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Hey, I've done this before and it never worked out. Now that I have some funds I can finally do what I want. A guy I know is selling me his like less than a year old 8800gts 320mb for like 40 bucks canadian, so now I need the rest of my parts.


1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
-I'll be using some PS, playing some CS. Boishock and any other games I like. Also basic stuff like browsing and I'll be listening to alot of music (I'm getting a pair of grado s60's or s80's)

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
-I'd like to keep it to a minimum, I don't really have a budget as I have the money it's just more of a do I need or want that sort of thing. Basically I want it like no more than 300-400

3) Where do you live?
-Canada, GTA

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. Please be very specific.
-I need a motherboard, cpu, ram, power supply, HD(s), CD-DVD writer, and a soundcard. I thinks thats it.

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
-The video card, I might pickup a p182 for like 100$, My 19" xerox lcd

6) Will you be overclocking?
-probably when I figure out how to..

7) What size monitor do you have or plan to have?
19" xerox lcd

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
in the next few weeks

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
Um, I don't think i'd need anything other than RAID if I plan on getting 2 HD's


Thanks in advance!
 
if you dont plan on playing and more games than the ones listed you will be fine with that gpu. If you foresee yourself getting anything newer then a 9600gt/4830/9800gt would be a better route. $40 for that card is ok, but that gpu is end of life and has a lot less stream processors than current gpu's. This will directly effect the ability to run AA and AF in games(eye candy). If you want a build based on purchasing directly from a local GTA shop I can help you with that. Are you an Intel or AMD guy?
 
hossdaddy said:
if you dont plan on playing and more games than the ones listed you will be fine with that gpu. If you foresee yourself getting anything newer then a 9600gt/4830/9800gt would be a better route. $40 for that card is ok, but that gpu is end of life and has a lot less stream processors than current gpu's. This will directly effect the ability to run AA and AF in games(eye candy). If you want a build based on purchasing directly from a local GTA shop I can help you with that. Are you an Intel or AMD guy?
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I think the extent of my gaming ventures will be bioshock and online FPS like cod 4 and stuff. I've always seen intel as better so I guess I like them more, but i'm open to either. I'd like to purchase locally used or new.

www.pcvonline.com

is close to a place I pass by alot. They used to have crazy cheap prices but some stuff still looks ok. I remember them have the corsair 750 watt ( I think) for like 100$
 
ok man I looked at that place you linked me too and they are more expensive for almost everything I looked at. Here is what I would get;

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 / 2.5 GHz $96.50
GIGABYTE SKT775 INT P43 $105
LG GH22NS30 SATA 22X/22X DVD-RW DRIVE $28.99
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE - 24-bit - 96 kHz - 100 dB SNR - 7.1 $34.99
ENERMAX EG465P-VE FMA $61.00
Western Digital 320GB WD3200AAKS CAVIAR SATA II 7200 RPM 16MB $58.50

note for this next one I am linking to a different store, but the deal and product is too good to pass up.
Mushkin EM2-6400 DDR2-800 4GB (2x2GB) $47.99

Total: $432.97 + taxes.

I did not quote a case because you were talking about an ANtecp182 case for $100 when your budget mentioned was $400, you cant build much worth while when you drop 25% of the budget on 1 of 7 pieces you need. Give me more info so we can work something out for you.
 
Don't look at the after-rebate prices, since they don't translate into instant savings at checkout. With your $400 budget, I'd look elsewhere, as the OCZ power supply alone would take up nearly a quarter of the budget amount. If anything, the money would be better spent on the motherboard, upon which you could plan your future upgrades. (To put it another way, it would be much easier to get a newer/better power supply than it would to find/choose a replacement motherboard.)

As for the Seagate 500GB hard drive... from a performance standpoint, you would be better off with either the single-platter 320GB hard drives or the dual-platter 640GB hard drives. But at a price-per-GB standpoint, the 500GB Seagate HDD is a pretty good choice.
 
Yeah, I can dish a bit more money since I'll get it back anyway. I read a review on the PS I posted and it looks ok. And because it's 600 watt, when I do upgrade GPU wise then it'll probably be able to handle it.

Am I wrong?

EDIT: Also I can raise the budget to accommodate a CORE 2 DUO cpu, and anything else that would greatly improve performance for the price.
 
I personally don't like mail-in rebates because they're not guaranteed. There's always the possibility that you do everything right on your end and the company still rejects, loses, or ignores the rebate.

The 600 watt ModXStream power supply has more than enough power for a 320MB 8800GTS... then again, so does the Antec Earthwatts EA430. You're not wrong in your thinking, but I still stand by my earlier assessment that your money would be better spent on a decent motherboard (which hossdaddy picked out for you) first.

You may want to consider other retailers as well. Some the parts that I had in mind for you were out of stock at PCV Online.
 
So do you mean I should go with a different from the one hossdaddy picked? or is there anything much better for a bit more?

so as of now it looks like I'm gonna get..

Some sort of C2D
GIGABYTE SKT775 INT P43 $105
LG GH22NS30 SATA 22X/22X DVD-RW DRIVE $28.99
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE - 24-bit - 96 kHz - 100 dB SNR - 7.1 $34.99
some sort of powersupply (I really don't want to cheapen out here as I don't want this system to die)
500GB seagate


now I don't want to go over 500$ without taxes...
 
