How To Power Down Windows 8

TBH, I think it was a mistake to have the Shutdown button right there on the Start menu in Windows 7 (at least in the default configuration). I mean, imagine you're about to finish a large download after many hours, an HD video file conversion job, or a multi-page report that hasn't been saved yet. It's just too easy to accidentally hit that button instead of the ridiculously tiny arrow next to it if you wanted to lock your machine (yes, I know that Winkey+L exists and Ctrl+alt+del, but we're talking about computer novices here).

I'm not defending Windows 8 and its buried power settings, but I do think MS had it right with XP and it's shutdown panel. Maybe they need to bring that back in Windows 8.
 
Seconded.
Thirded.

What's even worse is that Windows Server 8 Beta has the metro desktop as well. Really, Microsoft? On a server?

I've already decided to stay well away from Windows 8, based on what I've seen in the developer preview and now the consumer version... I'll be sticking to Windows 7 for life if this is the direction they're going in.

There's also no way in hell I'll be using Server 8, and I'll be recommending to all of my clients and customers that they stay away from it too, unless they give us the proper interface back.

A tablet OS has no place on my desktop PC, and it has no place in the same universe as a server.
 
....well I like the FBI surveillance App in the desktop picture...you have full bars Steve :D ....in the mean time I'm going to instal the beta tomorrow...but you folks are scaring me.... :p
 
Yeah I can't wait to have a 30" touchscreen to use the metro UI, then I'll have oil marks all over it from my fingers just like every phone user out there.

Thankfully you can disable the abhorrent metro start UI, but yeah, keep this fisher price crap off of real computers.
 
i dont know why MS has such a hard-on for getting rid of the basic win95 interface, every single OS since win98 they have been trying something to get rid of the win95 interface


MS: leave it alone, we like the win95 interface. Every OS you bring out makes more settings that I have to reverse or hacks i need to install.
 
these companies been have expecting the death of the PC you 20 years, and still just dont get it, the PC is going to stick around for a long time

it will survive tablets, phones, ipods, touch screen, laptops, ps3, ps4, xbox. just like a said 15-20 years ago, x86 varients will be hear forever so will the PC.

MS is just getting greedy again thinking this is their chance to get and app store that goes main stream.
 
I used to hate the metro interface, but then I started making apps for it and now I think it's pretty decent. Its success or failure rests solely with the apps people build for it, IMO. Sure, you can turn it off, but you won't get to use any of the Metro apps. If you've tried it and don't like it, try making a simple app (you just need to know basic HTML and a little Javascript). In terms of raw utility, I'm finding it rivals my Arch Linux desktop, and it's a hell of a lot easier to create Metro apps than any sort of native desktop app for Linux or Mac. If Microsoft pulls it off, it'll be as easy to build Metro apps as it is to make a theme for your blog, and I think that's going to make a huge difference in terms of how people use the environment to get things done. If you use Metro without any custom apps, you're only getting a very small piece of the pie.
 
Great if you haven't got a clue what a pc is for. Windows For Dummies! NO book needed!
 
Yeah I can't wait to have a 30" touchscreen to use the metro UI, then I'll have oil marks all over it from my fingers just like every phone user out there.

Thankfully you can disable the abhorrent metro start UI, but yeah, keep this fisher price crap off of real computers.
I didn't think it could be disabled in the consumer preview? The registry key change does not work any more.
 
You could disable it in the developer version, but as far as I'm aware it can't be done in the consumer version.
 
Well I'm sure Microsoft would have had difficult improving on windows 7 enough to justify a new release rather than an update. Windows 7 is pretty bad ass.

So they went in a new direction to see if it works its a pretty save bet for Microsoft because their worst case scenario is people moving back to windows 7.

Also people who are early adopters of technology (aka nerds) don't seem to be the target market. Who knows maybe all the none technical users (aka mac tards) will love this new design.
 
Yeah, just checked... MS deliberately removed the ability to disable it in the consumer version.
 
This is very typical MS -- only every OTHER os is decent -- W95, but not W98, WXP but not WVista, W7 but not W8

Win98 wasn't bad, it was ME that really caused me serious problems. Still, this does look like its going to be the new ME/Vista MS OS.
 
Oddly enough - no. For Windows 8 the standard pressing the power button did not initiate a shut down. Might need to find your way to the old control panel, go into power options and manually configure it to, but a key program for me crashed immediately upon trying to load (even with a mixture of compatibility setting attempts) so I just went back to Windows 7 rather than start configuring Windows 8 the way I'd like it only to have to use Windows 7 anyway.

Yeah, I do believe you have to go into the power options to set that behaviour.

I make sure to do that for all my PCs because I don't always have the keyboard/mouse in the same room as the PC. (so I need to manually turn them off without a hard power off.)

Pressing the power button works great, even if you have left a few windows open.
 
**likes XP**

Windows + u + enter

Maybe up/down arrows to restart or hibernate

I'm assuming sleep is similarly obscure? With Win 7 I only shut down/restart if I need to complete updates. Normally I just put my desktop PC to sleep.
 
Shutting computers down was so windows 7.

I don't believe for a second Windows 8 will be stable enough not to need frequent reboots.

It's just easier to shut the computer down when you are not using it, that way you don't have to get pissed off, and restart it when it messes up :p
 
Here's my question: how hard will it be to find the Screen Saver settings? The fact that you have to *search* for it in Win7 does not bode well.

/hugs his copy of XP...
//runs Win7 at work with the Classic theme
 
At least Apple's "iOS on the desktop" bullshit interface is completely optional.

I want my phone to be more like my computer, not my computer to be more like my phone.

I sincerely hope this whole "consumer web device" trend dies a horrible death. It's dumbing shit down WAY too much and doing nothing but pissing me off.
 
