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Help me get a watercooling setup!
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ShockTech said:
I think it's insane dropping that kind of cash on a watercooling setup, only because I always thought of watercooling to be a way of keeping a PC quiet and hitting high OC's, in which case phase change is better (and around $500-$600). In my very strong opinion, dropping that kind of money on a watercooling system is doing it wrong, not because of what you're buying, but because of what you aren't (phase change). Now if you were to spend around $300-$400 that'd be a little different (I still think it's a large budget at $350).
$35 for a water additive? Maybe an $8 bottle, but not $35.
$120 for a video card block? (that may or may not fit your next card!!!) if you want get the most bang for your cooling buck, I'd go with a peltier (it'd be less than or equal to $120, and would actually get you some decent frequency increases) otherwise the difference between a $40 block with ramsinks or a $120 block is probably only going to be 10-20 mhz at the most (more likely 5mhz, and even then it could take a volt mod to really take advantage of the watercooling)
$39 for a chipset block that won't get you ANY better performance and will only HURT your flow rates? Go with an oversized heatsink and let it just cool passive (you really don't need a fan with a good sized heatsink)
The tygon tubing, snap clamps, etc. could be had for much less at a plumbing/hardware local store, but I understand the one stop shopping idea.
I think the pump is a little overkill, and the 1060 might be louder/larger. The key is matching the pump to your needs, as too little flow will hurt your temps, but extra won't do a darn thing.
If you really want to do it right, please understand that there are other options in your pricerange, as I don't think the premium your willing to pay is going to get you much of anything, especially when you throw in the other options for $500+
I know it's tempting (especially online) to simply throw money at the project, but if you take the time to do it right the satisfaction on your end will be much higher. My first setup was a maze block, ehiem pump, a 172 watt peltier, and a lab chiller I got on ebay for around $200 shipped (a real steal). My next setup will be a RBX, ehiem pump, and lab chiller. I can't see spending $500+ on a setup that can only keep your stuff as cool as ambient temps. That kind of premium is reserved for chilling in my book (I know by now it's a broken record)
the peltier (when running a current through it one side gets hot, the other gets cold, cool the hot side with a waterblock, copper cold plate sandwiches the cold side and cools the CPU/GPU to sub ambient temps) was just an example of something that'd cost more than a $40 vga block and actually give you some bang for the buck. Honestly if you still want to drop that kind of cash, why not invest in winbond memory (if you haven't already) and watercool that with a super high VDIMM? Innovatek makes ram waterblocks FYI
If you want to spend that much than maybe you might consider the Swiftech H20-120-T Thermoelectric Cooling kit. I'm a water and peltier cooling newbie too. That's why I've been considering this kit that comes with everything and cools below ambient temps. It's just not cheap at $550. Search google for plenty of reviews on the kit.
mikelz85 said:
oo, well i'll consider that for the gfx card then tho im a cheapo type person, or just use a swiftech or dangerden "$40" gpu block
as for that ram stuff, i have winbond and i had to take the ocz ddr booster outta my machine cuz it was gttin too hot over 3.1 volts so that ram cooling sounds attractive to me all of a sudden
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i pelt cool right now, and i have looked at that kit before.StarWolf said:
my key problem with it is that to pelt cool you GPU in addition to your CPU, you would need another rad to keep optimal coolant temps with a reasonable noise level.
if you want to pelt cool, start a thread here or over in extreme cooling, and i will advise you as best i am able. there was recently a thread where i talked with a guy using the monster dominator pro pelt cooler. http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=901041
just remember that there are risks to pelt cooling, and if you choose to do it, you have to do it right from start to finish. pelts can make fire just as easily as they can make ice.
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DD maze 4-1 GPU block or swiftech MCW50-T are out of the box VGA peltier solutions.el rolio said:
the thing is: they are really optimized for the previous generation cards and are unlikely to be able to keep current gen cards much belp ambient as they are sold.
i have read people saying that they swapped in a more powerfull pelt than the stock 80 watt unit, and that got them really good results, but i just don't see how it could fit without heay modification.
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i went straight from air to pelt. bad idea. i cooked some hardware and nearly started a house fire before i got things right.ShockTech said:
the stuff that i put up should offer excellent performance at a reasonable price. add 10 feet of 1/2 inch tubing of your choice and a res or a T line and it should be pretty much good to go.
a 4 L jug of distilled or deionized water from some local auto store and some zerex coolant additive for the coolant willl offer good, prooven cooling performance.
i like to use metal gear clamps from the local hardware store instead of those little plastic things, because they offer a more secure seal.