that makes the card. Keep in mind there are two different cards. The first one was a 7800GS with a 7800GT core bridged down for AGP. The secound card is a 7800GS+ with a 7900GT core bridged down for AGP. These cards are unique and different than other 7800GS cards.
 
*sigh*, I give up. Someone else may wanna try.

LawGiver said:
none of the 7800 Series cards have 24 "real" pipes just in case anyone is confused. They have 24 "pixel shaders" (just as X1900 cards have 48) and the 7800/7900 cards are all 16 "pipe" cards in the traditional use of the term. In fact, the 7800 GTX has the same pixel "fill rate" as the 6800 Ultra. Why? Because both have 16 ROPs. The GTX however has 10.32G/sec "texture fill rate", as opposed to 6.8G/sec on the 6800 Ultra because of the 8 extra pixel shaders (6800 U has 16 pixel shaders).
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This might help ya, if it dosnt than nothing will...

"These cards are a bit special
- Gainward BLISS 7800 GS SILENT 512MB (425/1200) (AGP)
- 20 pixel shader units – 20 TMUs – 16 ROPs - 7 vertex shader units
This is essentially a 7800 GT disguised as a 7800 GS. A 7800 GTX (reference frequencies) is about 15 % faster.
- Gainward BLISS 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB (450/1250) (AGP)
- 24 pixel shader units – 24 TMUs – 16 ROPs - 8 vertex shader units
This is essentially a 7900 GT disguised as a 7800 GS. Because of the slower memory frequency it's marginally slower."

Click Here:
http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164
 
You do not read. lol Ok lets do this by questions. Which core does a regular 7800GS have according to future mark. Now secound question which core does a Gainward 7800GS card have? That information you posted was against the law. lol It speaks in general and not to the specific cards we are talking about here. Those are the general Nividia specs I do agree. These cards DO NOT go by those specs. You are missing the whole point lawgiver why these cards are different and how.

"This card's magic is that it actually has G71, Geforce 7800 GT PCIe core bridged down to AGP. It has G70 core with full 20 pipelines that worked at 425 MHz and famous BR2 chip managed to bridge the card down to AGP. It finally made perfect sense as 20 pipelines has to be faster than the 16 that you get with EVGA card. EVGA 7800 GS card works at 460 MHz 1350Mhz core and we managed to reproduce the same clocks with the Gainward card. Gainward uses Arctic cooling for this card and we can tell that it does the job. It is very silent and it will keep the card cool and even let you overclock a lot."

Now your are correct about the pixel shaders but wrong about the pipes. I did not speak to pixel shaders only pipes. I do agree what you found at future mark is 100% correct but its not the whole story.

"These cards are a bit special
- Gainward BLISS 7800 GS SILENT 512MB (425/1200) (AGP)
- 20 pixel shader units – 20 TMUs – 16 ROPs - 7 vertex shader units
This is essentially a 7800 GT disguised as a 7800 GS. A 7800 GTX (reference frequencies) is about 15 % faster.
- Gainward BLISS 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB (450/1250) (AGP)
- 24 pixel shader units – 24 TMUs – 16 ROPs - 8 vertex shader units
This is essentially a 7900 GT disguised as a 7800 GS. Because of the slower memory frequency it's marginally slower."





LawGiver said:
This might help ya, if it dosnt than nothing will...

"These cards are a bit special
- Gainward BLISS 7800 GS SILENT 512MB (425/1200) (AGP)
- 20 pixel shader units – 20 TMUs – 16 ROPs - 7 vertex shader units
This is essentially a 7800 GT disguised as a 7800 GS. A 7800 GTX (reference frequencies) is about 15 % faster.
- Gainward BLISS 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB (450/1250) (AGP)
- 24 pixel shader units – 24 TMUs – 16 ROPs - 8 vertex shader units
This is essentially a 7900 GT disguised as a 7800 GS. Because of the slower memory frequency it's marginally slower."

Click Here:
http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164
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The Great Gainward topic
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I see there is a lot "confusion" about the Gainward 7800GS AGP products.
And since there wa7s in the past, I think it's a very good idea starting a Gainward topic, in which we can post info and questions related to gainward products.