Here's my question: how hard will it be to find the Screen Saver settings? The fact that you have to *search* for it in Win7 does not bode well.

You don't right click on the desktop and change it there like everyone else? :rolleyes:

/hugs his copy of XP...

Most moronic thing you can possibly do. XP is really just one large turd of a unstable security hole. Running it means you just don't care about malware/viruses/privacy/identity theft/etc. and really just shows you are a huge moron.

These days it is really foolish to run anything pre Vista (or to disable UAC or some other boneheaded stupid move)

//runs Win7 at work with the Classic theme

Nothing wrong with that. I do that on a few machines.
 
Hay guyz:

No one is forcing you to buy Windows 8

Exactly.

By the time Windows discontinues support and security patches for Windows 7 (01/13/2015) they will have hopefully realized the error in their ways and have scaled back th eMetro interface do we can all be happy in going with Windows 9.

Sort of like what they did with the Ribbon in Office 2007 and improved it for 2010.
 
Zarathustra[H];1038448890 said:
Most moronic thing you can possibly do. XP is really just one large turd of a unstable security hole. Running it means you just don't care about malware/viruses/privacy/identity theft/etc. and really just shows you are a huge moron.

-Don't install just anything out of the blue (this type of problem is OS irrelevant)
-Get behind a firewall (almost everyone is thanks to home routers)
-Use Firefox + NoScript
-Get a few key updates, like the HCP update
-Remove key infection vectors by uninstalling stuff like Adobe Reader (use Foxit), Java, Quicktime


It's really not that hard to get a decently secure XP box. Most malware these days are the "exploit your browser or its plugins to auto-install stuff" type, aka drive-by downloads. NoScript defeats almost all of them itself.

Then again you're more than likely speaking of the people who don't care at all about the security of their computer and are running XP. In that sense I agree I guess, XP is a bad decision for grandmas computer.
 
Supposedly you can grab the top edge and pull it down to the bottom edge. Whether this closes the app I don't know: there isn't any kind of visual cue to indicate that's what actually happens.

Thanks. You grab it and drag it to the bottom, no edge required.
 
Zarathustra[H];1038448862 said:
I don't believe for a second Windows 8 will be stable enough not to need frequent reboots.

It's just easier to shut the computer down when you are not using it, that way you don't have to get pissed off, and restart it when it messes up :p

I've got Windows installed on 4 different devices since Wednesday. Even at this stage I'd say you're wrong. Sinofsky is very much a quality freak. Windows 8 will be as stable or more than Windows 7. So far the Windows 8 CP is proving to me to be more stable in what I've tested than the Windows 7 Beta. Sure it's not perfect and I'm having some driver issues for my LTE modem but other than that it's perfectly stable on 4 very different systems and seems to be good enough for 24x7 operation.
 
I've got Windows installed on 4 different devices since Wednesday. Even at this stage I'd say you're wrong. Sinofsky is very much a quality freak. Windows 8 will be as stable or more than Windows 7. So far the Windows 8 CP is proving to me to be more stable in what I've tested than the Windows 7 Beta. Sure it's not perfect and I'm having some driver issues for my LTE modem but other than that it's perfectly stable on 4 very different systems and seems to be good enough for 24x7 operation.

It wasn't a dig at Windows 8 per se. I have yet to use a Windows operating system, ANY windows operating system I'd say was good for uptimes longer than a handful of days.

Because of this I'ts just easier to shut it down every day, so you never have an uptime longer than a day.
 
Zarathustra[H];1038449045 said:
It wasn't a dig at Windows 8 per se. I have yet to use a Windows operating system, ANY windows operating system I'd say was good for uptimes longer than a handful of days.

Because of this I'ts just easier to shut it down every day, so you never have an uptime longer than a day.

You're doing something terribly wrong. Only time I ever shut down and restart is patch Tuesday.
 
Change that is of no benefit is idiocy, and that is exactly what Win8 is, an OS for idiots.
 
Supposedly you can grab the top edge and pull it down to the bottom edge. Whether this closes the app I don't know: there isn't any kind of visual cue to indicate that's what actually happens.

Open task manager and you will see if it actually closes or not. I used Win8 for about 15 minutes at a friends place and when I closed IE in Win8 I brought up taskmanger and could see the IE process was still running. Right then and there I decided I will not be buying Win8.
 
Zarathustra[H];1038448890 said:
Most moronic thing you can possibly do. XP is really just one large turd of a unstable security hole.

But, but, but...Microsoft told me it was a secure OS. Are you saying they were lying??? OMG, I feel violated.
 
Yes, MS is, two generations of this forced upon you and no more support for win7.


i would not worry about this. nobody making serious applications is going to force you to run win 8, just as nobody forced you to run vista to run their software.

MS is going to fail to force this on to people, just like every other attempt to change the desktop they failed.

They thought directx10 would force people like us to windows vista, what makes them think this will force use to do anything.
 
Making the desktop like the phone OS? isn't that what people are clamoring for a la the iOS? what Apple is doing can't be wrong can it?

iOS != MacOS

Microsoft's the only one who's trying to unify platforms. Not Apple, not Linux and not Google.
 
iOS != MacOS

Microsoft's the only one who's trying to unify platforms. Not Apple, not Linux and not Google.

Well, Ubuntu seems to be trying to with the Unity interface, which seems designed for touch screen appliances.
 
I had to laugh when I saw this article because I had the same problem when I first installed the Windows 8 preview. It took me at least 5 minutes of digging around to find the power button (it is in the settings menu).

Your wireless network ID made me laugh. If it is strong enough for the neighbors to detect it in their wireless networks available, I bet it'd make them look out their windows.
 
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