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Help me optimize vista.
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MittWaffen
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Sigh, thanks for the links but isnt giving me a sound solution. Alot of which i already tried.
So much for vista compatible drivers, the audio subsystem is borked. From what ive read is a possible solution is for me to recode 'something' to make the infinite loop stop and to kill the audio thread apparently it keeps all streams audio threads even long after im done using them.
So much for vista compatible drivers, the audio subsystem is borked. From what ive read is a possible solution is for me to recode 'something' to make the infinite loop stop and to kill the audio thread apparently it keeps all streams audio threads even long after im done using them.
If that's "par for the course" then why in the hell don't my Creative drivers do the same for the exact same soundcard on the exact same OS?
You seriously can not find the drivers? I can't directly link you to it, but here is the starting page
http://support.creative.com/welcome.aspx
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If that's "par for the course" then why in the hell don't my Creative drivers do the same for the exact same soundcard on the exact same OS?
You seriously can not find the drivers? I can't directly link you to it, but here is the starting page
http://support.creative.com/welcome.aspx
No, i have them, you miss read what i was saying. How vista compatible drivers seems to have more problems even when their WHQL.
Ive found the solution you need to disable all sound card effects, basically waste everything i bought the card for, however audiodg.exe is now 17mb< .
For the above poster, all the drivers do it but you need to be using certain audio apps to trigger the bugs. Such as ventrilo and recording.
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If that's "par for the course" then why in the hell don't my Creative drivers do the same for the exact same soundcard on the exact same OS?
You seriously can not find the drivers? I can't directly link you to it, but here is the starting page
http://support.creative.com/welcome.aspx
Creative drivers are notoriously buggy. You may not have any problems, so good for you. But it says a lot when someone not working for Creative has to fix their drivers for them because they can't seem to get it right. Of course Creative gets their collective panties in a wad and goes after the guy over it.
Oh yes, let's all go 'optimize' our operating systems, since we know more about the operating system and how to optimize it than the teams of career software engineers who designed and developed it.
You're better off if you just leave it alone, like Joe Average likes to say.
You're better off if you just leave it alone, like Joe Average likes to say.
Dude, didn't you know you if you modify your GPU driver and run defrag every hour you can totally squeeze an extra 2 fps. I will totally frag more newbs!1!!
UAC sux XP 4 LYFE!!!1Don't believe everything you read on forums. 90% of the people bitchin and claiming crap are doing stupid things like testing and coming to conclusions with wildly overclocked systems and other things like running Nvidia motherboards. If there were problems with the WHQL drivers, then ALL of us would have the symptoms.
I don't understand what you are saying, but you DO want to use the WHQL drivers. I have been using them since I installed Vx64 mid last year with zero ill effects. I also have 3 clan mates with the same results on various other platforms... AMD box, Intel-nVidia box, and my Intel-Intel box.
Good luck.
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Don't believe that everything you read on the internet comes from reading the internet. I have personal experience with several of Creatives SBLive / PCIxxx drivers that made me swear them off. Their drivers for Win9x and Win2k/XP plain sucked. And from what I've been seeing all throughout the lives of their Audigy and X-fi series, they haven't gotten any better.
But tell me this, Mr No Problems, why is the OP and several others with Creative cards experiencing these huge memory leaks in audiodg.exe. If it was a problem with the audio system in Vista, then it'd also be happening with Realtek and other sound devices.
So, you have never had a X-Fi card nor have you had one running on Vista, but you have been seeing it though.
Oh, and stop being childish and calling people names, unless of course you are a child.
And seriously, what's it you anyways, he already has the card. You are too late, the devil already has his money.
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So, you have never had a X-Fi card nor have you had one running on Vista, but you have been seeing it though.
Oh, and stop being childish and calling people names, unless of course you are a child.
And seriously, what's it you anyways, he already has the card. You are too late, the devil already has his money.
Where did I ever say Creative was the devil? They've got great hardware, they just can't write drivers worth a shit. He wanted to know what was causing his OS to be sluggish. He traced it to audiodg.exe consuming huge quantities of RAM. If this was a normal behavior for Vista, then don't you think every Vista user out there would be having this issue? It has to do with Creative's driver leaving memory allocated when processing the sound stream. This is a driver issue plain and simple, something Creative is notorious for. They had problems in 2000-2002, and they still have problems today.
It's the theme of your posts...over and over. How about you offer the OP some help and go start your own rant thread on CL.
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Seems this is the only thread where I've ever talked about Creative's DRIVERS. You jumped all over me about how great Creative is and that your experience is so perfect that no one else could ever possibly have a problem.
And I did provide a solution, in the form of two links. In those links it says to remove processing effects and the problem goes away... hmm. Short of getting rid of the card or finding a version of the driver that doesn't have this problem (someone said the MS supplied driver works) , that's all he's going to be able to do.
I could have sworn that you trashed a thread a few weeks ago. I either owe you an apology or the thread was lost in the database crash. My apologies.
To the OP's issue...
