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Help with a gaming mouse

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krueL

Limp Gawd
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I am in the market for an awsome gaming mouse. I have a logitech mx 500. It has been a very good mouse, but it has been put through hell. It is time to get a new one when the feet are coming off the bottom of it and you spill koolaid in it a few times and end up soaking it in alcohol to clean it. It still works though. Anyway I am looking at some Razor mice. I don't know if these are better than getting a new mx 500 or what. Please someone help with my decision. If anyone knows of other gaming mice that are good. Please post them. Thank you guys for all of your past help.

Kruel
 
mx500 is a good gaming mouse, i still use it.

If u want a better mouse, get the mx510 or the mx1000.
 
I like the MX510 personally. I will only get a MX1000 type mouse if they release a wired version.
 
MX510 or MX1000. To me these are the only two choices. IMO Razor is just rolling of the nostalgic value of their name.
 
S1nF1xx said:
MX510 or MX1000. To me these are the only two choices. IMO Razor is just rolling of the nostalgic value of their name.
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Read my post and you'll see the MX1000 is not really that great of an option.
 
I have no problems with my mx1000. It just depends on your gaming style. If you pick a mouse up and down while gaming then it's not for you. On my 20in widescreen montor this mouse is far superior compared to the mx700. Small intricate movements are much easier to handle with the mx1000. GL on picking a mouse that's right for you. Everyone is different from the way they hold a mouse to the way they use it. If you are simply looking for suggestions on a better mouse then the MX510 is a good gaming mouse and can be had for around $30. I can't recommend any Razor mice since I have never used any.


Neo
 
I just recently bought the Razer Diamondback mouse and it really is the best mouse out there. Nothing even comes close to it in accuracy. And yes i have used an MX510 and MX1000. Both of which are extremely accurate. MX1000 i really liked the feel of. The only reason i did not buy it is because i am a low sensitivity gamer. I pick up my mouse ALOT. But for high sensitivity gamer who doesnt pick up thier mouse, MX1000 might not be that bad of a choice.
 
i guess nobody likes microsoft (which i use)

Damn Wireless Intellimouse Explorer maybe your keeping me from playing as well as i can!

ill have to look into that MX700
 
I really wanted one of those too, now I don't know what's a good wireless mouse. Does anyone know of a good solution at about the 50$ range?

-Rikus
 
My dad bought be a mx510 ( blue ) for x-mas and this thing pwns! I was using a wired exlporer up till now, and my cs scores went from 50/50 to 75/25 - 90/10... Gotta love 52 and 0 on scoutzz knifes...
 
i just have to laugh at the ppl who complain about the mx1000 and how it has issues "when i pick it up off my mouse pad"..thats not the mouses fault thats yours!...for the love of gawd whats the deal with that(break the old ball mouse habbit)...just read the specs on the mouse..and some reviews...its the most advance mouse on the market....period! the 500 and 700 are great as well..dont get me wrong...(i have both of em) and while the run good..they r not even close in my opinion to the 1000
 
Can't say I agree. I used the MX1000 before I got the Diamondback and there's no comparison. The MX1000 is alright, but for gaming the MX510 and Diamondback are much more precise and smooth.
 
kick@ss said:
Read my post and you'll see the MX1000 is not really that great of an option.
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For every complaint I see for it, I see 10 more positive reviews.

Aren't opinions wonderful? :)
 
[Retaliation] said:
i just have to laugh at the ppl who complain about the mx1000 and how it has issues "when i pick it up off my mouse pad"..thats not the mouses fault thats yours!...for the love of gawd whats the deal with that(break the old ball mouse habbit)...
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It is the only mouse I have ever come across that has this problem. It's a problem with the mouse. Picking up the mouse and moving it is a common action, Logitech were sloppy in not compensating for it.

And how is it an old ball mouse habit? From one edge of my mouse pad to the other I get half way across my screens... What am I meant to do? Move the mouse down the edge of the table?
 
I have never had a single problem gaming with my MX1000, I think it is by far and away the best gaming mouse. I don't ever see any lag even while picking the mouse up and setting it down.
 
^^

I agree. I've got the MX1000 and it's the best mouse I've ever owned. My vote goes towards the MX1000.
 
It seems like a showdown between the MX 1000 and the Razor Diamondback. The question is which device costs less / which has better value?
 
Well I do know that a Razer doesn't like being dropped off of a table onto concrete...Right Rick? ;)
 
Isaacav2 said:
It seems like a showdown between the MX 1000 and the Razor Diamondback. The question is which device costs less / which has better value?
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The MX510 can't be ruled out. It is an awesome mouse, and it's resonably priced too.
 
The MX510 (Wired) and the MX1000 (The ONLY wireless choice in my opinion).

I used a MX500 for along time and really liked it. The only thing better is the MX1000.

I hated the original Razer. It was too large and was built poorly. It's ergonomics blew. I NEVER understood why people loved it so much. It was a piece of shit. It's right up there with $10 off brand mice. I can't imagine the new one has improved that much.
 
MX510 or the MX1000 should do nicely. As for the MX1000 haters, I notice most of the complaints stem from lifting the mouse up off the pad. My question to you is, why are you lifting the mouse? That's a sign of a too-low sensitivity setting, not a bad mouse.
 
Terpfen said:
MX510 or the MX1000 should do nicely. As for the MX1000 haters, I notice most of the complaints stem from lifting the mouse up off the pad. My question to you is, why are you lifting the mouse? That's a sign of a too-low sensitivity setting, not a bad mouse.
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Bullshit it's a sign of too-low sensitivity. You should be able to have the sensitivity at whatever is comfortable to you. What happens when you have multiple monitors and small mouse space?