I wasn't telling you to not go with hossdaddy's pick; the GA-EP43-DS3L is one of the boards that I recommend often here. You can omit the sound card, as onboard sound is good enough for most users.

For a power supply, I recommend getting something that with at least 450 watts of power, at least 35A combined in the 12V rails, active PFC, and 80 Plus certification. Though I personally don't care for it, the OCZ ModXStream Pro that you linked to earlier would meet those requirements.

I have a few more questions for you to answer:

- Are you willing to shop elsewhere (like NewEgg.ca or Infonec)?
- Which resolution is your monitor using?
- Besides CS and Bioshock, are there any games that you plan on playing?
 
Yeah, I guess enremax is a better brand. Might go with a antec 900 but i'll look into that 300. I don't might buying from anywhere else, but I don't have a credit card so I'll need to use paypal or some other form of payment.

edit: oh yeah as for games, I probably play some online shooters like cod4 or half life 2 online. As for res I like 1024×768
 
thats a solid cpu, I put an e7200 in my buddys machine and it runs great. They also overclock realy well.
But @ $145 they are a bit high for what u get.

Many people are having great luck with this cpu,
INtel e5200 @ 2.5g $96.50
apparently it overclocks like a beast.
 
hmm probably not in a gaming application. What do you think tiraides?

I just found this review of both vs similar cpu's. It looks like both are solid like I thought ;)
 
The E7300 gets a slight edge -- at stock speeds -- on resource-intensive programs. It's also a reportedly better overclocker than the E5200. Gaming's a push, as most games (beyond a 1280x1024 resolution) depend more on the video card than the processor. But it's all a moot point if you can't really afford the E7300 -- with your budget, you may be better off sticking with the E5200.
 
Well, I did up the budget for the core 2 duo, so I guess I'll go ahead with it. I just don't really want to replace my cpu very soon along with my video card later on. I'll probably be using the 8800gts in the beginging and try to flip it online and add a bit on top of that to get the 9600gt, but that will probably not happen for etleast a month.
 
ok so far I have a Q6600 (got it really cheap) a ps is pending, and i'm reading to order everything else. The only thing i'm not sure about is the motherboard. Will this be a decent motherboard for OC and gaming?
 
So any other recommendations for a MB? I really want to decide for sure before I get one. The motherboard budget is no more than 150$, same rules apply as the other parts. Anyone have any ideas?
 
These are American prices but you should be able to find them on Canadian sites:
Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L Intel P43 Motherboard - $80
MSI Neo3-F Intel P43 Motherboard - $85
MSI P45 Neo3-FR Intel P45 Motherboard - $110
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 Motherboard - $120
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R Intel P45 Motherboard - $120
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Intel P45 Motherboard - $135
DFI Lanparty DK X38-T2R Intel X38 Motherboard - $150
Asus P5E Deluxe Intel X48 Motherboard - $220
DFI Lanparty DK X48-T2R Intel X48 Motherboard - $220
Gigabyte GA-EX48-DS4 Intel X48 Motherboard - $225

Just to help you out: All of these motherboards have PCI-E 2.0 which may be useful for future GPU upgrades. If you don't need RAID, more than 6 SATA ports and only need semi-decent overclocking, check out the DS3L. If you need 8 SATA ports, RAID, 4 PCI slots, and legacy ports, then get the Neo3-Fr. If you need 8 SATA ports but want RAID, firewire, a second gigabit port, support for 16GB of RAM, optional eSATA, and excellent overclocks, then get the UD3R. If you like the UD3R but want a second PCI-E x16 slot and x8/x8 Crossfire support, then get the UD3P. If you like the UD3P but want an onboard pre-installed fast booting Linux setup and don't need a second gigabit port, then get the Asus P5Q Pro. If you want a motherboard with excellent overclocking capabilities above all else (feature wise), go with the UD3P. If you want Crossfire with full x16/x16 bandwidth, get the Lanparty DK X38. If you have cash to burn, need x16/x16 Crossfire, and don't give a absolute damn about getting the most value for your money, get the Asus, DFI, or Gigabyte X48 motherboards. Do note that the Asus website can be slow sometimes.
 
Thanks for the reply, I was reading about these in the MB section. But it's good to know for sure. The prices on the EP45's are pretty bad for canadians. I won't be going for a world overclocking record so I think i'll go for the cheaper first one you listed.....maybey
 
I know but he seems to like having choices as we all do! :) I agree the gigabyte p43 is the way to go. I have the p45 version and love it.
 
Thanks everyone your inputs. I called infonec for them to order in the MB, should pick it up in a few days. Q6600 should be here soon along with some grado s80's. I ordered everything else except the PS and GPU from Canada computers, but I'm have problems with a bank transfer payment so that should be ordered soon


Thanks again everyone:D
 
Ok, so far I've picked up a MB and a power supply (thanks hossdaddy) the Canada computers shipment will come in Tom or wed. Now all I need is a new cpu because I was scammed for a Q6600 (147$ canadian) hopefully if I get that money back it'll go to a new GPU (Topic in the troll section). Probably gonna pick up a E7400 from infonec. Pics when everything comes in.
 
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