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help with 1st build

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shaar

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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Gaming
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
3200$ tax and shipping not included
3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.

U.S Manchester Kentucky
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
GPU ,CPU ,Ram, Case, Motherboard, Psu, Monitor, sd card reader, and cd burner
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
none
6) Will you be overclocking?
going to try
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
27 inch HD HDMI 1980x1080 wanted to try 3d is it any good?
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
buying in 5 days
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.
Dont really know am new to this but i know am going to need sli
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If so, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
win 7 64


Well am new to building computers so i just wanted to see what you guys think of these specs

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
Gpu: 2x Gtx 580
Ram: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
Case : NZXT Phantom
Power supply: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series 1200 watts
Monitor: Acer HN274Hbmiiid Black 27" 3D Full HD HDMI
Cooling: 2x PNY XLR8,one with gpu and gpu cooling and the other with just gpu cooling
Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Green 2Tb
LG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA
Rosewill RCR-IC001 40-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reade

But there is my build so far, going to order it in 5 days But if you guys have a better build in mind just tell me
 
I can't see an SSD listed there... seriously consider that for your OS/games HDD - it makes a very noticeable difference to boot/load times etc.
 
 
shaar said:
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146068

Gpus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133398
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133399

CPu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009300

mother board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157269

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231459

Hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136891

Psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171055


But like i said before i am new to this so help is appreciated
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Several not-so-good choices in that list (either not-so-good performing parts or parts that deliver poor bang for the buck values):

1) The RAM is severely overpriced: Its price is more than double that of the same amount of RAM that we usually recommend for these Sandy Bridge systems. In fact, you can buy 16GB of our "recommended" RAM for less money than what you'd pay for only 8GB total of the RAM you selected. Plus, that RAM is rated at 1.6V at its advertised timings and speed - a bit higher than the maximum DIMM voltage of 1.575V that I'd consider comfortable for the LGA 1155 CPUs.

2) The motherboard that you selected is also severely overpriced, especially for a board that's warrantied for only one year. Other brands of motherboards are warrantied for three years. (And don't trust Newegg's dwarranty description: That info is outdated. According to the ASRock Americas Web site, all of its motherboards are warrantied for only one year.)

3) The GTX 580 is normally way overkill for only 1920x1080 resolution - especially since cards that cost half as much perform almost as fast at that same resolution. And two GTX 580s are way, way overkill for any single monitor regardless of whether it offers its own 3D. In fact, the 3D feature on the monitor only helps certain 3D video content such as 3D Blu-ray movies.

4) Most games do not need the i7-2600K, especially since most games still do not support HyperThreading at all. Get an i5-2500K instead if all that you'll be doing is gaming. The extra threads only help certain apps such as video editing.

5) That Cooler Master PSU is good, but not as good as some other 1200W PSUs for that price. In fact, your planned build does not need anywhere near 1200W on the PSU. Even if you get one GTX 580, you should be perfectly fine with a 650W to 750W PSU. But if you get two GTX 580s as planned, there are better 1200W PSUs than that Cooler Master.

6) The single hard drive that you selected is too slow to be the sole drive in your system. Better to relegate that drive as a simple storage drive, and get yourself a much faster 7200 RPM hard drive for your programs and an SSD for the OS. That WD Green spins at only 5400 RPM - much too slow for an OS drive.
 
@.@ Well do u mind linking me your recommend stuff am so glad i came to forums before buying
 
I concur with E4g1e. I'll save E4gle time and post links:

$220 - Intel Core i5-2500K CPU
$170 - MSI P67A-GD65 Intel P67 ATX Motherboard
$96 - 2 x G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
$200 - Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SSD
$60 - Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$80 - Samsung Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$20 - Samsung SH-S222AB SATA DVD Burner
$140 - NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Full Tower ATX Case
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Total: $986 plus tax and shipping

The SSD/HDD setup is a tad confusing so I'll guide you:
1) Use the SSD as your OS drive as well small applications drives. You can install some games if you want but try to limit it to a few games.
2) Use the 1TB drive for your large applications and game installs as well some data.
3) use the 2TB drive as your data storage. This is where your movies, music, pictures, etc, go.

Now, I left out the GPUs and PSUs because I need to ask you a question: Do you absolutely need that much overkill with GTX 580 SLI? At that 1920x1080 resolution, a single slower GTX 570 or HD 6950 2GB is more than enough. GTX 580 really comes in handy if:
A) You're gaming on three monitors
B) You're gaming at a resolution of 2560x1440 with 3D.
C) You just want it for the e-peen

Simply put, you'll be fine with a single GTX 570 or HD 6950 2GB. If you still want to go overkill, then GTX 570 SLI or HD 6950 2GB Crossfire will be good choice. So let us know what route you want to with:
- GTX 570
- HD 6950 2GB
- GTX 570 SLI
- HD 6950 2GB Crossfire
- GTX 580
- GTX 580 SLI

And from there we'll start specific GPU and PSU recommendations.
 
Well i would still like to go with the sli gtx 580 because i do plan on getting 2 more 27 inch monitors in the future
 
shaar said:
Well maybe 3 to 4 months
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Far too long then. In three to four months, you'll more than likely be able to get faster and cheaper GPUs to handle multiple monitor gaming. Think about the following factors:

Right now your single monitor needs will easily be filled by the $280 HD 6950 2GB, $330 GTX 570 or $340 HD 6970 2GB. A pair of those GTX 580 cards will run you $1120. You're not planning on getting additional monitors that'll justify GTX 580 SLI for another 3-4 months. That means that you're wasting $780 to $840 worth of GPU power for those 3-4 months. In addition, in the next 3-4 months, AMD is releasing newer and faster HD 7xxx series GPUs. Note that the current high-end AMD single GPU, the $340 HD 6970 2GB, isn't that far behind the GTX 580. More than likely the HD 7xxx series will cost roughly the same as the current HD 6xxx series cards while outperforming that GTX 580.

So in other words: Rather than spend $790 that'll just go to waste on a single monitor, save that $790 for two of AMD's next generation video cards. Those two new AMD GPUs will be faster than a GTX 580 SLI.

You see what I'm trying to say?
 
Yea i get what your saying. So a single 570 can run anything maxed out as long as its on a single monitor?

Oh and this might be a little off topic but i want to get a new mouse , head set and keyboard any good recommendations
 
shaar said:
Yea i get what your saying. So a single 570 can run anything maxed out as long as its on a single monitor?
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Yes and at a resolution of 1920x1200 and below. And if it doesn't, you can always get a second GTX 570.
 
Ok now since i have never done this before can u give me some tips on hooking the computer up.
 
shaar said:
Ok now since i have never done this before can u give me some tips on hooking the computer up.
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Look in the stickied "Gen[H]ard FAQ" as there are a ton of links in that FAQ on how to build a PC under the aptly named "PC Building Guides" category.

As for specific parts recommendations:

Get this Intel CPU + GPU combo as it'll save you $20:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.733472

Get this PSU:
$135 - Corsair 850TX V2 850W PSU

It'll be enough for GTX 570 SLI so more than enough for a single GTX 570.
 
Alright ty for all the help i will report back after i have got all the part =3
 
shaar said:
Alright ty for all the help i will report back after i have got all the part =3
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Post a final build list before you buy. This is your first PC build so we want to make sure that you're choosing the right parts.
 
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