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Help me to setup a new Borg network

leSLIe

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My aunt have asked me to help her configure her network at her work, she has a small business. She was gonna hire a "professional" to do this work, but i convinced her that i could do the job, with only one condition: that she allows me to borg her PCs :)
and she agreed. I'll be working "pro bono" or should i say "pro folding" :p

Currently she has 14 PC, between P4 3GHz and C2D E4500, so it's not too shabby.
The current network configuration is as follows.

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two "independant" workgroups, but i could see that the workgroups can connect themselfs using the Internet Modem, something that i don't want to happen, so one of reasons of this reconfiguration is to have more security and flexibility, getting rid of that awful Workgroup configuration and start using a Domain configuration. A server is obviously needed, it has to have a Windows OS, i can't use Linux, nobody there knows how to use Linux, so i was thinking in using Windows Server 2003 or 2008. It'll be the first time that i use either of those Server OS, so i'm practically a newbie in installing Windows Server, let alone configure it properly.

Now the tricky part, if i want to borg all the PCs i would have to give them Internet access, but as you can see in the above diagram, only 4 PCs will have Internet access, and even those PCs are gonna have restriccions like not having access to Youtube or Facebook for example.

The networking idea is to have pretty much the same configuration, but with more security, for example: the machines in Workgroup 1 have to be able to share files between each other, same with Workgroup 2, and occasionally a file transfer between workgroups, I also have to connect all 9 the PCs in Workgroup 2, the router has only 8 ports.

So apparently all the PCs have to have internet access for the folding stuff, so how could this be done? and could this be done with only one server? Are there good tutorials in how to setup a domain server? What do i need to buy?

regarding the server, what hardware do i need? could i just put together a Pentium 4 to work as a server?
 
You really have 2 options on borging these machines. First, give them internet access. Second, do a whole lot of sneakernetting, and if you don't have physical access to them regularly, thats not a viable option.

Also keep in mind, the second you lay a finger on anything in the office, its ALL your responsibility from that point on. No matter what breaks, or when it breaks, its going to be your fault and your phone is going to ring, no matter what time of day. I'm speaking from experience on this one. :D


 
Sneakernetting is out of the question, what i was thinking is to give all the PCs internet access, but with lots of restrictions, they would only have access for Standford server, in fact the users that currently don't have internet access wouldn't know that they have internet access although limited :D I'm not sure how to do this yet :(

Yeah, i can imagine them calling me when something malfunction, well, the sacrifices i make for folding ;)
 
proxy server?

or put all the computers on one network with internet access and use a m0n0wall router, and then only allow the IP addresses of the computers you want to have net access?
 
or put all the computers on one network with internet access and use a m0n0wall router, and then only allow the IP addresses of the computers you want to have net access?

hmm... so what u are saying is to have my domain server with monowall installed?
 
hmm... so what u are saying is to have my domain server with monowall installed?

Yes and every computer could access the internet. this is where you can lock down with a "white list" of allowed sites to go, which would be Stanford's ones only. You can manage access by computer easily.

 
http://www.untangle.com/

http://www.untangle.com/

I like Untangle. It is a linux based firewall, spam filter, and more. It could do what Xilikon says about M0n0wall. I was not able to get m0n0wall running on my boxen, but I succeeded with Untangle. I really like it. It was easy to set up, easy to use, and it just plain works.

The Open Source Network Gateway
The best open source projects, integrated and made easier for spam blocking, web filtering, remote access and more
 
Endian Firewall is what I use personnally and it can do what you need. I never succeded using Untangle (I want a firewall which can be run under VMWare and still work).

 
Endian Firewall is what I use personnally and it can do what you need. I never succeded using Untangle (I want a firewall which can be run under VMWare and still work).


So untangle did not work inside of a VM?
 
So untangle did not work inside of a VM?

They have a VM version of Untangle but I never managed to see it from the network. They said they are having issues with the 3COM 3C905B cards, which is what I have :(
 
They have a VM version of Untangle but I never managed to see it from the network. They said they are having issues with the 3COM 3C905B cards, which is what I have :(

also i think Untangle doesn't support QoS, or at least it didn't in the first version.
besides i need a Windows only network :(
 
That's the perfect time to use Linux. That way people can't screw with it and mess it up. :D

You'd be amazed at how people that don't know what they're doing can mess up a linux box.

You can't make things fool-proof because fools are so ingenious. :D

 
That's the perfect time to use Linux. That way people can't screw with it and mess it up. :D


Yeah, I agree :D

If you have people that aren't familiar with Linux (any flavor) and don't have the time to learn Linux (very easy IMO :p) then it seems to me to be the perfect time to use an operating system like Linux.

Unfortunately for newbs there are many people out in computer land that think they're windose gurus and have a tendency to screw up a windose boxen. (they read articles on the "Net", their in laws give them insider trade secrets about windose, etc), so if they don't know Linux, there's less chance they'll screw it up :confused:

Of course you can use Linux if the boxen is not using specific programs that require Windows. Personally I think Linux is making great strides in the computer OS arena, IMHO they just aren't up to snuff with Windows or Mac yet. IMO Linux needs more support from the vendors of computer programs and they're programmers ;)

It's also a great OS for folding 64 bit because I've read many times it has less overhead than Windows or Mac.

Remember these are only my personal opinions, so please don't get your shorts in a twist if they don't agree with your opinions or knowledge.

Oh yeah leSLIe, that "The great tragedy of life is not that men perish, but that they cease to fold." is one "dynamite" sayin'. :D


 
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