It's a flaw in the mouse, and it's sloppy on the part of Logitech that they can't deal with it. It doesn't affect everyone, but it affects enough for it to be a significant proportion of the users.
 
where do you guys get those razors at?

ahh nvm i'll just froogle or pricewatch it.... :rolleyes: stupid me
 
ewwwww yuck.... not the look for me... i want a cleaner look hehhe
 
I just did that trick with my mx1000 i just got, it works fine, it doesnt stop responding it works like it should, i gave my brother my mx 500.
 
Mice and keyboards are a personal preference and agreement and consensus among multiple people over it aren't likely. Just grab what feels good to you. I am always trying new mice and keyboards to see if I like them.

So far nothing's replaced my old school mechanical keyboards. I like the feel the best. With my mouse, I loved the MX500 when I used it. The MX510 is just a small improvement.

The MX1000 is the first really kick ass wireless mouse. But if you have limited mouse space and you have a habbit of picking up your mouse alot you may find it won't fit your needs. If you've got a supermat like I do or another large mousepad and you don't pick up your mouse alot, you should really give it a try. Going to an MX500, MX510 or MX700/900 feels awkward to me now. The ergonomics were just a huge improvment. They fixed awkward button placement and the thumbgroove is just great. Also they shortened the mouse. I felt that the MX500 series was a little long.
 
dgb said:
It is the only mouse I have ever come across that has this problem. It's a problem with the mouse. Picking up the mouse and moving it is a common action, Logitech were sloppy in not compensating for it.

And how is it an old ball mouse habit? From one edge of my mouse pad to the other I get half way across my screens... What am I meant to do? Move the mouse down the edge of the table?
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well..change your sensitivity then...i dont pick my mouse up ever...it stays in the middle of my radpatz like its suppose too
 
i watched those videos showing what this whole fuss is about, and wow, that mouse does have a delay problem.

so like, if for some reason you nudge your mouse during a long load time, it sits at the edge of your pad, and for whatever reason you have to pick up the mouse to reposition it mid-game because you started on the next map before realizing what happened, and that caused you to make a mistake in game, maybe say during something like rocket arena and you lost that tier of the tourney?

ok, so it's a long shot hypothetical situation, but none the less it is possible, and the problem is reproduceable. when the problem with the pentium 3 1.13GHz coppermine was brought to intel, they pretty much blew it off as a fluke at first but eventually recalled it and did not release another until they fixed the whole P3 coppermine core with the tualatin.

now, i'm not saying this is that kind of a big deal, the mouse works, obviously. but also it is proven that it has a specific, reproduceable problem that their previous gamming mice do not have that effects use of the mouse almost 100% specific to gamming. if logitec put a disclaimer on the box saying "not specifically for gamming" then they could fix the problem outright without having to change the hardware at all. but they won't do that, just like microsoft won't put that disclaimer on their mice which tend to have very poor refresh rates for games when compared to the boomsling or logitec parts, or even microsoft's wired mice.

i think this is a legitimate complaint logitec needs to address purely on the fact that the problem can be reproduced, and it doesn't exist in their previous generation line of the same product.
 
dgb said:
Bullshit it's a sign of too-low sensitivity. You should be able to have the sensitivity at whatever is comfortable to you. What happens when you have multiple monitors and small mouse space?
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You increase the sensitivity or enable mouse acceleration.

I've got a miniscule mousing area: 8 inches wide at maximum. I put my mouse sensitivity up, got used to it in about 5 minutes, and have been happy ever since.

While I'm not disagreeing you should be free to use your own sensitivity settings, Logitech should be free to make their products the way they want. IMO, the MX1000's advantages are ergonomic. It's an extremely comfortable mouse to hold, while using new technology. What most people don't seem to understand is that new technology takes time to perfect. If you have a specific need, such as mousing over dual displays like you mentioned, why are you hopping on the new tech bandwagon instead of getting a cordless optical mouse? Heck, why not use a corded mouse and save yourself the trouble?

It's a flaw in the mouse, and it's sloppy on the part of Logitech that they can't deal with it. It doesn't affect everyone, but it affects enough for it to be a significant proportion of the users.
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I wonder... if there are people who need to pick up their mouse, and they know cordless mice are unreliable when it comes to tracking when being picked up... why are they buying them?
 
I don't have one, I'm just refuting the arguments of all the Logitech fanatics who say that it's not the fault of the mouse, it's the fault of the user. Picking up the mouse is a reasonable and common action, and the MX 1000 can't deal with it. That is the fault of the mouse.

As for people saying turn up the sensitivity (not you Terpfen), I don't like high sensitivity. I would prefer to pick up the mouse than have high sensitivity. The MX 1000 does not give me that option, which is a flaw in the mouse, not a flaw in me.
 
And that's perfectly fine, if you don't like high sensitivity. I agree that the mouse not reliably tracking after being picked up is a problem, but all new technologies have problems. I'm glad someone at least explained the reason why picking up the mouse is important.
 
dgb said:
I don't have one, I'm just refuting the arguments of all the Logitech fanatics who say that it's not the fault of the mouse, it's the fault of the user. Picking up the mouse is a reasonable and common action, and the MX 1000 can't deal with it. That is the fault of the mouse.

As for people saying turn up the sensitivity (not you Terpfen), I don't like high sensitivity. I would prefer to pick up the mouse than have high sensitivity. The MX 1000 does not give me that option, which is a flaw in the mouse, not a flaw in me.
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You can turn up the sensitivity. You can do it through windows.
 
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