Heads rolling at Infinity Ward

Ragenowski1 said:
I mis-wrote what I meant to say.....What I meant to say there was I hope they don't find another job that would allow them to do to another franchise the same thing they did to the CoD franchise.

I'm not hoping that they never find another job....just that the next job they find doesn't involve fucking up another formerly excellent franchise.
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I think these guys were some of the founders of IW, so it'd be pretty hard for them to mess up their own game. I think pressures from Activision made the game shittier.

Oh, and Bobby Kotick is the devil.
 
I hope they sue and get more money out of it, I hope they learn their lesson and if they decide to start over again that they remember the price of selling out, which can be steep in some cases
 
Infinity Ward wanted a new IP/futuristic shooter. Activision wants more Call of Duty games. Infinity Ward hates that Treyarch is allowed to make games using the Call of Duty name. Activision wants a new CoD game every year, IW prefers every two years.
 
I love all the "fans" saying they're glad the heads of IW are out of jobs, hoping that they never find another job again, they ruined the series, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam. Modern Warfare was amazing and tey rooined it with MW2 THIS IS BS IM PISSED I GOT MY MOM TO BUY ME IT CAUSE I COULDVE GOTTEN HER TO GET BC2 INSTED

You're 15. Shut the hell up, you're making the rest of the reasonable adults on the forum look like they're on your level by association.
 
finalgt said:
I love all the "fans" saying they're glad the heads of IW are out of jobs, hoping that they never find another job again, they ruined the series, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam. Modern Warfare was amazing and tey rooined it with MW2 THIS IS BS IM PISSED I GOT MY MOM TO BUY ME IT CAUSE I COULDVE GOTTEN HER TO GET BC2 INSTED

You're 15. Shut the hell up, you're making the rest of the reasonable adults on the forum look like they're on your level by association.
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mad?
 
finalgt said:
I love all the "fans" saying they're glad the heads of IW are out of jobs, hoping that they never find another job again, they ruined the series, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam. Modern Warfare was amazing and tey rooined it with MW2 THIS IS BS IM PISSED I GOT MY MOM TO BUY ME IT CAUSE I COULDVE GOTTEN HER TO GET BC2 INSTED

You're 15. Shut the hell up, you're making the rest of the reasonable adults on the forum look like they're on your level by association.
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This man speaks truth.

If those fired just got greedy, then they got what's coming to them but I hope they land on their feet nonetheless. However, if the rumors are true about them getting no royalties from MW2, and they were justified in their actions, I hope they sue Activision to kingdom come.
 
LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
This man speaks truth.

If those fired just got greedy, then they got what's coming to them but I hope they land on their feet nonetheless. However, if the rumors are true about them getting no royalties from MW2, and they were justified in their actions, I hope they sue Activision to kingdom come.
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that's where all the intrigue lies, if they indeed didn't see any of those royalties, then I wonder what will happen from there, sounds like there will be a lot of legal proceedings, and I wonder if they will be compensated.

I wonder how Activision is weaseling it's way out of paying all that.

In Activision's SEC filings, they said that they expect legal proceedings to occur and legal counsel has advised them that it will have a minimal impact on Activision.

Makes me wonder how much compensation Vince Zampella and Jason West are owed, as well as the rest of the dev team.

I hope they just make another studio and self-publish, surely they have enough money to do that by now.
 
I loved Medal of Honor: Allied Assult, COD2 and COD4 and (mostly) enjoy MW2. So I hope that what ever game the original developers make next is made with lessons learned from everything MW2 brought about.
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darksonic said:
Infinity Ward wanted a new IP/futuristic shooter. Activision wants more Call of Duty games. Infinity Ward hates that Treyarch is allowed to make games using the Call of Duty name. Activision wants a new CoD game every year, IW prefers every two years.
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This is it, pretty much.

I'm hoping the rest of the core staff of IW resign and form their own studio, free from Activision.
 
Devs work for large publisher. Publisher wants to milk franchise. Devs butt heads with company execs, leave to form own studio. Studio makes blockbuster, gets swallowed up by publisher. Rinse and repeat.

As long as game studios are at the mercy of their publisher's dollars, and publishers are only concerned with short term gains, this cycle will never end.
 
And COD fails to be the cash cow it once was a la Guitar Hero in 3.. 2.. 1..
 
Like to see what the new IW company makes, and if the next game has Dedi's on PC. That'll tell us alot about why they did what they did with MW2.
 
MW2 was really their only bad game. A shame they ever signed up with Activision, I hope they find more work or fix this whole fucked up situation. Even if they do start their own studio they will have lost the Call of Duty/Modern Warfare franchise and in the end that's what people will buy. They don't care about the game, just the name slapped onto it. Without them Modern Warfare 3 will make millions regardless of quality and they will have to start all over.
 
I heard they are wanting to make a CoD subscription based game

I LOL at that thought, i will never buy into that

Also, this is making me want to boycott ALL Activision Blizzard games, including SC 2 and Diablo 3

neither which will be sweet enough to tempt me into buying because I know my dollars will end up in Bobby Kotick's pocket

no thanks!
 
SixtyWattMan said:
MW2 was really their only bad game. A shame they ever signed up with Activision, I hope they find more work or fix this whole fucked up situation. Even if they do start their own studio they will have lost the Call of Duty/Modern Warfare franchise and in the end that's what people will buy. They don't care about the game, just the name slapped onto it. Without them Modern Warfare 3 will make millions regardless of quality and they will have to start all over.
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You could see they were on the way out when you played CoD4, regardless of who bought them out. The two games are basically identical as far as design/gameplay decisions go.
 