I don't think he is installing the drivers off the CL website. Correct me if I am wrong, but the enhancements you are speaking of turning off are in the Sound control panel applet in the speakers properties. The 3rd tab called enhancemets, correct?
If the drivers for the X-Fi are installed, that control panel applet is completely different. The tabs are the following:
General-Tone-Custom-Levels-Sound Blaster-Advanced
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As I've quoted a friend from IRC years past before, I'll quote him again:
"how about a 100 dollar soundcard that is 'evil bs' spelled backwards"
He was spot on accurate then, and he's still spot on accurate now.
"Drivers... it's always the god damned drivers..."
"how about a 100 dollar soundcard that is 'evil bs' spelled backwards"
He was spot on accurate then, and he's still spot on accurate now.
"Drivers... it's always the god damned drivers..."
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To my memory, I haven't ever trashed any threads about CL.. certainly not in the last few weeks.
I don't know what exactly to turn off or where to do it and I don't have the card. From the sites I've been reading, they say that disabling CMSS and environmental effects makes the problem go away. If he doesn't have the official Creative drivers, then I don't know what to tell him.
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it helps on the systems with 1GB of ram.
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Not in my experience. Even his XP guides never helped, even on systems with 128-256MB of RAM.
Disabling services that aren't doing anything and are paged to the hard drive are not going to inprove performance. It will almost always cause problems when applications that use those services can't get to them because they're disabled.
I'm sorry, I don't know what got into me.
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1GB static page file (1GB minimum, 1GB maximum) on each physical hard drive you have (if more than one). If you have two or more in some RAID setup, this doesn't apply.
As Windows 7 is even better at SuperFetch tasks, with 6GB of RAM there's effectively no point in using ReadyBoost. Yes, it will help to a small degree, but you can probably find better uses for a USB stick.
As Windows 7 is even better at SuperFetch tasks, with 6GB of RAM there's effectively no point in using ReadyBoost. Yes, it will help to a small degree, but you can probably find better uses for a USB stick.
1GB static page file (1GB minimum, 1GB maximum) on each physical hard drive you have (if more than one). If you have two or more in some RAID setup, this doesn't apply.
As Windows 7 is even better at SuperFetch tasks, with 6GB of RAM there's effectively no point in using ReadyBoost. Yes, it will help to a small degree, but you can probably find better uses for a USB stick.
thanks.
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In the case of my issues (sound card drivers) all the WHQL drivers cause more bad than good. Thats why moded drivers are usually what people like us need (Dank, PAX etc). Its sad that a company cant fix something like this, thats why Asus sound cards are doing so well, from what ive seen and heard the drivers are stable, sound quality is top notch. With X-fi ive had install issues, and a whole world of pain. Some people get the same issues, others dont. But I think theres alot more to the picture that just people having the same hardware and having different results. Software might be another issue with drivers, bios settings etc.
After finding a solution to this, vista is running as it should and ive had zero slow down. However I know that I will never buy another Creative sound card again.
I still have these issues
- Grounding electrostatic leaking (when i move my mouse you can hear buzzing.)
- No EAX without using a program that doesn't work as it should. (This causes a memory leak when running it; see last on the list to understand the leak i had)
- Poping and snaps with the sound when in game.
- A whole world of pain with a memory leak because of their drivers. (Fixed, but at a loss of sound card features which makes the card even less functional)
I emailed tech support and they tell me to RMA the card. Funny thing is i've done it three times and they don't give a rats ass about my problem; they keep feeding me cookie cutter answers.
They are a terrible company, look at Dan K last year. You think they would of let him keep moding drivers if thousands of people didn't revolt?
I highly recommend everyone who reads this to stop supporting them, help out decent companies and let the bad apples rot.
What are you refering to as the WHQL drivers, the drivers that ship with Vista? If you are using those or the ones from Windows Updates, you are missing alot of things that go with the drivers.
Did you try the drivers from their website? They use a unified driver package that includes all versions of XP and Vista.
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Yeah, its the ones off their website. WHQL certified.
I just use the PAX drivers, seem to have less issues with settings resetting and better sound quality.
I just use the PAX drivers, seem to have less issues with settings resetting and better sound quality.
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Love to see those bench's proving that..
1GB static page file (1GB minimum, 1GB maximum) on each physical hard drive you have (if more than one). If you have two or more in some RAID setup, this doesn't apply.
As Windows 7 is even better at SuperFetch tasks, with 6GB of RAM there's effectively no point in using ReadyBoost. Yes, it will help to a small degree, but you can probably find better uses for a USB stick.
I do manually set mine if you have seperate PHYSICAL harddrives, not partitions, but either way, Windows will always use the page file on the fastest drive or with least activity i recall hearing, but by default i beleive it only sets a page file on C?
ReadyBoost will only kick in with an external USB device doesnt it, i had found on my uncle laptop it actually SLOWED down performance, everytime i opened IE, it was scannin the USB drive.. is like piss off! lets go user a USB drive that can hit maybe a max of 25MB/s? vs a harddrive that can do 60MB +?