Let me give you some information:
There are 3 types of 7800GS:


Gainward 7685-BLISS 7800GS 256MB TV-DVI AGP
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS
Chip: 7800GT
Memory capacity: 256MB 1,6ns DDR
Clockspeed Core: 375MHZ
Clockspeed Mem: 1200MHZ
Pipes: 20
Gainwards barcode: 471846200-7685






Gainward 7739-BLISS 7800GS Silent 512MB
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS AGP 512MB
Chip: 7800GT
Memory capacity: 512MB 1,4ns GDDR3
Clockspeed Core: 425MHZ
Clockspeed Mem: 1200MHZ
Pipes: 20
Gainwards barcode: 47846200-7739






Gainward 7876-BLISS 7800GS Silent 512MB GS+
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS GoldenSample AGP 512MB
Chip: 7800GT
Core: 450MHZ
Mem: 1250MHZ
Pipes: 24
Gainwards barcode: 471846200-7876





On many websites they say there is a Gainward 7900GT GS voor AGP...this is not true. The refer to the last one above: the 7800GS GoldenSample, which functions as a real 7900GT due to its 512MB and its 24 pipelines.

The problem of these cards is that they are unique and very hard to get....as always....
I called Alternate Germany and they can deliver this GoldenSample in 5 days. So it's hard to find in Europe...


When anyone has some more info or questions about gainward, let us discuss them here.
 
One last time...It is NOT a 20 Pipe card. Sorry, live with it. This would be like calling a X1900 XT a 48 pipe card. The x1900 XT has 48 Pixel shaders, the 7800 GS has 20 Pixel shaders. You can keep living in lala land. I think you are a little behind the times, things are not like they used to be. oh and I think you're kinda blind cause what I posted was exactly about the cards we are talking about, get a clue. You're like a child that doesnt wanna face reality.
 
LawGiver said:
One last time...It is NOT a 20 Pipe card. Sorry, live with it. This would be like calling a X1900 XT a 48 pipe card. The x1900 XT has 48 Pixel shaders, the 7800 GS has 20 Pixel shaders. You can keep living in lala land. I think you are a little behind the times, things are not like they used to be. oh and I think you're kinda blind cause what I posted was exactly about the cards we are talking about, get a clue. You're like a child that doesnt wanna face reality.
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You are saying that a PCI-E 7800GT PCI-E cards are 16 pixelpipes/20shaderpipes and the 7800GTX is 16 pixelpipes/24 shaderpipes?
Would you please take your trolling into a seperate thread please...

Oh...BTW...Facts just for you:
X1800XT = 16 pixelpipes/16shaders/8 vertex/16 ROPS
X1900XT = 16 pixelpipes/48 shaders/8 vertex/16 ROPS
6800GT = 16 pixelpipes/16 shaders/6 vertex/16 ROPS
7800GT = 20 pixelpipes/20 shaders/7 vetex/16 ROPS
7800GTX = 24 pixelpies/24 shaders/8 vertex/16 ROPS
7800GS(AGP) = 16 pixelpies/16 shaders/6 vertex/8 ROPS

The Gainward AGP 7800GS Bliss 512MB is 20 pixelpipes/20 shaders/7 vetex/16 ROPS...
As is is a full-flegded 7800GT PCI-E core on AGP via the NVIDIA brigde-chip.

Terra - Read any review, they will state the same...
 
Quick post for benchmarks.
Quake 4 :
Geforce 6800GT 2214 frames 39.7 seconds 55.8 fps
Geforce 7800GS+ 2214 frames 18.3 seconds 121.1fps

3DMark6
Geforce 6800GT
Score 2186
sm test 846
hdr test 884
cpu test 930

Geforce 7800GS+

Score 3863
sm test 1752
hdr test 1749
coy test 928
Tryed out Coolbits2 first go at overclocking the core went from 450 core to 512 and the memory went from 625/1.2 to 755/1.5, but it failed when running 3dmarks on last test, looked like the memory needs to breakin before going at it again.
 
