how did you learn windows server( cheap)

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im going to be downloading the 180 day free trial but how exactly did you [H] users learn windows server $500 for the standard edition is kinda steap i wish it was cheaper, so im just going to get the trial and if i like it maybe save some money and get the Standard edition or SBS.
 
If your interested in learning the OS, possibly to install it for customers of yours in the future, look into the MS action Pack.

Every OS MS makes including all the server versions and office versions as well (Vista too) for $299 plus shipping.
its a great investment if you need to learn the stuff.
 
I went to a technet briefing and got a trial version of server 2003, ISA server and a bunch of others as swag.

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dbwillis said:
If your interested in learning the OS, possibly to install it for customers of yours in the future, look into the MS action Pack.

Every OS MS makes including all the server versions and office versions as well (Vista too) for $299 plus shipping.
its a great investment if you need to learn the stuff.
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I'll second that. The Action Pack comes with a ton of stuff to pick through and work with to learn. Unfortunately the only real place to learn anything is the workplace. Textbooks, classes, and seminars only go so far. It's the real world experience that gets you where you need to go.

Good luck.
 
AMD_Gamer said:
im going to be downloading the 180 day free trial but how exactly did you [H] users learn windows server $500 for the standard edition is kinda steap i wish it was cheaper, so im just going to get the trial and if i like it maybe save some money and get the Standard edition or SBS.
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At Work. Everday practice ;)
 
Well, learned NT4 in my dorm room while in college back in the mid to late 90's. So, I was self taught, learned enough to pass the NT4 MCSE without any formal training. Got a job, and learned what I did'nt know through that job. Windows 2000/2003 just followed suite although I don't work with either that much these days...
 
Digital-Vortex said:
Is the action pack full useable versions?
Or does it have time limits on them?
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Each piece of software from the Action Pack is a fully licensed version with no time limits though technically you need to renew the subscription each year for the licenses to be valid. However, if you don't renew none of the OSes or software will stop running.
 
dbwillis said:
and renewing at $300 each year isnt bad at all
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For all the software you get it's not bad at all. You get thousands of dollars worth of
software, LEGAL software, for a few hundred bucks.
 
Like PHUNBALL I learned NT4 in highschool-college, I did my highschool network, I got MSCE for NT4 shortly after that. What I would recommend too do is see if you have any body you know is a IT person or knows someone who you can shadow or intern with to learn with hands on experiance, and if you like it, take some classes get your A+, Network+ and then get a CCNA and MCSE. Then you would be all set, I would go to college to get a BofS in Computer Science or something like that.
 
I took MCSE classes and learned it using it daily,
Along with many other classes
 
the MS Action Pack looks like a badass deal,

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Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition
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Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
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Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003
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Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition
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System Builder OEM Software
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And many other valuable software licenses


now can anyone get this or do you need to work for a buisness of some kind, what if im just trying to learn about MS products like widnows server would they sell it to me?
 
No real way to do this cheaply. You need a test lab. While you could do a couple of vm sessions on a windows box, I wouldn't as you wouldn't really get the feel for it.

Learning ain't cheap, that's just how it goes.
 
XOR != OR said:
No real way to do this cheaply. You need a test lab. While you could do a couple of vm sessions on a windows box, I wouldn't as you wouldn't really get the feel for it.

Learning ain't cheap, that's just how it goes.
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well if i could get that $300 action pack thats very cheap for what you get
 
AMD_Gamer said:
the MS Action Pack looks like a badass deal,

#
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition
#
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
#
Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003
#
Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition
#
System Builder OEM Software
#
And many other valuable software licenses


now can anyone get this or do you need to work for a buisness of some kind, what if im just trying to learn about MS products like widnows server would they sell it to me?
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You have to be a reseller, a partner, or a developer to get into it. Our company is sort of partner, sort of developer but we've never been asked to prove it in any case. Of course I'd say we're mostly developer to that end. Not sure how you'd have to approach that one.
 
Oh yeah it rocks. You get pretty much every software product they make. Various server OS's, SQL, ISA, SBS, Exchange, Comm Live, CRM, Virtual Server, etc etc..as well as desktop OS's...WinXPp, Win64, etc, all the Office products, Visio, Maps, I mean...literally....pretty much everything they make.

You can't just walk in off the street and purchase it like a retail product at your local WorstBuy, but it only takes you a few minutes to sign up as a registered partner..and then you can get it.

You'll commonly get something like 1x license each of a server OS, and 10x licenses each of a desktop OS and product.

And without going through the bookcase in the other room to find the licensing agreement...that we all read and memorize.. :eek: :p ..I want to say the licenses are valid for 1 year. But usually most of us in this field keep our Action Pack subscription renewed each year...so every year we get that cool fat CD case full of new stuff..and licenses. And throughout the year you'll get supplemental CDs.

AMD_Gamer said:
the MS Action Pack looks like a badass deal,

#
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition
#
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
#
Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003
#
Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition
#
System Builder OEM Software
#
And many other valuable software licenses


now can anyone get this or do you need to work for a buisness of some kind, what if im just trying to learn about MS products like widnows server would they sell it to me?
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ok so i could just say that i own a company or that im a developer and they wont ask any questions? how should i got about doing this
 
If you have a beefy machine, or at least a box with alot of memory VM is going to be a logical way to go. You can create an image and have it ready to go in case you blow anything up. You have all your console sessions right there as well. Lots of advantages. Beside not having to create raid volumes or update BIOS it's the same "feel" as a physical box. It's windows.
 
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