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Rexse7en44

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Hey hows it going. ok one of my older computers is not work. Acually lets just say now 2 of the 3 dont f*ck*ng work.... Ok what I need to know is - The computer started doing this about 2-3 days ago. When you shut it down, it wont just boot back up. The first time I had to try and start it about 15 times. The second, over 50, and now the third time (I accidently hit shut down instead of re-start) I have tried for over an hour and a half and it still wont boot. It has no problems restarting when it gets going, its just when you shut down completly. I am guessing it may have something to do with the hard drive, due to the fact that when it doesn't start up, there is no spinning noise coming from the h.d. just the CPU fan. Also when you try and start it and it doesn't post, you have to pull the power plug to get it to turn off. It doesn't work to hold down the power button. Help me and help me fast before I end up with 3 piles of computers in my living room!!! Thanks

Scott
 
Rexse7en44 said:
Hey hows it going. ok one of my older computers is not work. Acually lets just say now 2 of the 3 dont f*ck*ng work.... Ok what I need to know is - The computer started doing this about 2-3 days ago. When you shut it down, it wont just boot back up. The first time I had to try and start it about 15 times. The second, over 50, and now the third time (I accidently hit shut down instead of re-start) I have tried for over an hour and a half and it still wont boot. It has no problems restarting when it gets going, its just when you shut down completly. I am guessing it may have something to do with the hard drive, due to the fact that when it doesn't start up, there is no spinning noise coming from the h.d. just the CPU fan. Also when you try and start it and it doesn't post, you have to pull the power plug to get it to turn off. It doesn't work to hold down the power button. Help me and help me fast before I end up with 3 piles of computers in my living room!!! Thanks

Scott
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When it doesnt boot, what exactly happens? Does it not turn on at all? Come to life for a few seconds then shut off? Come on and not post? I had this problem twice, it would come on for a second or two, then shut off. Once I found there was a screw on the bottem of my case, toucing my board and shorting it out. THankfully it wasnt damaaged, but removing the screw fixed the problem, so check for any loose stuff. Another time all it took was a CMOS reset and it was jim dandy agian. I would also test your PSU, it could be going. I think its your motherboard tho when you described the power swtich not turning it off....

What I would try is this. (UNPLUG YOUR PSU 1ST) Leave all your drives plugged in, but unplug the ATX power from your board (and the P4 connector if you have to use one) , then find hte 3rd and 4th pin (black and green) on hte ATX connector, and put some kind of metal (speaker wire and paperclips are what ive used) briding the two wires, just stick one end of the wire in each hole. Now you can plug your PSU back into the wall (dont plug andthing back into the motehrbaord) and it should come on. If your PSU stays on fine, eliminates that. Next, your drives should all come on. If your CD-Roms light up and your drives come on (not sure if they will spin or not since ther not actually reading data). This elminates PSU and possably hard drives.
 
and I dont think its the hard drives if it wont turn on at all. If it was hard drives you could still get into your BIOS, and if there was somethign wrong with them they may be making odd noises, and either not registered by your bios or you get errors loading windows (or cant load it at all). I have never heard of hard drives causing your system to not turn on. Thats gotta be power supply or motherboard
 
Ok, I tried bridging the green and black wires. Nothing happened... So Is that going to mean its the power supply? Also to answer your other question, when I turn it on, it gets power but it doesn't post at all. It will stay on for as long as I let it, but it just sits there. Thanks again!
 
well I just tried another power supply that I know works, and it still didn't work... Its starting to look worse and worse all the time... :(
 
Rexse7en44 said:
Ok, I tried bridging the green and black wires. Nothing happened... So Is that going to mean its the power supply? Also to answer your other question, when I turn it on, it gets power but it doesn't post at all. It will stay on for as long as I let it, but it just sits there. Thanks again!
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ah not PSU then. Your thing with the PSU could just mean you werent touching metal on both, which happens expecially with flimsy (sp?) wires....I am seriously banking on a motherboard issue. Does it beep at all? If your board has a reset jumper, use it, otherwise take the battery out for about a minute and put it back in, see if that helps. Otherwise, are you dealing with onboard video or an AGP/PCI card? Got any other cards to test in this machine?
 
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