LawGiver said:
One last time...It is NOT a 20 Pipe card. Sorry, live with it. This would be like calling a X1900 XT a 48 pipe card. The x1900 XT has 48 Pixel shaders, the 7800 GS has 20 Pixel shaders. You can keep living in lala land. I think you are a little behind the times, things are not like they used to be. oh and I think you're kinda blind cause what I posted was exactly about the cards we are talking about, get a clue. You're like a child that doesnt wanna face reality.
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Look Lawgiver just becuase you are too lazy to read about the specific cards that we are talking about means nothing. I have explained it has a different GPU to you clearly. Terra also has explained this clearly. We both own the card and researched it fully. Just becuase you will not look beyond a GENERAL chart at futuremark does not put you in the know. Also riva tuner shows this card having 20 pipelines. It performs like a card with 20 pipelines. If you are board and want to argue try a political thread. If you want to talk facts and the truth matters to you read the article at the Inquier showing the picture of the GPU. Do you know what a GPU does? Would the GPU not determine pipelines?
If it make's you feel better believe what you will. lol This card has 20 pipelines and it overclocks like one with 20 pipelines. Not all 7800GS cards are created equally. Oh technically speaking from your little chart at future mark the card is a 7800GT AGP.

"Gainward 7800GS 512MB really a 7800GT
I thought I should let you guys know that Gainward is back, after a period of custom graphic cards their enthusiasm seems to have died down. But now they are back with a vengance. They released a few cards with double the memory, 512MB instead of the usual 256MB. But to top things off, they seem to have taken a 7800GT core and bridged it down to AGP. So this card does not only have half a gigabyte of memory, but 20 pipelines as well. They even top if off with some serious cooling from Arctic Cooling. So if you are looking for the fasted AGP card out there, you will need to grab yourself one of these."
Quote from http://www.techpowerup.com/?10082
 
AMD Fan said:
Look Lawgiver just becuase you are too lazy to read about the specific cards that we are talking about means nothing. I have explained it has a different GPU to you clearly. Terra also has explained this clearly. We both own the card and researched it fully. Just becuase you will not look beyond a GENERAL chart at futuremark does not put you in the know. Also riva tuner shows this card having 20 pipelines. It performs like a card with 20 pipelines. If you are board and want to argue try a political thread. If you want to talk facts and the truth matters to you read the article at the Inquier showing the picture of the GPU. Do you know what a GPU does? Would the GPU not determine pipelines?
If it make's you feel better believe what you will. lol This card has 20 pipelines and it overclocks like one with 20 pipelines. Not all 7800GS cards are created equally. Oh technically speaking from your little chart at future mark the card is a 7800GT AGP.

"Gainward 7800GS 512MB really a 7800GT
I thought I should let you guys know that Gainward is back, after a period of custom graphic cards their enthusiasm seems to have died down. But now they are back with a vengance. They released a few cards with double the memory, 512MB instead of the usual 256MB. But to top things off, they seem to have taken a 7800GT core and bridged it down to AGP. So this card does not only have half a gigabyte of memory, but 20 pipelines as well. They even top if off with some serious cooling from Arctic Cooling. So if you are looking for the fasted AGP card out there, you will need to grab yourself one of these."
Quote from http://www.techpowerup.com/?10082
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I guess we shouldn't mention the Gainward 7800GS+ Bliss then...a 24 pipe G71 7900GT core on AGP ;)

Terra...
 
Another question I have about the 7800GS cards in general...

First off, I have a 6800 Ultra (see sig). I would love to get the Gainward card, but that may not be financially possible right now. But I could get a BFG (or similar) 7800GS. Would it really be worth it? Games: FS2004, BF2, Neverwinter Nights (mabe NWN2 when it comes out).
 
The 6800 Ultra and a regular 7800GS are allot alike. In my view its not worth the money. if your current card plays all your games well I would stay with it. What CPU is in your system? The CPU can also bottleneck the Gainward cards.

Looked at your specs (P4 3.0E @ 3.87ghz) Yes your CPU is fine for the Gainward cards.
 
AMD Fan said:
The 6800 Ultra and a regular 7800GS are allot alike. In my view its not worth the money. if your current card plays all your games well I would stay with it. What CPU is in your system? The CPU can also bottleneck the Gainward cards.

