GTX 1650ti thread - Another AMD threat

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At 2 years old now, Wolfenstein 2 looks to be one of the only gaming scenarios where 4 GB vram is an issues at this performance level while able to get 60 fps+:
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Greedfall looks like it falls short at 1080p as well as it should be closer to 60 fps:

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In both scenarios, adjusting from ultra or uber textures to even very high should put the 1650 Super back within 10% of the 1660.
 

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So, anyone think we will see a GTX 1630 (3 gb 96 bit gddr5) and a GTX 1630 Super (3 gb 96 bit gddr6) yet?
 

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Yet another 1650 variant looks to be coming:

This looks to be a GDDR6 variant of the 1650 which should give performance closer to the 1650 Super.

Why is MSI doing this? Perhaps they are building a card for my original vision of the 1650 Super - a low profile version. They could be building it for system integrators, but it would be nice for those of us that have an sff case.

A 1650 with GDDR6 would be the fastest sff card by a good margin.
 

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They (MSI) probably has an overstock of the original 1650 GPUs to use up. They need to offer some incentive to buyers, relative to the 1650 Super, or there won't be a way for them to use up those chips.
 

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Iterative low performance upgrades....wwoooohhhooo.
If it's a low profile card, it will be a nice performance boost for those of us that are running a 1050ti or lower.

I typically 5+ year old games on 1080 high such as gta 5. This would allow me to run some newer games on high or the older ones at 1440p.
 
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If it's a low profile card, it will be a nice performance boost for those of us that are running a 1050ti or lower.

I typically 5+ year old games on 1080 high such as gta 5. This would allow me to run some newer games on high or the older ones at 1440p.
You are right of course and I do support smaller cards but the last time I was excited about a new card was when the Zotac mini 1050 dropped for nearly $100. I bought three or four and upgraded a few of my friends and family but that was almost 4 years ago. Since then I haven’t really seen anything at quite so low a price that was worth anything at all.
 

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Decent performance and LP is always welcome. The 1050ti has been king of the LP hill for WAAAAY too long. I seriously don't understand why 3rd party doesn't make a 2060 LP, they could charge a ton and it would still sell like hotcakes... because demand.
 

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Decent performance and LP is always welcome. The 1050ti has been king of the LP hill for WAAAAY too long. I seriously don't understand why 3rd party doesn't make a 2060 LP, they could charge a ton and it would still sell like hotcakes... because demand.
Yep, the 1650 was barely an upgrade.
It's very hard to make an LP card layout with more than a 128 bit bus. The 1650 Super had too many cores as LP cards are generally PCIE powered only.

To be clear, nothing confirmed on this being Low Profile, but it makes sense considering MSI was one of the few 1050ti LP manufactures.

Rough guess, this would be around 50% faster than a 1050ti or around RX570 levels.
 

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Are they finally going to release a fully enabled 1650 chip? Otherwise, this is pointless to attach GDDR6 to it
 

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Are they finally going to release a fully enabled 1650 chip? Otherwise, this is pointless to attach GDDR6 to it
Actually the product list clearly says LP, and since the 1650 pushes the power envelope of an LP card already, I doubt you will get more cores.

What it doesn't state is that it will be 4 GB, but instead could be 3 GB and possibly 6 GB cards by use of a 96 bit bus. With 14GB/s memory, it would still have more bandwidth than the 1650 and be cheaper to produce.

It would be similar to what they did with the 1050, but in this case you should actually have more bandwidth.
 
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