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This is my first C2D and I'm kinda confused with all the new motherboard BIOS terms....

I know how to OC, but can anyone tell me which settings I really have to pay attention to?

There are many things I don't know:

1. Where are the memory timings?
2. Do I disable the HD def sound in bios? is it the same as the onboard realtek 888 audio?
3. Generally what are the best settings/options for OCing?

Right now I'm at 420x8 on my e6420 with 2x1GB Crucial ballistix ddr1066...(running prime95 tests)
 
Thanks Danny,

Yep almost identical bios and any difference is minor (meaning it probally would not have to do with overclocking)

If you disable the realtech audio it will kill the onboard sound. The realtech audio "sound manager" is where you can enable/disable HD sound. It is on the driver CD and gets installed after the OS install when you load the motherboard drivers, but I would also check the Gigabyte site for the latest.

CTRL + F1 when in the main bios screen (it will appear nothing happened) but now if you go into the M.I.T sub- menu your memory timings are available.

Link should tell you all you need to know. After initial setup its all in the M.I.T. menu.

Standard FSB overclocking procedure will work. Find the top end of your cpu, back off a bit, and then manulipulate the cpu mulitplier, FSB speed and memory mulitplier to run your memory as fast as you can. (i.e CPU MHz >>> Memory MHz for application performance)

Since the "standard" 1:1 memory ratio runs the memory at 2 x the FSB Gigabyte just calls the 1:1 ratio a memory muitiplier of 2.0, the same with the other multipliers, it simplifies the math, if the memory multiplier is set to 2.5 then your memory speed is 2.5 x the FSB. Simple.
 
Question about temps/vcore/mem timings.

Running 400x8 right now. I have all default settings in my bios with the exception of 1:1 FSB.

I just opened up CPU-z and it says my memory timings are 4-4-4-12 @ 400mhz even though my bios memory timings are all default meaning it should be 5-5-5-18?

Secondly, in SpeedFan, what is temp1, temp2, temp3? Is Temp 1 case/ambient, and Temp 2 NB?

Thirdly, core0/core1 are obviously my CPU temps and they are always the same. Yet the Vcore1 is 1.34V and Vcore2 is 1.86V? WTF?
 
Ignore voltage readings; the newer ITF8718F (or at least that's the one my DS2R has) isn't really 100% with Speedfan. At least they figured out the fan speeds...

Besides, you should be reading vCore with a multimeter (yeah, right. >.>).

Temperatures you'll have to find out yourself by loading the computer. You can use EasyTune5 to compare temperatures and save you some trouble.

I just opened up CPU-z and it says my memory timings are 4-4-4-12 @ 400mhz even though my bios memory timings are all default meaning it should be 5-5-5-18?
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Are you sure you didn't leave them with SPD/EPP? You have to set the timings manually.
 
Leman said:
Ignore voltage readings; the newer ITF8718F (or at least that's the one my DS2R has) isn't really 100% with Speedfan. At least they figured out the fan speeds...

Besides, you should be reading vCore with a multimeter (yeah, right. >.>).

Temperatures you'll have to find out yourself by loading the computer. You can use EasyTune5 to compare temperatures and save you some trouble.
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So EasyTune5 is the best temp/core monitor? I need a program (like MBM5) that will load up as a service and show me my temps in my active icons bar.

Are you sure you didn't leave them with SPD/EPP? You have to set the timings manually.
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What is SPD/EPP? I have never heard of those terms until I got my Ballistix 2x1 DDR1066. :p

I know I'm on stock right now but CPU-z shows DDR2, Dual, 2GB, 400mhz, 1:1, 4-4-4-12-2T in the Memory Tab.

In the SPD tab, it shows:

Slot #2
1024 MBytes, Max Bandwidth PC2-6400 (400Mhz) (WTF, that's what it's set at, but it ain't the max)..

Timings Table
JEDEC #1
333Mhz, 4-5-5-15-20 1.8V
JEDEC #2
400Mhz, 5-5-5-18-23, 1.8V
EPP #1
400Mhz, 4-4-4-12-24-2T, 2.2V
EPP #2
533Mhz, 5-5-5-15-30-2T, 2.2V
 
mtx said:
So EasyTune5 is the best temp/core monitor? I need a program (like MBM5) that will load up as a service and show me my temps in my active icons bar.
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No, I just use it to compare temperatures with Speedfan to identify which one's which.


What is SPD/EPP? I have never heard of those terms until I got my Ballistix 2x1 DDR1066. :p
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Serial Presence Detect; stores information about what timings a chip should use at any given speed. (well, not any)
Enhanced Performance Profiles; I believe they're only available on NVIDIA chipsets. They're like SPD, but configure your memory to a greater extent and optimize it.
I know I'm on stock right now but CPU-z shows DDR2, Dual, 2GB, 400mhz, 1:1, 4-4-4-12-2T in the Memory Tab.
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If you're running 1:1, then the memory is at DDR2-840. If you haven't set the timings manually (changing it from [SPD] to [Manual] in the M.I.T. menu), it'll run SPD values. Thus, 4-4-4-12.
 
Serial Presence Detect; stores information about what timings a chip should use at any given speed. (well, not any)
Enhanced Performance Profiles; I believe they're only available on NVIDIA chipsets. They're like SPD, but configure your memory to a greater extent and optimize it.
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More marketing ploys I see.

If you're running 1:1, then the memory is at DDR2-840. If you haven't set the timings manually (changing it from [SPD] to [Manual] in the M.I.T. menu), it'll run SPD values. Thus, 4-4-4-12.
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But my memory is DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 or 18.

It shouldn't be running at 4-4-4-12.
 
mtx said:
More marketing ploys I see.



But my memory is DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 or 18.

It shouldn't be running at 4-4-4-12.
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Actually it is one of the better performance enhancements that has value as sub-timings are adjusted to optimal settings depending on speed. Ideal for users that do not know anything about memory timings.

Unless it is running a lot faster than 800MHz yes it should. Intel chipset boards can use EPP too and unless you manually put in the 4 4 4 12 that is what has to be happening.

Interestingly more than the basic timings are adjusted. The sub-timings are optimized too. SpdTool is a neat utility to see what all is actually in there.
EPP #1
400Mhz, 4-4-4-12-24-2T, 2.2V

The bios automatically looked at the FSB speed, the profiles stored on the memory stick and selected the one that would give you the best performance.
 
BillParrish said:
Actually it is one of the better performance enhancements that has value as sub-timings are adjusted to optimal settings depending on speed. Ideal for users that do not know anything about memory timings.

Unless it is running a lot faster than 800MHz yes it should. Intel chipset boards can use EPP too and unless you manually put in the 4 4 4 12 that is what has to be happening.

Interestingly more than the basic timings are adjusted. The sub-timings are optimized too. SpdTool is a neat utility to see what all is actually in there.
EPP #1
400Mhz, 4-4-4-12-24-2T, 2.2V

The bios automatically looked at the FSB speed, the profiles stored on the memory stick and selected the one that would give you the best performance.
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Bios never upped the voltage though I don't think.
 
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