Looked at your specs (P4 3.0E @ 3.87ghz) Yes your CPU is fine for the Gainward cards.
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Recheck my sig mate... been doing a bit of retuning on the OC over the weekend... ;)

It's stable there but I don't think it will go much higher. Gonna try to hit 4.0 in the next week or so.

Now, if there was a way to get the 6800U up a bit higher than it is... That is pretty much the ceiling on it though.
 
They say a CPU over 3.0 GHZ will run these cards fairly well. Yes a more intensive CPU will add greater benefit but 3.0 GHZ is not bad. We are speaking in aproximate terms here any way a small improvement will add little difference. A dual core CPU running in 64 bit may add some noticeable improvement. Opions will vary and soon someone will post otherwise as all this is somewhat speculative. lol Good gaming!
 
I wasn't implying that 0.06ghz was going to help anything at all... just showing a little pride in eeking out a bit more while remaining stable... :D
 
Terra said:
You are saying that a PCI-E 7800GT PCI-E cards are 16 pixelpipes/20shaderpipes and the 7800GTX is 16 pixelpipes/24 shaderpipes?
Would you please take your trolling into a seperate thread please...

Oh...BTW...Facts just for you:
X1800XT = 16 pixelpipes/16shaders/8 vertex/16 ROPS
X1900XT = 16 pixelpipes/48 shaders/8 vertex/16 ROPS
6800GT = 16 pixelpipes/16 shaders/6 vertex/16 ROPS
7800GT = 20 pixelpipes/20 shaders/7 vetex/16 ROPS
7800GTX = 24 pixelpies/24 shaders/8 vertex/16 ROPS
7800GS(AGP) = 16 pixelpies/16 shaders/6 vertex/8 ROPS

The Gainward AGP 7800GS Bliss 512MB is 20 pixelpipes/20 shaders/7 vetex/16 ROPS...
As is is a full-flegded 7800GT PCI-E core on AGP via the NVIDIA brigde-chip.

Terra - Read any review, they will state the same...
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I know the GS = 7800 GT and GS+ = 7900 GT. There is nothing SPECIAL about these cards, they are nothing new, besides using AGP.

Thats what I have been saying. You and the other guy seem to not understand how newer video cards work. The 7800GS and GS+ Bliss use only 16 of the 20/24 pipes for output pixel fill rate ...do you understand what this means? In order to FULLY utilize the 20/24 as pixel pipes, ROPs would have to = 20/24. They dont, they are both 16.

This is why a 6800 Ultra (16 pixel pipes/16 ROPs) at 450mhz core has the EXACT same PIXEL Fillrate as 7800 GS+ 450mhz core.........which is 7.2 Billion Pixels/sec. If the GS+ had 24 REAL and USABLE pixel pipelines, it would also need to have 24 ROPs, and only then its PIXEL fill rate would be 10.8 Billion Pixels/sec. So its is WRONG to call these cards 20/24 pixel pipes cards when ONLY 16 of those pipes can be USED for pixel output. I hope this isn't too hard for you guys to undserstand. (although it probably will be for AMD Fan)
 
LawGiver said:
I know the GS = 7800 GT and GS+ = 7900 GT. There is nothing SPECIAL about these cards, they are nothing new, besides using AGP.

Thats what I have been saying. You and the other guy seem to not understand how newer video cards work. The 7800GS and GS+ Bliss use only 16 of the 20/24 pipes for output pixel fill rate ...do you understand what this means? In order to FULLY utilize the 20/24 as pixel pipes, ROPs would have to = 20/24. They dont, they are both 16.

This is why a 6800 Ultra (16 pixel pipes/16 ROPs) at 450mhz core has the EXACT same PIXEL Fillrate as 7800 GS+ 450mhz core.........which is 7.2 Billion Pixels/sec. If the GS+ had 24 REAL and USABLE pixel pipelines, it would also need to have 24 ROPs, and only then its PIXEL fill rate would be 10.8 Billion Pixels/sec. So its is WRONG to call these cards 20/24 pixel pipes cards when ONLY 16 of those pipes can be USED for pixel output. I hope this isn't too hard for you guys to undserstand. (although it probably will be for AMD Fan)
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Since you don't understand it that easy way, here's the hard way:
1. I have reported your post, you are wreacking a good therad, please stop..
2. Here is a brand new thread, where you are free to dribble over the topic you really like:
Pixel-, Shader-, vertex and ROP-pipe numbers?

