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How does my loop fare?

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Shift85

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I've been a member on the [H] forums for 3 years now and I haven't posted in about 2.7 of them, happy to say my first venture back is in the water cooling section with you guys (and girls {TN I fear your AC loving wrath}). First I'll post the system I will be buying within the next week.

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DQ6 mobo
EVGA 8800GTX only 1 unfortunately (for now >D)
C2D E6600
Patriot eXtreme Performance PC2 8500 2gigs
WD Raptor X
Corsair 620w PSU (thought about a PCP&C 750w Quad)
Creative X-Fi


I'm hoping to get the 6600 to at least 3.5ghz stable and from the looks of those that already have them and are OC'ing that wont be a problem. Also, I'd like to OC the 8800gtx and I cant decide which would be best for performance system-wide, full cover block or gpu with some ram sinks?

This is what I've come up with to date for the loop, keep in mind this is sitting in a Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 with some new fans(unless someone would suggest a purty and at least moderately comfortable/functional case for such a setup):

Swiftech Apogee GT/GTX (I cant decide between the two :rolleyes: )
Swiftech MCP655 (as far as I can tell this is the best pump for my needs for this loop, the Iwaka is I THINK unnecessary and ugly as all hell)
Swiftech MCW60 OR EK full cover block
Swiftech MCW30 on NB chipset
Thermochill 120.2 rad (is there anything better for the size or is this really the primo stuff here?)
Masterkleer 1/2"
AS5 or some Ceramique, whatever I get my hands on first

I would like some UV reactive coolant, some form of red is preferable but I've been doing A LOT of reading on these forums and apparently for performance it's best to stick with water and af 4:1? What kind of cooling would I give up to run something that I can show off and who offers a good solution as I read that Fluid XP isn't a good choice?)

One last thing, if I did get the Apogee GTX, would bowing do any good if I end up lapping the hell out of my cpu? I'm getting the highest grade sand paper I have patience for as I'm going to have the cpu the same time I get my loop set up so I'll have a day or two to leak test and prepare everything else.

Any suggestions, advice or part swaps are very appreciated and I know I picked a lot of Swiftech parts but unless I'm forgetting something (which is possible its 1 a.m. here and I've had a few beers) I'm basing it off of cost/performance, which by the way I am willing to spend a large chunk o' money on assuming its buying me worthy cooling power. I just don't like the idea of a 120.3 rad or multi rads in my loop just yet, this w/c noob needs pretend to be humble about this at first at any rate.
 
Shift85 said:
I've been a member on the [H] forums for 3 years now and I haven't posted in about 2.7 of them, happy to say my first venture back is in the water cooling section with you guys (and girls {TN I fear your AC loving wrath}). First I'll post the system I will be buying within the next week.

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DQ6 mobo
EVGA 8800GTX only 1 unfortunately (for now >D)
C2D E6600
Patriot eXtreme Performance PC2 8500 2gigs
WD Raptor X
Corsair 620w PSU (thought about a PCP&C 750w Quad)
Creative X-Fi


I'm hoping to get the 6600 to at least 3.5ghz stable and from the looks of those that already have them and are OC'ing that wont be a problem. Also, I'd like to OC the 8800gtx and I cant decide which would be best for performance system-wide, full cover block or gpu with some ram sinks?
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This really depends, but the short answer is, either way will work. I would suggest a GPU only block if you're running a single loop as the added heat from the ram/vregs might increase your temps on the other parts of your loop.

This is what I've come up with to date for the loop, keep in mind this is sitting in a Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 with some new fans(unless someone would suggest a purty and at least moderately comfortable/functional case for such a setup):

Swiftech Apogee GT/GTX (I cant decide between the two :rolleyes: )
Swiftech MCP655 (as far as I can tell this is the best pump for my needs for this loop, the Iwaka is I THINK unnecessary and ugly as all hell)
Swiftech MCW60 OR EK full cover block
Swiftech MCW30 on NB chipset
Thermochill 120.2 rad (is there anything better for the size or is this really the primo stuff here?)
Masterkleer 1/2"
AS5 or some Ceramique, whatever I get my hands on first
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From a price/performance standpoint and my own personal aversion to anything that contains copper, I'd recommend the GT. I have both blocks. The GTX does beat out the GT and is much more capable than the GT when it comes to quads. However, since you're not running a quad, nor are you experienced with bowing waterblocks, I'd have to lean in favor of the GT since you stated you wanted price/performance. The Alu is for looks only in the GTX and is zinc/cobalt plated to prevent its contact with copper. I trust swiftech, but not enough to run a 100% distilled water loop like I always try for.

I would like some UV reactive coolant, some form of red is preferable but I've been doing A LOT of reading on these forums and apparently for performance it's best to stick with water and af 4:1? What kind of cooling would I give up to run something that I can show off and who offers a good solution as I read that Fluid XP isn't a good choice?)
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Distilled water with a few drops of PT nuke and a couple of drops of UV dye is all you'll need. Stay away from most aftermarket fluids as they're often as useful as snake oil.

One last thing, if I did get the Apogee GTX, would bowing do any good if I end up lapping the hell out of my cpu? I'm getting the highest grade sand paper I have patience for as I'm going to have the cpu the same time I get my loop set up so I'll have a day or two to leak test and prepare everything else.
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Bowing a GTX will result in significant improvement in temps. The D-Tek Fuzion is the best all around performing block, but it loses out to the GTX if the GTX is bowed, especially if its coupled with a quad core and a high powered pump. If you're IHS is convex, you're better off lapping it. If it's concave, I'd leave it to get a better contact with the bowed block.

Any suggestions, advice or part swaps are very appreciated and I know I picked a lot of Swiftech parts but unless I'm forgetting something (which is possible its 1 a.m. here and I've had a few beers) I'm basing it off of cost/performance, which by the way I am willing to spend a large chunk o' money on assuming its buying me worthy cooling power. I just don't like the idea of a 120.3 rad or multi rads in my loop just yet, this w/c noob needs pretend to be humble about this at first at any rate.
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You've picked some quality parts. My only suggestion would be to swap the D655 for the DDC-3.2 and use an aftermarket top.
 
So I take it that max head is more important than high discharge rate? I was trying to find a balance between flow and head but I suppose that a DDC with a decent flow and high head given with an aftermarket top like Petra's would be better for a loop like mine with multiple blocks. Would a DDC 3.2 with Petra's top be best for my application? Noise and price aren't really an issue, just space, I want everything internal except the rad if necessary and I even considered modding my case to throw the 120.2 in the top of the case. But right now I'd be happy with a running system in the first place lol.
 
I was hoping for more opinions on this setup, preferably those that don't agree with what I have picked out as thats my concern right now, making sure I'm not noobing it up too badly :p.
 
Shift85 said:
I was hoping for more opinions on this setup, preferably those that don't agree with what I have picked out as thats my concern right now, making sure I'm not noobing it up too badly :p.
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Did you want me to fix you up with a Euro solution?
 
If you can hold my hand and show me what would be better overall for this build, that would be great lol. I'm not lazy but my fiance has shown me that I can be pretty ignorant sometimes and I'd rather sound stupid than buy stupid :p. Like I mentioned before, I'm not very concerned with silence so much as I am cooling power, I want to get a solid OC out of my cpu/video and I don't the cooling solution to be giving me trouble before my board or chips do. Thanks for any advice in advance :)
 
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