Creepingdeath1977 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but Infinity Ward is a wholly owned subsidiary of Activision and if that's the case they own the ip and their asses which would explain how they could come in and kick the top tiers out the front door.
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no they only CONTRACTED with Activision theres rumors they IW was going to cut and run and take the Call of Duty name with them
 
AVT said:
And COD fails to be the cash cow it once was a la Guitar Hero in 3.. 2.. 1..
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Won't happen, you're underestimating the average idiot consumer. 'Hay guise, it sez Call of Duty, I buyz it.'
 
Elios said:
no they only CONTRACTED with Activision theres rumors they IW was going to cut and run and take the Call of Duty name with them
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If they were merely contracted and not owned by Activation, how can they fire two top tier employees from a company they don't even own?
 
zsec said:
Won't happen, you're underestimating the average idiot consumer. 'Hay guise, it sez Call of Duty, I buyz it.'
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Not over the long term, especially considering what I predict has already happened before in the form of Guitar Hero & Rock Band.

"So I herd teh new cod sucks"
"Yeah dude saem i'm'ma go buy Halo instead"
 
RamonGTP said:
If they were merely contracted and not owned by Activation, how can they fire two top tier employees from a company they don't even own?
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becouse terms of the contract state Activision owns IW till the contract is up at which point IW can renew or cut and run WHICH btw comes up this year :rolleyes:

so what looks to have happend is this
1. IW pressered in to making MW2 as it is but didnt like it
2. IW doesnt like the CoD name being used by another studio any more
3. Activision sees IWs contract expires in be for it can get next CoD game out the door
4.IW plans to cut and run when contract expires taking CoD name with them leaving Activions fucked on the next game
5. Activison needs a way to keep this from happening so asks IW to lay off 1/2 its devs
6. IW only has 75 people working for them and is loyal to its devs and tells Activiosn to fuck off
7. Activison uses this as breach of contract and orders in the goon squad to remove EVERY ONE from the building
8. (My theory here) Activion fires every one put in place management loyal to Activison and re-news contract keeps CoD name and runs it in the the ground with new games every year a la Guitar Hero

so the issue is here Activision doesnt want IW to run knows they will
made a bullshit excuse why they are removing IW's CEOs
but now the issue is every one the works there like IW and the CEO's if i worked there i know what i would do WALK OUT

WITH EVERY THING I COULD TAKE WITH ME
and every one else which is why the goons were called in not just remove the CEOs it was to keep every one else from walking and taking as much IP with them as they could
i would still bet they every will lose there jobs befor this is over the devs working there wont stand for this im sure
 
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No need to roll your eyes, it was a legitimate question. I wasn't trying to imply you were wrong.
 
RamonGTP said:
No need to roll your eyes, it was a legitimate question. I wasn't trying to imply you were wrong.
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that wasnt at you it was at the fact this happend SO close to when IWs contract with them comes up and just after MW2 imo Activison has been planing this for a wile knowing IW would leave
 
No more Call of Duty from Infinity Ward (only DLC for MW2)...

Activision unveils department focused on expanding franchise, confirms rumors Bay Area studio working on COD "action-adventure" title for 2011; massively multiplayer licensing in negotiations; Infinity Ward apparently only involved in MW2 expansions.
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Elios said:
that wasnt at you it was at the fact this happend SO close to when IWs contract with them comes up and just after MW2 imo Activison has been planing this for a wile knowing IW would leave
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I wouldn't doubt it was planned. From what I've read so far, screwing over studio's is nothing new to Activision. Maybe in the future more studio's will think twice before "partnering" up with Activision, this being so high profile and all.
 
RamonGTP said:
I wouldn't doubt it was planned. From what I've read so far, screwing over studio's is nothing new to Activision. Maybe in the future more studio's will think twice before "partnering" up with Activision, this being so high profile and all.
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im sure id even bet some presser has been put on Blizzerd look at SC2 no LAN play
this will only hurt them in the long run if they dont fire every one at IW they will walk
i know i would
what this is; is a hostile take over the most literal sense
 
I just hope the truth comes out. I get the feeling Activision isnt going to look good.
 
Spewn said:
Yes I can. Hooray for opinions. Avatar was sub-par, I'll never watch Titanic, and the iPhone is a turd.
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I'm sure the movie studio heads that produced Avatar and Titanic, and Apple will cry themselves to sleep at night while counting the billions of dollars those movies and product have brought them since now knowing that you did not like their products.
 
Pantalaimon said:
I'm sure the movie studio heads that produced Avatar and Titanic, and Apple will cry themselves to sleep at night while counting the billions of dollars those movies and product have brought them since now knowing that you did not like their products.
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Good, because that's totally why I don't like them.
 
kuyaglen said:
I loved Medal of Honor: Allied Assult, COD2 and COD4 and (mostly) enjoy MW2. So I hope that what ever game the original developers make next is made with lessons learned from everything MW2 brought about.
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+1. Allied Assault and CoD 4 are two of my favorite games.
 
I think they got what they deserved. Consolizing mw2. Then not listening to anyone at all from the forums. They started to get involved with activision also. What a dumb move. Any time you get bought by some publisher you won't be able to do anything you want and you will be time constrained. I think its better if they all split up and create a new company. I bet the next cod won't even have mouse and keyboard support. lol
 
Conker said:
I think they got what they deserved. Consolizing mw2. Then not listening to anyone at all from the forums. They started to get involved with activision also. What a dumb move. Any time you get bought by some publisher you won't be able to do anything you want and you will be time constrained. I think its better if they all split up and create a new company. I bet the next cod won't even have mouse and keyboard support. lol
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see thats the thing i think IW didnt want to go that way but did becouse of pressure from Activison
which started this whole mess IW was going to ditch Activision as soon as there contract was up and take the CoD name with them
 
Seeing that Activision has its hands in both Infinity Ward's and Blizzard's cookie jar I'm thinking they are a growing cancer for pc gaming.
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