Terra - Still happy with his 7800GT on AGP :p
 
Sorry to say I have to leave this thread behind me. Check my sig for the reason why...

Anyhow, looks like I'll be getting a full fledged 7900 w/512mb, so good luck to all you AGP/Gainward Bliss owners. It was nice toying with the idea, and it would have been really cool to have one. Lucky part for me is that two hours before the CPU croaked I had the form all filled out to but a 7800 GS+ at overclockers.uk. I decided to hold off for the weekend... Man, placing the order would have really ticked me off...

Have fun with those cards. ;)
 
where can one of these gainward cards be had on the net?
No i haven't read the whole thread yet...not enough time :(
 
Anyone know any other AGP cards coming out soon in the Nvidia 7900 series? Or is Gainward the best we got out there for good? I'll keep my fingers crossed for a BFG version. PLLLLEEEAASSEEE!!!! :p
 
rvlawrence said:
Anyone know any other AGP cards coming out soon in the Nvidia 7900 series? Or is Gainward the best we got out there for good? I'll keep my fingers crossed for a BFG version. PLLLLEEEAASSEEE!!!! :p
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The only company (and that is OUTSIDE the US, take notice of that please!), that I know of that have done this and have any cards like this is Gainward.
eVGA, BFG ect...all follow NVIDIA's reference design.

Terra - I am still very [H]APPY over my card....the card everyone told would never come...7800GT for AGP ;)
 
Terra said:
The only company (and that is OUTSIDE the US, take notice of that please!), that I know of that have done this and have any cards like this is Gainward.
eVGA, BFG ect...all follow NVIDIA's reference design.

Terra - I am still very [H]APPY over my card....the card everyone told would never come...7800GT for AGP ;)
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Last year I moved to socket 754, then to PCI-E and 939 when something bad happened to my 754 motherboard.

I should have just gotten a new AGP 754 board and stayed with 754 until now and picked up one of these cards instead of jumping to 939 and PCI-E. I feel dumb now. Sigh, I would have saved so much money.

I am happy for you though :)
 
I have an AMD 64 3700 socket 754, 3 gigs of memory. Is this enough for to run the gainward card without fear of bottlenecking it? I don't want to put this card into my machine and then have it not be able to perform well on all of the newest games. Any thoughts on this? What would make it bottleneck when running a new game like Prey?
 
You should be fine. I run mine with alot less.


rvlawrence said:
I have an AMD 64 3700 socket 754, 3 gigs of memory. Is this enough for to run the gainward card without fear of bottlenecking it? I don't want to put this card into my machine and then have it not be able to perform well on all of the newest games. Any thoughts on this? What would make it bottleneck when running a new game like Prey?
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Steven301 said:
Quick post for benchmarks.
Quake 4 : Geforce 6800GT 2214 frames 39.7 seconds 55.8 fps
Geforce 7800GS+ 2214 frames 18.3 seconds 121.1fps
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Wow :eek:
+100% improvement...thumbs up :D


Tryed out Coolbits2 first go at overclocking the core went from 450 core to 512 and the memory went from 625/1.2 to 755/1.5, but it failed when running 3dmarks on last test, looked like the memory needs to breakin before going at it again.
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Perhaps it's the brigde chip(Core influence) that is giving you problems.
It's reported litmit is around 500MHz, from what I've heard.

Terra - Congrats on you card and your improvements...happy gaming! :)
 
As per RivaTuner v2.0 rc16. It shows having 20 pipes several times.

