GTX 1650ti thread - Another AMD threat

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  1. Nightfire

    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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    It looks like Nvidia could be releasing the GTX 1650 and GTX 1650ti on April 22nd.

    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6540...1650-reportedly-launching-april-22/index.html

    While the GTX 1650 looks to be a 1050ti class product using 128 bit GDDR5, the 1650ti could be a real threat to the RX 570 if it uses 128 bit GDDR6.

    This lines up perfect with what was leaked here:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/250924/...in-six-variants-based-on-memory-size-and-type

    And discussed here:
    https://hardforum.com/threads/some-1660-ti-models-could-have-3gb-of-vram.1977323

    So what's left - A 3 GB card in GDDR5 and GDDR6. The 3 GB GDDR5 card will most certainly be a 96 bit GTX 1630 that will replace the 1030. The 3 GB GDDR6 was thought to be a 192 bit GTX 1660 variant to replace the 1060 3GB, but I feel like the new 1650ti will do this just fine.

    More likely, it will be a 3GB 96 bit GDDR6 card that will be closer to $100 and be an effective GTX 1050 replacement, perhaps called a GTX 1630ti.
     
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    Interesting. Seems like Nvidia is giving a lot of choices here, maybe too many, but we'll see where these cards land.
     
  3. Nightfire

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    They are aggressively going after AMD's midrange stack. The 1660ti forced an RX590 price drop overnight, the 1660 went directly for the RX580, and now the 1650ti could make it a hat-trick if it competes with the RX570.
     
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    Now that the GTX 1650 specs are confirmed, we see that it is pretty much a 2/3rds GTX 1660 down the board to include price:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gtx-1650-release-date-price-specs,39094.html

    It would be interesting if they did the same thing with the GTX 1650ti compared to the 1660ti. That would give it around 1000 shader cores, 128 bit GDDR6 and a $185 price point. That should be enough to edge the RX580 and get very close to the GTX 1660 in performance as that card us often bandwidth bottlenecked.
     
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    NV just continues to execute like a well oiled machine.
     
  6. vegeta535

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    I don't see Nvidia lower end stuff a threat to AMD. AMD has better cards for cheaper in the sub $200 range and give Nvidia a round for their money in the $2-300 range.
     
  7. DooKey

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    Whenever NV competes with AMD at a particular performance bracket they kill AMD. Yes, NV lower end stuff is a threat to AMD.
     
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  8. Nightfire

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    That could quickly change. In any case, nVidia does not have to be performance competitive in order to be sales competitive. We have already seen this with the GTX 1050ti.
     
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    Did you see the Gainward and Palit 1650's on that site? They're total junk. $149, maybe $179, for a video card with 1 HDMI and 1 DVI (no adaptive sync at all) and what looks like leftover Intel box coolers as a cooling solution.
     
  10. cybereality

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    Yeah, definitely a POS. Why would they use DVI instead of DisplayPort. Odd choice.

    But I guess you can't be too picky for $150...
     
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    At this point and time the free games have ended and not many are buying now … all of AMD cards came with games and at $149 the RX 570 8Gb came with them for the price = NV just could not compete with that and still can't as that market AMD just ended it when the free games ended as to rain on Nvidia's little party .
     
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    A $150 1650 is higher than the launch price of the 1050 Ti. Really really really sad when a $30 graphics card from 6 years ago has more video outputs than a $150 card today. Least they could do is put a DP on there so people can use Gsync/Freesync.
     
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  13. vegeta535

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    I guess cause they believe people who would buy a 1650 are more then likely to have old crappy monitors?
     
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    Support is another issue. I never owned nVidia till I realized I wanted to use tensorflow and AMD did not support it well (for no fault of AMD).
     
  15. Nightfire

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    Well I guess the 1650ti may still come out, along with a 1660 'Super' which is suppose to be 1660ti vram config with 1660 core count.

    The 1650ti is still said to be 128 bit GDDR5 which will make it a failure imho.
     
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    Is this still going to be a card that doesn’t need external power? (Like the 1050ti). I’m assuming that’s why it’s so neutered.
     
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    I second this. A budget card will likely be used with a budget monitor.
     
  18. dany man

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    75w TDP so there is a good chance it will not need external power. waiting for a low profile version :)
     
  19. Nightfire

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    It looks to be that way with the 75 watt tdp, but that would have been just as easy with GDDR6. Seems to be a big jump in bandwidthe from the 1650ti 128 bit 8 gbps to the 1660 super 192 bit 14 gbps or about 2.5x.