$ffffffffff NVIDIA specific display adapter information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0100000000 Graphics core : NV47/G70 revision A1 (20pp,7vp)
$0100000001 Hardwired ID : 0090 (ROM strapped to 0093)
$0100000002 Memory bus : 256-bit
$0100000003 Memory type : DDR3 (RAM configuration 05)
$0100000004 Memory amount : 524288KB
$0100000100 Core clock domain 0 : 275.400MHz
$0100000101 Core clock domain 1 : 275.400MHz
$0100000102 Core clock domain 2 : 275.400MHz
$0100000006 Memory clock : 627.750MHz (1255.500MHz effective)
$0100000007 Reference clock : 27.000MHz
$010000000c HSI bridge : BR02 PCIE-to-AGP
 
Hello
I couldn't find the 512MB version of 7800GS+ but I found the 256MB one...
Can you please tell me if it's worth it?
I couldn't find a more detailed description of it on google than this: http://www.gainward.de/media/files/Specifications/7944_Bliss7800GS+_AGP_DD_256MB_GS_datasheet.pdf

Is it the same as the 512MB one, excepting the memory size?

Are there any more detailed specs of their cards somewhere?
I can't find any mention of the number of pipelines in the specs from their website...
Just comparing the pdfs for the 2 version of 7800 GS+, only the memory size differ...

Thanks
 
I meant I couldn't find it at a local store... here in Romania we have a long way to go until I would buy one online...
 
First the good. The cards are only available in Europe. Now the bad only a limited number of them have ben made so only a few countries have them. England,Germany,Sweden and I am not sure Finland. A day trip may be in order for you? Good luck and happy gaming. PS We can tell you which stores ect.
Hey look what I found? Do these stores sound familiar?

http://www.itdirect.ro/produs.php?342:661 Try this first. lol Looks good to me?

Romania

S.C. it direct S.R.L.
Bucuresti

Phone: +40 213205462
E-mail: sales (a) itdirect.ro
Website: www.itdirect.ro

Distributor: Yes
E-Tailer: No
Reseller: No
System Integrator: No Company Profile for S.C. it direct S.R.L.
Main distributor for GAINWARD graphics boards.

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SC Rompers Grup SRL
Bucharest

Phone: +40 318059010
E-mail: office (a) rompers.ro
Website: www.rompers.ro

Distributor: No
E-Tailer: No
Reseller: No
System Integrator: No Company Profile for SC Rompers Grup SRL
Importer and distributor of IT products.
 
Thanks... itdirect.ro seems to have it... the problem is it costs an extra 45E :(... and I'm at the limit of my budget...
All I really wanted to know if the 7800GS+ with 256MB is the same thing as the 512MB version, just with less memory...
 
Let me give you some information:
There are 3 types of 7800GS:


Gainward 7685-BLISS 7800GS 256MB TV-DVI AGP
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS
Chip: 7800GT
Memory capacity: 256MB 1,6ns DDR
Clockspeed Core: 375MHZ
Clockspeed Mem: 1200MHZ
Pipes: 20
Gainwards barcode: 471846200-7685






Gainward 7739-BLISS 7800GS Silent 512MB
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS AGP 512MB
Chip: 7800GT
Memory capacity: 512MB 1,4ns GDDR3
Clockspeed Core: 425MHZ
Clockspeed Mem: 1200MHZ
Pipes: 20
Gainwards barcode: 47846200-7739






Gainward 7876-BLISS 7800GS Silent 512MB GS+
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS GoldenSample AGP 512MB
Chip: 7800GT
Core: 450MHZ
Mem: 1250MHZ
Pipes: 24
Gainwards barcode: 471846200-7876
 
Gainward 7876-BLISS 7800GS Silent 512MB GS+
Gainward GeForce BLISS 7800GS GoldenSample AGP 512MB
Chip: 7800GT
Core: 450MHZ
Mem: 1250MHZ
Pipes: 24
Gainwards barcode: 471846200-7876
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anyone know if this will ever make its way to the US? I understand its not worth the money, money isn't an issue with me, i already have a couple PCIe systems set up but i would like to keep my AGP system going as long as i can, since its doing a damn good job of playing my older games just fine and i sorta want to keep it that way

any info on it would be good, thanks!
 
Trimlock said:
anyone know if this will ever make its way to the US? I understand its not worth the money, money isn't an issue with me, i already have a couple PCIe systems set up but i would like to keep my AGP system going as long as i can, since its doing a damn good job of playing my older games just fine and i sorta want to keep it that way

any info on it would be good, thanks!
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Try here Do you guys even read this thread at all? Besides the last post? lol


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_AGP_411.html
 
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